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Pete Podoski wrote:Here's what is completely disgusting about the paid digital influencers of Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party.

Andrew Scheer posted a eulogy on M.P. Mark Warawa today. Mr. Warawa passed away after a battle with cancer yesterday.

The usual suspects who infest social media on behalf of Justin Trudeau's Liberals decided that the right thing to do was to click laughing emoticons in their reactions to Andrew Scheer's expressions of support for Mr. Warawa's family.

What a bunch of low-life pigs. This is Justin Trudeau's Liberal Party, and this is why they have no place in our society, and must be defeated in October.


Pete, why is it you post so much stuff with zero back up? Credible link please.


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It's absolutely appalling how these Liberal Poodles will laugh in complete glee at the death of a husband, father, friend, just because that person didn't love Justin Trudeau as they do. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. It's time you stood back and questioned what kind of persons you've become under Justin Trudeau's directives.
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hobbyguy wrote:Good grief GB. Typical Con nonsense.
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You do know that Doug Ford crushed Kathleen Wynne right? Or is that being dismissed too as "Con nonsense"? I get it, being a LIEberal lap-dog right now means avoiding all reality in order to function, but this is really getting sickening as much as it is disgusting with these snollygoster scowns.
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Poor Justin, can’t do anything right. If he ever does anything right it is accidental, late, or too expensive. No one would want to be in his shoes at this time. He is a non-playable character.
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hobbyguy wrote:Good grief GB. Typical Con nonsense.
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You do know that Doug Ford crushed Kathleen Wynne right? Or is that being dismissed too as "Con nonsense"? I get it, being a LIEberal lap-dog right now means avoiding all reality in order to function, but this is really getting sickening as much as it is disgusting with these snollygoster scowns.


Ummm... yes. I agree that Wynne was in over her head. The problem is that the current iteration of "Conservative" parties is that they are far worse than even Wynne could bungle up (Wynne's biggest problem was getting taken to the cleaners by the Win power subsidy miners, and then making t worse by trying to cover up that fluff up).

https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/fords-popularity-plunges-mainstreet-poll

"Premier Doug Ford is so unpopular he’s got to look up to see former premier Kathleen Wynne’s approval rating, a Mainstreet Research poll finds.

Ford’s latest net favourability rating was minus 53.5%, a figure that has been sliding since January, Mainstreet Research Vice-President Dr. Joseph Angolano said Friday.

By the end of her second mandate, polling consistently showed Wynne with extremely poor favourability ratings — minus 35.3% — and her party went on to lose all but seven seats in the June 2018 provincial election."

Think about that. Once people got a taste of what the current iteration of "Conservative" parties actually do, they find out that the current iteration of is sooo bad that they would have been better to stick with the fluff up Wynne. It took Wynne 8 years to get to minus 35.3% favourability. It has taken Doug Ford less tan a year to get to minus 53.5% favourability.

When people get a chance to look under the current iteration of "Conservative" parties... they don't like what they find.

And if John Tory takes over the Ontario Liberals... watch out, because there is probably a lot more in the "Conservative" government that Tory will expose.

Think about the fact that the Toronto Sun even seems to be turning against Ford...

Kenney will help the Liberals as well... mostly in BC, but Kenney will wind up picking a fight with Quebec.

It appears that Scheer and crew begged Ford to shut down until after the federal election (in fairness, I have not been able to verify that)... but it may be too late. The runaway train of Ford's bad policies will keep running down the track. The Scheer "Conservatives" have been hiding as much as they can, not wanting people to know who they really are... and Ford is pulling back Scheer's carefully constructed curtain - and it ain't pretty.
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It's too bad that folks appear to be falling for the Liberal strategy of "lets fight Doug Ford in this election, rather than our REAL opponent (which is Andrew Scheer)".

Provincial Political Party s are rarely clones of their Federal counterparts, and vice versa. But who cares about facts, when there's an election to win?
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Doug Ford would win the PM chair in a heartbeat .Ford Nation. The man is amazing. He fired half of Toronto city council. That is real leadership. Wish he did the same for Kelowna.
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Merry wrote:It's too bad that folks appear to be falling for the Liberal strategy of "lets fight Doug Ford in this election, rather than our REAL opponent (which is Andrew Scheer)".

Provincial Political Party s are rarely clones of their Federal counterparts, and vice versa. But who cares about facts, when there's an election to win?


what does that really say about scheer if he is irrelevant in a fight?
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burnedatstake wrote:
what does that really say about scheer if he is irrelevant in a fight?


all it says to me is that the LIEberals are scared of Scheer, and are trying to turn the conversation in other directions. And rightly they should be afraid, especially if they are going to keep JT as their leader.
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Opinion: Bill 21 and the moral emptiness of Justin Trudeau

On June 17, The Quebec national assembly passed Bill 21, “An Act respecting the laicity of the State.” The act prohibits large numbers of employees of the province of Quebec, including teachers, police and public prosecutors, from “wearing religious symbols in the exercise of their functions.”

