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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Kodidad » Feb 8th, 2019, 5:01 pm

Just stating what I hear from where I've been with my perceived percentage.
Who's that Sheer guy anyways? Yawn, he puts me to sleep.
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Ka-El » Feb 8th, 2019, 5:28 pm

Pete Podoski wrote: Well, it was just a few years ago that a complete imbecile suckered you and enough others with "I'm not Harper."

Yes, well Harper had to go, and there may be enough reason to say Trudeau has to go by the fall as well. However, dimples wasn’t chosen for his intelligence (please don’t tell me he was the smartest to choose from out of that group). After the electorate turfed Harper to the curb it was more like the Cons were looking for someone as cute as Shiny Pony, and dimples is kinda cute in his own way. Like watching a child pretending to be grown-up. Just don’t let him drive the car.
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Queen K » Feb 8th, 2019, 5:30 pm

Ka-El wrote:
Pete Podoski wrote: Well, it was just a few years ago that a complete imbecile suckered you and enough others with "I'm not Harper."

Yes, well Harper had to go, and there may be enough reason to say Trudeau has to go by the fall as well. However, dimples wasn’t chosen for his intelligence (please don’t tell me he was the smartest to choose from out of that group). After the electorate turfed Harper to the curb it was more like the Cons were looking for someone as cute as Shiny Pony, and dimples is kinda cute in his own way. Like watching a child pretending to be grown-up. Just don’t let him drive the car.


Okay, maybe bumper cars.
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Gone_Fishin » Feb 10th, 2019, 3:30 pm

Does anyone know why Trudeau is such close friends with child abusers?

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Even with the new taxes, the platform projects another four years of deficits if the Liberals are re-elected on Oct. 21 — $27.4 billion next year, falling to $21 billion by the fourth year of the mandate.

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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby the truth » Feb 10th, 2019, 3:44 pm

show me who jt's friends are and i will show you who jt is :200:
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby The Green Barbarian » Feb 10th, 2019, 5:00 pm

Gone_Fishin wrote:Does anyone know why Trudeau is such close friends with child abusers?
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but...but...there was a guy that was into child porn in Harper's band....so...there!!!
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Queen K » Feb 10th, 2019, 9:01 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:
Gone_Fishin wrote:Does anyone know why Trudeau is such close friends with child abusers?
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but...but...there was a guy that was into child porn in Harper's band....so...there!!!


Can we agree that deviancy is not a partisan issue?
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Merry » Feb 11th, 2019, 2:39 pm

Trudeau is now facing his fifth ethics probe since taking office
The Globe reported that the Prime Minister’s Office pressured Wilson-Raybould to cut a deal with SNC-Lavalin that would allow the company to avoid going to trial over allegations it paid millions in bribes to secure government contracts in Libya.

The Globe story claims that Wilson-Raybould resisted pressure to intervene with the Public Prosecution Service’s decision to proceed with a trial. A few months after that decision, she was moved from the attorney general’s office to become the new minister of veterans affairs.

Trudeau denies the allegations but Dion has decided they’re worth investigating.

“I have reason to believe that a possible contravention of section 9 may have occurred,” Dion wrote in a letter to NDP MPs Nathan Cullen and Charlie Angus, who filed the complaint.

“Section 9 prohibits a public office holder from seeking to influence a decision of another person so as to improperly further another person’s private interests.

“As a result, I have initiated an examination under subsection 45(1), and have so informed Mr. Trudeau.”

https://ipolitics.ca/2019/02/11/trudeau ... c-lavalin/
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Gone_Fishin » Feb 11th, 2019, 6:37 pm

Just keep telling people they don't pay any taxes. I'm sure, eventually, that someone will believe you. Someone is stupid enough to believe you weren't trying to fix a court case for your rich friends at SNC, after all.


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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby floppi » Feb 11th, 2019, 10:56 pm

Merry wrote:Trudeau is now facing his fifth ethics probe since taking office
The Globe reported that the Prime Minister’s Office pressured Wilson-Raybould to cut a deal with SNC-Lavalin that would allow the company to avoid going to trial over allegations it paid millions in bribes to secure government contracts in Libya.

The Globe story claims that Wilson-Raybould resisted pressure to intervene with the Public Prosecution Service’s decision to proceed with a trial. A few months after that decision, she was moved from the attorney general’s office to become the new minister of veterans affairs.

Trudeau denies the allegations but Dion has decided they’re worth investigating.

“I have reason to believe that a possible contravention of section 9 may have occurred,” Dion wrote in a letter to NDP MPs Nathan Cullen and Charlie Angus, who filed the complaint.

“Section 9 prohibits a public office holder from seeking to influence a decision of another person so as to improperly further another person’s private interests.

“As a result, I have initiated an examination under subsection 45(1), and have so informed Mr. Trudeau.”

https://ipolitics.ca/2019/02/11/trudeau ... c-lavalin/


That's it Merry? 5 ethics probes in 4 years? Hmmm.....maybe a good time for one of those links. If all theses things happened to JT.....I'm sure u will be going nuts by now

https://pressprogress.ca/101_scandalous ... nt_moments

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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Merry » Feb 11th, 2019, 11:54 pm

Floppi, I’m sure you’re familiar with the old adage that”two wrongs don’t make one right”.

How on earth you think digging up past alleged misdeeds of someone who is no longer in politics, and who hasn’t been for years, somehow justifies Trudeau’s many ethical breaches, mystifies me. What on earth does one have to do with the other?
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby hobbyguy » Feb 12th, 2019, 12:39 am

We actually don't know if JT did anything wrong until the ethics probe is done.

I actually have more problem with the underlying "remediation" legislation than the "points in the game" scandal. There is a case for the legislation: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-why-canada-needs-deferred-prosecution-agreements-in-our-courtrooms/

However, I personally don't buy it. Nor do I like how all parties allowed this to slip through pretty much under the radar.
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby burnedatstake » Feb 12th, 2019, 1:07 am

Merry wrote:Floppi, I’m sure you’re familiar with the old adage that”two wrongs don’t make one right”.

How on earth you think digging up past alleged misdeeds of someone who is no longer in politics, and who hasn’t been for years, somehow justifies Trudeau’s many ethical breaches, mystifies me. What on earth does one have to do with the other?


it illustrates that you will always go back to voting right. even when they do bad things. so where is the moral median? how can people ask how and why if they do so themselves?
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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby jimmy4321 » Feb 12th, 2019, 5:30 am

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Re: All things Trudeau

Postby Ka-El » Feb 12th, 2019, 8:29 am

jimmy4321 wrote: Cause sometimes occasionally you got to flush that toilet twice, the Cons still stink of the Harper era with his mini-me at the helm (Dimples).

There is likely good reason Bernier split from the Cons to start his own party, and it has absolutely nothing to do with any alleged malfeasance on the part of the Liberals. I’ve always argued zero tolerance from the electorate (“one and you’re done”) when we find our politicians engaging in unethical, even illegal activity, and that would include these Liberals should any of these accusations bear fruit. But you’re right jimmy; nothing redemptive will be accomplished if we just continue moving back and forth between two self-serving and corrupt parties. Even though I do not agree with everything Bernier stands for he would at least be a choice for a real shake-up in Canadian politics – although he has his own ethical lapses to account for. Singh? May? Good grief what a mess! Perhaps if the electorate had always been willing to put aside their partisan loyalties and hold our governments to account (“one and you’re done”) we might not be in this mess today.
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