Capitalism is being undermined by left socialism

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miss_sterious wrote:Shakespeare courses were once required for a degree, but now have been made optional at most universities. Only around ten percent have it as required now.


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savvybusinessman wrote: This claim is complete nonsense. The vast majority of English literature programs focus on Shakespeare and many other white male writers.

True, and English courses are required lower level courses in most four year degrees, including Business Administration.
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The whole world is trying to battle socialism at the moment. Look at Venezuela. Even Sweden is starting to wake up.
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It's clear we need a better education system :smt045
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Ka-El wrote:It's clear we need a better education system :smt045


Ain't that truth. Do these people even realize the Socialist mecca they are currently living in? I love Socialism. We need more of it. Yay for doing things together as a country! Boooo hissss to every one for themselves Capitalism.

Yes I realise most currently successful countries have a good mix of the two. No I don't think that will be a good system in the future.
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^^This is genuinely interesting.

I'm curious as to where someone who enjoys living in a single family dwelling and owning more than a single family vehicle draws the appropriate "equity" line for just the right amount of socialism.
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rustled wrote:I'm curious as to where someone who enjoys living in a single family dwelling and owning more than a single family vehicle draws the appropriate "equity" line for just the right amount of socialism.

It's the amount of socialism required to keep the unsustainable system of capitalism rolling along.
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Ka-El wrote:
rustled wrote:I'm curious as to where someone who enjoys living in a single family dwelling and owning more than a single family vehicle draws the appropriate "equity" line for just the right amount of socialism.

It's the amount of socialism required to keep the unsustainable system of capitalism rolling along.

That's vague enough to comfort anyone who has more of anything than anyone else.

Seriously, Ka-El, I am curious as to how much JLives feels she would want her own family to give up to achieve the right amount of socialism, particularly since she wants us to do away with international borders. The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples' money, and by global standards JLives is among the wealthy.

Has she considered the implications of applying her theories, and where that would leave her family? I doubt it. If she has, I'd like to know where she would draw the line.
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rustled wrote:...
Seriously, Ka-El, I am curious as to how much JLives feels she would want her own family to give up to achieve the right amount of socialism, particularly since she wants us to do away with international borders. The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples' money, and by global standards JLives is among the wealthy.

Has she considered the implications of applying her theories, and where that would leave her family? I doubt it. If she has, I'd like to know where she would draw the line.

If you lived in a communist country, would you not take advantage of any benefits it brought you, or would you instead refuse such and demand only the set of benefits you might receive in a capitalist country? Or, for example, do you refuse to use public healthcare because you despise socialism?

Secondly, looking at the economics, since we cannot assume an increase or decrease in economic output, the best approach would be to assume everyone gets our GDP split equally among workers, which is around $110,000 each (roughly $1.95 trillion among about 18 million workers). For most people this is a massive increase in income. For a very small percent of the population, this is a decrease. Obviously, this is a massively over-simplified approach, but even in our relatively equitable society (compared with the US), the wealth is massively skewed towards a very small number of people.
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Look again, Verum. I'm not at all suggesting she should not enjoy what she has worked for and what has been made available to her through benefit of birth in a relatively wealthy country. (Surely you did not mean to put words in my mouth.)

I have asked JLives where she, as a person who does NOT believe in international borders, enjoys a relatively wealthy life by global standards, and IS a champion of socialism, would draw the line.
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Verum wrote:If you lived in a communist country, would you not take advantage of any benefits it brought you,


yes all those benefits, like a several-years long vacation at a labour camp in Siberia. Oh what benefits.
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JLives wrote:
Yes I realise most currently successful countries have a good mix of the two. No I don't think that will be a good system in the future.


so you agree then that there shouldn't be a mix, and that socialism should be gradually phased out? Interesting.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:
Verum wrote:If you lived in a communist country, would you not take advantage of any benefits it brought you,


yes all those benefits, like a several-years long vacation at a labour camp in Siberia. Oh what benefits.

I never knew you were into such masochism. Anyway, that's really more of a totalitarian or authoritarian regime kind of behaviour. Sort of like the way that the terrible wrongs committed by darling of the West, Agusto Pinochet during his reign of terror in Chile aren't really due to the economic system he employed, but rather the type of leadership employed.

ETA: Before someone gets the creative notion that I'm actually arguing for communism or socialism, or the overthrow of capitalism, I'm not. If anything, I'm arguing for the overthrow of authoritarianism and totalitarianism.
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Verum wrote:I never knew you were into such masochism. .


I don't know what this means, but I'll file it under "stupid" like most of your posts.
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The Green Barbarian wrote:
Verum wrote:I never knew you were into such masochism. .


I don't know what this means, but I'll file it under "stupid" like most of your posts.

It doesn't surprise me that you don't understand what it means:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=masochism
Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it stupid or wrong, just beyond your comprehension.
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