For those who have a religious duty to wear a marker of their faith, the legislation precludes their participation in the public administration of the society of which they would otherwise expect to be full and equal members. The implication here is that commitment to a personal religious system of belief — and let us be frank, to any organized system of belief, religious or otherwise, that is not currently fashionably popular — is incompatible with neutrally carrying out the obligations of public service.

That is utter nonsense, contrary to the principles of tolerance which our country has embraced in its finest moments, and a fundamentally immoral mistreatment of Quebecers affected by the law.

Since Bill 21 is legislation of the Quebec government, some might suggest that there is little our national government might do in response. But that is not the case. Since the 1960s, the federal government has responded to Quebec’s difference by making available to the province’s government a broad array of unique special arrangements. Examples range from special tax arrangements for social programs in the province since 1966, to a 2006 agreement to allow Quebec to send its own representatives to UNESCO. None of these arrangements has been constitutionalized, and all of them are subject to reconsideration by our national government.

Perhaps the most significant area where the feds might reconsider such arrangements is in immigration. While the federal government is entitled to make all of the country’s immigration decisions, the Constitution allows it to share this power with the provinces. Since the 1970s, the federal government has bestowed Quebec with ever wider powers over immigration. The province is currently allowed to exercise sole responsibility for the selection of immigrants going to the province and has comprehensive authority over services related to their reception and integration.

I would argue that if Quebec’s government fails to live up to the Canadian standard of responsibility and fairness in its treatment of religious minorities, then the province’s governments should not reasonably be further entrusted with these sorts of powers.

There is, then, much that the federal government can do to respond to the oppression of Bill 21 — even if only to suggest it is thinking about revising these sorts of arrangements. Given Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s self-dramatizing flair for cultivating pretensions to high moral aspiration, some might have expected his government to carry the lead in fighting the Quebec government here. Sadly, I think few will be surprised in these days to hear that Trudeau has not done the right thing, or any of the right things, and apparently has no intention of doing so. His words on the subject have been few, tepid and un-authoritative.

More important than the prime minister’s words have been his deeds. Amidst debate about Bill 21, Trudeau has apparently not only not considered retrenchment of some of Quebec’s special arrangements as a tool of persuasion but has in fact taken the opportunity to apparently reward Premier Francois Legault by giving his government a new special power. That is a central role in appointing the three Quebec justice positions on the Supreme Court of Canada (an idea, incidentally, which Trudeau’s father Pierre vehemently opposed in the 1980s). This move is a deplorable one in its own right. Supreme Court appointees, regardless of their source, should be carriers of national and universal values, not those of any provincial government. In the context of Bill 21, this move is not only deplorable but seriously shocking.


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Merry wrote:It's too bad that folks appear to be falling for the Liberal strategy of "lets fight Doug Ford in this election, rather than our REAL opponent (which is Andrew Scheer)".

Provincial Political Party s are rarely clones of their Federal counterparts, and vice versa. But who cares about facts, when there's an election to win?


Ummm... https://twitter.com/macleans/status/1060218161654628352/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1060218161654628352&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.ca%2F2018%2F11%2F08%2Fmacleans-cover-resistance_a_23584096%2F

Andrew Scheer is the puppet of these guys. Scheer was in Calgary to take instructions from the same Calgary oil executives that pushed hard for Kenney. Andrew Scheer talked up the "blue wave" trying to ride on these guys coattails.

There isn't an inch of difference between the ideas of the provincial gang of blue and Scheer. Ford has been campaigning for Scheer using Ontario government funds, Kenney campaigned against the Liberals, and so it goes. Ford is fast becoming a failure and bringing Ontario down with him, and it won't be long before Kenney follows suit.

Face it, the regressive Conservatives are all the same. Fat old white guys and their apprentice Andrew Scheer.
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hobbyguy wrote: Fat old white guys


The Justin Trudeau Liberals are horribly racist people.

Using this type of racist rhetoric to attack people has no place in our society.
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hobbyguy wrote: Fat old white guys


Off the charts racism and hate like this is just disgusting. Is there no low too low for the LIEberals??
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Wow I'm seeing internet forums all over being bombarded with the same idiotic talking points, all being fed by LIEberal paid DI's. They are pushing this "homophobic racist misogynist" thing to the max. I have to laugh the most at the idiot LIEberals calling any other party misogynist after the crapola they pulled on Raybould. Just disgusting.

The desperation on behalf of team LIEberal has ratcheted up another 10 degrees. Just disgusting.

