Trudeau vs Scheer

[OKkayak]

Are Lieberals specially trained to deflect, lie and then blame others for their misdeeds?

[Catsumi]

JT waffled and put it off as long as possible, so 60 shipping containers, well fermented under six years of Manila sun are now sailing our way. (Cbc news source)

Will they be dumped off near Vancouver Island, or will federal or provincial authorities accept the gift gracefully or will there be war, as threatened by Duerte?

What will be the ultimate resting place of all those adult diapers?

In any case I suspect there will be a war between Horgan and JT concerning the costs of dealing with the trash, either by fishing it out of the water or by burying/incinceration.
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Added: CBC news has updated their report, now saying sailing date is end of June and yes, destination is Vancouver where spokesman stated that they were prepared and that the trash will be sorted within TWO days of arrival. Wow, Vcr has a very efficient trash sort/burn group to handle that massive pile.

So, JT must have okayed the repatriation of garbage and avoided war with the Phillipines. But, no photo ops? No press conference? Doesn't sound normal.

[Ka-El]

Are Lieberals specially trained to deflect, lie and then blame others for their misdeeds?

It's not just the Liberals. Seems to be Poli Sci 101
Whether we elect dimples and the Cons, or we re-elect Trudeau and the Liberals. Either way

[Merry]

Saying the Opposition MIGHT be just as bad, is not a good reason to re-elect a Government we KNOW has lied to us.

Time for a change.

[Verum]

Saying the Opposition MIGHT be just as bad, is not a good reason to re-elect a Government we KNOW has lied to us.

Time for a change.

Yes, and since the opposition have a terrible record too, maybe it's time for a real change

[Merry]

Saying the Opposition MIGHT be just as bad, is not a good reason to re-elect a Government we KNOW has lied to us.

Time for a change.

Yes, and since the opposition have a terrible record too, maybe it's time for a real change

Maybe you're right, but the Conservatives are our only realistic option this time around. A vote for any of the other Parties is a wasted vote at the moment.

Hopefully, in the future, we'll get some better choices. But for this election, Scheer's our best bet.

[Hurtlander]

There’s a bunch of these interesting and informative clips from a professional body language expert....
Essentially Trudeau is a bald faced liar.

[Catsumi]

Time to crack a cold one, kick iff your shoes, lean back and have a moment with Rex. Crocodile tears is the subject


Rex Murphy:A PM that apologizes for our past sins should also celebrate our good

Our Prime Minister has shown a capacity, surpassing eagerness and tending towards habit, to provide an autopsy on all the sins of Canada perpetrated before his reign (which appears to be the definitional limit), and having unearthed and highlighted them, to make public apology on behalf of every other Canadian for the flaws, mischiefs, perceived crimes and follies of our ancestors.

Many commend him for this, even in the absence of a counter-effort to research the perhaps even greater good and more numerous acts of virtue that all the generations before his own entered into the national record, or gathered without record — the great mass of everyday decencies that lie outside written history. Combined, these did so much to forward the building what many of us, under no impulsion of mere chauvinism, believe is one of the finest countries in this 21st-century world.

Trudeau does not execute public gratitude in any comparable frequency, for all the great and good things accomplished by Canadians past. This is at least curious in the light of his marked inclination to wander the country speaking in the accents of atonement.

It is implicit in any act of apology for those faults and deeds not your own that the contrition is vicarious. It is a bystander’s regret. It is both theoretical and logical that all apologies, of either substance or effect, must come from the mouths of actual perpetrators. As a trivial example, if your loud sister slaps a neighbour’s child over the head, it will not appease the neighbour or comfort the child if some visitor from down the street, no way involved in the transaction, shows up at the wailing urchin’s door to apologize to the parents and child.

Whatever is good in the Canadian way, in the elusive but calm spaces of the Canadian temperament, is our 'true heritage'

Vicarious apology is either sentimental or ersatz, a performance ritual at best, an approval-seeking gesture at its most mannered.The quality of such a performance is (not surprisingly) most elegantly stated by the greatest wit and poser of the 19th century, Oscar Wilde. Wilde, always clever, rarely sincere, said that that after listening to the music of Chopin, he felt “as if I had been weeping over sins that I had never committed, and mourning over tragedies that were not my own.” There it is; tears for sins the weeper has not committed. Vicarious contrition is a costume halo.

