Supreme Court rules against FN

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as soon as there are no special privileges for alberta - we can live with unicorns and rainbows.
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burnedatstake wrote:as soon as there are no special privileges for alberta - we can live with unicorns and rainbows.



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Catsumi wrote:I am hoping that this will make FN truly Canadian, living under the same laws, benefitting and suffering from Government decisions just like the rest of us.


Am I not truly Canadian? Since my Indian band is self governing? What a load of Ignorant BS.
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Smurf wrote:Great decision! No small group should have the power to prevent our elected officials from doing their job.


So an even smaller group of people should have the right to amend treaties and laws that affect the people they will not consult?
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Brass Monkey wrote:
Smurf wrote:Great decision! No small group should have the power to prevent our elected officials from doing their job.


So an even smaller group of people should have the right to amend treaties and laws that affect the people they will not consult?



Yes. It's called the Supreme Court for a reason and, unlike America, it's NOT politically motivated.
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alanjh595 wrote:
burnedatstake wrote:sets up for an appeal that may have a chance to be won. touting this as a win is a bit premature.


An appeal MAY have a chance to be heard, but the chances of success is very small. The chances of winning are of much smaller than those of getting an appeal.

Sure Justin will rush in and appoint a few of his buddy judges to the supreme court so they can win this case just to keep his place on the door step at UN and his Noble Peace prize
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Brass Monkey wrote:
Catsumi wrote:I am hoping that this will make FN truly Canadian, living under the same laws, benefitting and suffering from Government decisions just like the rest of us.


Am I not truly Canadian? Since my Indian band is self governing? What a load of Ignorant BS.



And how is this a load of ignorant BS ?

I thought you all wanted to be included rather than excluded.

Or, perhaps you want everyone else to have same rights, privileges and montary gains as you do?
I might like this option best.
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Catsumi wrote:

And how is this a load of ignorant BS ?

I thought you all wanted to be included rather than excluded.

Or, perhaps you want everyone else to have same rights, privileges and montary gains as you do?
I might like this option best.



Do you actually think my citizenry is up to question because I am First Nations?

We can be included without granting a tiny group of people the right to amend our constitution without us knowing anything about it.

I don’t think you or anybody you know would ever trade your life for one of a First Nations.
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"Or, perhaps you want everyone else to have same rights, privileges and montary gains as you do?"
Hmm, well if you are not status ( weird system that but) not a ton of " privileges"
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Brass Monkey wrote:

Smurf wrote:
Great decision! No small group should have the power to prevent our elected officials from doing their job.


So an even smaller group of people should have the right to amend treaties and laws that affect the people they will not consult?



Believe it or not that small group, or those small groups, Government and the Supreme court are there for exactly that reason. They actually make those decisions from single people to the whole population of Canada. That is their job and it is necessary to keep the country running properly. This is Canada we are all Canadian citizens. Are we not? Someone has to make the final decision or nothing will ever get done. I will guarantee that not everyone likes every decision and not everyone hates every decision. You can never make everyone happy. That is human nature and the reason we have final decision makers like the Supreme Court.
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This project is really very crucial to our country's economic sovereignty. It is also going to greatly benefit many First Nations along this route. With many bands looking for a way to lift their people out of poverty it is critical (Brass Monkey is absolutely correct in suggesting no non First Nations person here would trade their life for the life of a First Nations person in Canada – no matter what the perceived benefits). It is well past time to get the shovels in the ground. Go Canada!
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Snman wrote:
Yes. It's called the Supreme Court for a reason and, unlike America, it's NOT politically motivated.


I wouldn't go that far...
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burnedatstake wrote:as soon as there are no special privileges for alberta - we can live with unicorns and rainbows.


Special privileges like what? They don't pay sales taxes?
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