Special Gun rights for Muslims.

[the truth]

well jt let in over 100 trained isis canadians back into canada so yes it is possible for and isis to get a pal or rpal in canada https://globalnews.ca/news/4205480/cana ... -fighters/

[FreeRights]

I think you are missing something. WHY do we have photo ID???

It is very simple so we know it is you. I could lend you my ID without photo to as you are my height and eye color matched yours. You might be prohibited from possessing a firearm.

Your logic is way out there, the purpose of photo ID is just that, recognition. I'd be fine if it was fingerprint instead of photo, then at the very least we know who the licence is cleared for is that person.

As for my reference of ISIS do you believe for a moment someone linked to that group would be able to obtain a PAL never mind a RPAL?

That was the purpose, a group of persons who would never be able to acquire any firearm legally in Canada if they were known associated to that group. That was my point, and the religion that I reference is one who is veiled as in the video if you missed it. I'm not certain about the males of that religious group.

Again the purpose of photo ID is to avoid swapping ID to those who do not qualify to possess.

Can you give me an example where passing off someone else's firearms license as your own would work?

[Brass Monkey]

well jt let in over 100 trained isis canadians back into canada so yes it is possible for and isis to get a pal or rpal in canada https://globalnews.ca/news/4205480/cana ... -fighters/

JT didn’t let them in, their right to come back into Canada as Canadian citizens is protected by the Canadian constitution, not Trudeau.

[Ken7]

Can you give me an example where passing off someone else's firearms license as your own would work?

Are you serious? Why do we use photo ID? Think about it just for a minute.

IF you were prohibited from possessing and could NOT obtain a PAL or RPAL you could use your brothers if there was no photo.

Think about it for a bit I can't believe someone would ask that after what was posted prior to.

[FreeRights]

Are you serious? Why do we use photo ID? Think about it just for a minute.

IF you were prohibited from possessing and could NOT obtain a PAL or RPAL you could use your brothers if there was no photo.

Think about it for a bit I can't believe someone would ask that after what was posted prior to.

So if theres no photo on your firearms license, do you think anyone thats checking would look at it and be in their way? A firearms license without a photo would not act as government issued photo identification, so like buying cigarettes or alcohol, you would need to validate it with an official document or a piece of government issued photo identification.

I asked for a specific example and didn't recieve one. Are you implying that people would view such a license at face value and not validate it? Do you have an example when such a license wasn't validated?

[GordonH]

Are you serious? Why do we use photo ID? Think about it just for a minute.

IF you were prohibited from possessing and could NOT obtain a PAL or RPAL you could use your brothers if there was no photo.

Think about it for a bit I can't believe someone would ask that after what was posted prior to.

So if theres no photo on your firearms license, do you think anyone thats checking would look at it and be in their way? A firearms license without a photo would not act as government issued photo identification, so like buying cigarettes or alcohol, you would need to validate it with an official document or a piece of government issued photo identification.

I asked for a specific example and didn't recieve one. Are you implying that people would view such a license at face value and not validate it? Do you have an example when such a license wasn't validated?

So the most common photo ID issued in this country is D/L next would be passports.
If these individuals don't want their photo taken for religious reason on a firearm licence then they sure as hell won't get a photo for there D/L or passport (no photo no D/L or passport).

So they don't have any type of photo ID

[ninetyninepct]

impo no photo then no licence either for a firearm or driving a vehicle in this country, from sea to sea to sea.

Don't like it, to damn bad.

The same with the Citizenship Oath. It used to demand that the applicant is SEEN saying the words. Staff used to walk up and down the rows of applicants, listening to and watching them say the words of the Oath. Ignorant Canadian Politicians pandered to a self-proclaimed sharia zealot by allowing her(?) to have a personal session, in effect dumping the standards.

If her (?) so-called religion prevented her (?) from becoming a Canadian citizen, then tough crap. Not our problem. Not having to provide a photo ID, even on a passport basically turns the Canadian passport into expensive butt-wipe.

[Ken7]

So if theres no photo on your firearms license, do you think anyone thats checking would look at it and be in their way? A firearms license without a photo would not act as government issued photo identification, so like buying cigarettes or alcohol, you would need to validate it with an official document or a piece of government issued photo identification.