Whereas, acknowledging previous greatness, either of character, person or deed, whether of affection, valour or intelligence, has an entirely different quality. Here there is nothing vicarious and second-hand. Saluting past worth summons virtue as present example.

It partakes of tribute and it born of grateful humility.

It is a needful scaling of our present against the past, by which we acknowledge how much of our current achievements and comforts, all that we are in arts and sciences, indeed our mode of being in this country as it is today, are received benefits, the work of hands and heads other than our own, of all Canadians who were previous to our modern time. It is a way of saying that whatever is best in Canadian life, what most we love — and most Canadians and those to immigrate to Canada obviously love very much of it — is inheritance.


This idea can be found in the words of a troublesome but nonetheless a (fitfully) great poet, Ezra Pound:

What thou lovest well remains, the rest is dross
What thou lov’st well shall not be reft from thee
What thou lov’st well is thy true heritage

Whatever is good in the Canadian way, in the elusive but calm spaces of the Canadian temperament, is our “true heritage.” It has in part been fashioned by greet leaders, writers, statesmen, captains and inventors. In more unmeasurable ways it is the product of the workers, housewives, farmers neighbours, townsman and country woman, in the accumulated transactions of everyday citizens over the generations — the smiles, hands stretched in consolation, a family supper, a neighbour’s morning greeting — the fabric of all our diurnal social being, woven over the thousands of passing days we have been a country. Some we have seen being built; some emerged with osmotic, coral-reef gradualness from near-random effect. There is greatness in small things multiplied by time and left to find its own pattern. But whatever it is that is good in us follows Pound’s prescription: it is our true heritage.

Occasionally vesting ourselves in garments of sackcloth and ashes for various moments of apology has its merit. There is nothing adverse in reiterating that the country has failed over time in some of its tumults and torments. As is natural with every evolving society, some periods laboured under a darkness and ignorance that has thankfully been dissipated.But darkness and ignorance is not a full remission for faults and crimes past. But all was not dark; nor everyone ignorant — there was always a tendency towards the light. How else did we get here?

Under the cascade of things done wrong, may we not ask were there not things done well, were there not acts of decency, kindliness and exceptional charity? Were there not those opposed to the mores of the day, leaders who wished better than was done and whose ideas outlived the days of prejudice and misery? If there were not, where would we find the Canada of today? So let us celebrate the good and kind with the same tenor of zeal we seem to be apologizing for when, in accident or by design, we wandered or fell from our better ways.

It would be well, too, not to take too much of a sense of superiority for our “now” to their “then.” Had we lived under the same past spirit there is no easy conclusion that we would have acted differently than those we now so suffusingly deplore. We are, in many cases better simply because it is “now.” Our now will have its own sins, count on it.

There were always more good than the bad, more better than worse, otherwise … ask again, how did we get here?

National Post

[the truth]

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#257730 to bad jt can not spend all this money in canada to start treating the women here with respect

[WalterWhite]

"Vicarious contrition is a costume halo."

- worn with all the pomp and splendor he can muster.

Bravo Rex.

[Ka-El]

But for this election, Scheer's our best bet.

Our choices just keep getting worse.

[Merry]

But for this election, Scheer's our best bet.

Our choices just keep getting worse.

That's as maybe, but you've said yourself that Trudeau is less than stellar. So what other choice do we have if we want to replace him?

Scheer is our only hope if Trudeau is to go. No other candidate has a hope in hell of beating him.

[Verum]

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Our choices just keep getting worse.

That's as maybe, but you've said yourself that Trudeau is less than stellar. So what other choice do we have if we want to replace him?

Scheer is our only hope if Trudeau is to go. No other candidate has a hope in hell of beating him.

In this case the remedy is worse than the disease.

[floppi]

I second that!!

[Ka-El]

Scheer is our only hope if Trudeau is to go. No other candidate has a hope in hell of beating him.

I think I might vote NDP. Whether it is dimples or Trudeau, the best we can hope for is a minority government.