Here's one post that was especially stupid that I saw, that must have come straight from the people in the LIEberal mother-ship:

Reasons to vote Liberal instead of Conservative in the next election:

They get irate if it is suggested they want to dismantle the Canada Health Act and throw us to the wolves of American Insurance "pay up or die" medicine. 1/25

They don't like it when people express the opinion that conservatives only care about the wealthy and big corporations. 2/25

I hear so many people say, "Yeah, I vote conservative, but I have nothing against queers or brown people. I'm fiscally conservative and the conservatives are better managers of our money." 3/25

The thing is, in fact, the conservatives of late have been terrible financial stewards. Between them, Mulroney and Harper are responsible for the vast majority of Canada's national debt. 4/25

Did you know that Harper, in a desperate effort to produce an artificially balanced budget before the 2015 election, sold our GM stocks at a loss and sold off Canadian property (that's OUR property, not his) to put money in the coffers? 5/25

So, really, saying the conservatives are more fiscally responsible is not a defensible reason to vote for them. If you look at what else they do, not related to money, conservatives are incredibly hard on Canadians. Our neighbours, our families, our community. 6/25

Look at Ford's government, cutting assistance to families of children with autism. Cutting funding for health and education. cutting regulations designed to protect consumers, workers, and the environment... 7/25

Look at Kenney's government, only a month old, and already cutting protections for LGBTQ2S+ youth, denying public service employees (that's teachers and nurses among others) the right to negotiate their contracts. 8/25

Look at Pallister's government, throwing Manitoba's health care into chaos. 9/25

Both Ford and Kenney are denying the students of Ontario and Alberta (our children) access to sex-ed that is relevant to current issues like sexting, consent, even knowing the correct names for parts of their bodies. 10/25

And look back at Harper. What did Harper do? The list is very long. Destroyed science libraries, chose to visit pandas instead of meeting with First Nation's youth who had WALKED to Ottawa to meet with him... 11/25

Cut Veteran's services, cut Status of Women's offices, shut off acceptance of refugees, ignored MMIWG, removed protection from our lakes and waterways, sent our young men and women into a war zone that was not our war... 12/25

Prorogued parliament several times to save his own a$$. Tried to vilify the chief justice of the Supreme Court of Canada. Cut off media access. Only held town hall meetings that allowed vetted CPC supporters... 13/25

Fired and vilified whistle-blowers like Linda Keen and Richard Colvin. Was the only PM in Commonwealth history to be found in contempt of parliament. Wasted our money on Economic Action Plan billboards and ads... 14/25

Not to mention ads bought in Eastern Europe to tell Roma people they were not welcome in Canada. And ads in the US to promote the CPC and the pipelines. 15/25

He locked himself in a bathroom in a fit of pique while on an international trip. He had an unprecedented number of secret orders-in-council (25+) enacted, 8 during his last year in power.

He brought in draconian and unconstitutional sentencing laws that have been shown in other jurisdictions to be completely ineffective in making communities safer. Apparently to satisfy a primal urge for vengeance among his base. 17/25

He brought in boutique tax credits to pander to people who already had money and ignored those who didn't. He brought in a taxable child benefit. He suggested a "barbaric cultural practices tip-line" "Hey Old Stock Canadians! Report your ethnic neighbours!" 18/25

It was on his watch that @ArarMaher , an innocent man, was sent by the RCMP, via the US, to Syria to be tortured. That's just not right, but reflects a willingness to sacrifice human beings, 19/25

It reflects an absence of compassion or empathy. It reflect a callousness towards others that is alarming. When it comes down to it, that is a trademark of the current conservative parties. A callous disregard for the value of life unless the person is someone they... 20/25

Approve of or could be useful to them. And if you think the CPC is under new management, well, conservative insiders say Harper is still pulling the strings and running things from an un-elected position behind the scene. 21/25

Andrew Scheer hired Hamish Marshall, co-founder of the racist hate-propaganda site, The Rebel, as his campaign manager. Georgette Burke, founder of an anti-Islam group is one of his advisors, A Trump campaigner is running as a CPC candidate. 22/25

The CPC freely associate with racist/misogynist/homophobic groups. They want US gun laws and US nukes on our land. They cheat in elections. They show no regard for the environment. They pander to their base and their donors. No one else matters. 23/25

If you can know all this and still say you vote CPC because you are only fiscally conservative, you are saying one of two things. Hint: neither reflects well on you. 24/25

You are either saying you actually are a racist/homophobe/misogynist and it just makes you mad when other people know it, or you care more about money than people. There's no way around that. That's really sad. 25/25


Does this nonsense look familiar? Is there any doubt now that there is a co-ordinated effort by the idiots on the Left, especially LIEberal idiots, to feed social media with deluges of fear-mongering crap like this? Hey Joe Average voter - doesn't manure like the above just make you angry that the Liberals honestly think that you are that stupid, that you would fall for this nonsense? It sure does. What a bunch of lying slime.
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I watched the Liberal attack ad about Conservatives wanting to introduce American style healthcare and laughed out loud.

I don't know a single Conservative who wants to do that, and it's certainly not in their platform.

Outrageous fear mongering such as that is going to cost the Liberals votes, because people see it for what it is - LYING
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