I asked for a specific example and didn't recieve one. Are you implying that people would view such a license at face value and not validate it? Do you have an example when such a license wasn't validated?

You missed it totally. IT is a legal PAL or RPAL, they issue them as there is a section which applies for the exemption of having a photo on the PAL or RPAL.

Watch the video link I provided.

IF it is a legal PAL or RPAL you can posses or purchase a weapon. Now if you can't get one, what stops me from lending you mine so you can carry or purchase.?

You truly are missing it.

[Brass Monkey]

So if theres no photo on your firearms license, do you think anyone thats checking would look at it and be in their way? A firearms license without a photo would not act as government issued photo identification, so like buying cigarettes or alcohol, you would need to validate it with an official document or a piece of government issued photo identification.

I asked for a specific example and didn't recieve one. Are you implying that people would view such a license at face value and not validate it? Do you have an example when such a license wasn't validated?

You missed it totally. IT is a legal PAL or RPAL, they issue them as there is a section which applies for the exemption of having a photo on the PAL or RPAL.

Watch the video link I provided.

IF it is a legal PAL or RPAL you can posses or purchase a weapon. Now if you can't get one, what stops me from lending you mine so you can carry or purchase.?

You truly are missing it.

Legal ramifications are a deterrent, we are all pretty sure that upon seeing a gun license with no photo that a secondary piece will be demanded whether its RCMP or a gun shop. This really is a non-issue, this particular exemption was put in place to accommodate Hutterite/Mennonite gun owners years ago. Leave it to botox face faith goldy to spin something minuscule into what she calls a national issue and to make it about muslims to reinforce her shady campaign.

[Ken7]

Legal ramifications are a deterrent, we are all pretty sure that upon seeing a gun license with no photo that a secondary piece will be demanded whether its RCMP or a gun shop. This really is a non-issue, this particular exemption was put in place to accommodate Hutterite/Mennonite gun owners years ago. Leave it to botox face faith goldy to spin something minuscule into what she calls a national issue and to make it about muslims to reinforce her shady campaign.

By law if you watch the video there is a exemption.

Phone the Feds and tell them you have someone without a photo on their RPAL who wishes to purchase your handgun. See if they say it is ok.

A friend of mine worked with the Canadian Firearms Program Section and he says that is the law. Watch the video it sights the section of exemption.

Section 14(2) of the Firearms Licences Regulations, is the exemption due to Religion. Quite clearly stated if you read it.

Was that not enough for some to see there is LAW that says its all ok.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/cont/index-eng.htm

[Ken7]

Photographs
14 (1) For the purposes of these Regulations, a photograph of an applicant must be in colour or in black and white and must

(a) show a full front-view of the applicant’s head and shoulders and have a plain background;

(b) have a view of the applicant’s head that is at least 30 mm (1.375 inches) in length;

(c) show the applicant’s face unobscured by sunglasses or any other object; and

(d) be signed on the back by the person who, in accordance with paragraph 3(1)(b), 8(b) or 9(1)(b) as the case may be, signs a statement in the application confirming that the photograph accurately identifies the applicant, together with both that person's and the applicant's name printed legibly on the back.

(2) An application that is made by an individual who, for religious reasons, cannot be photographed must be accompanied by

(a) a declaration, signed by the applicant, stating that the applicant cannot, for religious reasons, be photographed; and

(b) a declaration, signed by an individual who is of the same religion as the applicant and who is authorized under the laws of a province to solemnize marriages, stating that that religion prohibits the taking of photographs of its members and that the applicant is a member of that religion.

SOR/2004-274, s. 13.


http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regu ... lText.html

[dogspoiler]

There should be no exemptions at all for religious beliefs.
Those rules were made for a reason.
Because someone has an imaginary friend should not change a thing.

[Glacier]

There should be no exemptions at all for religious beliefs.
Those rules were made for a reason.
Because someone has an imaginary friend should not change a thing.

Here's one for you...

Police force unveils more modest uniform for female Muslim officers with a looser tunic as part of a drive to recruit more recruits from ethnic minorities

[jimmy4321]

Maybe the stated motivation was lame, but I think the new uniform looks better.

[Blindeyes2020]

Actually because of religious rights and beliefs you should more than others have to have a picture Rpal or Pal. religion is one of the biggest starters of wars and the reason for alot of the fighting in the world now.