2019 an election year

Re: 2019 an election year

Postby floppi » Feb 1st, 2019, 10:11 am

hobbyguy wrote:
Actually, the west matters a lot. Without BC the Liberals would be a minority government. Without Alberta, the Conservatives would have little or no chance of a majority.

The Liberals got 29 seats in the west last election. The Conservatives got 54 seats in the west. Very much "the balance of power". Methinks even more so this upcoming election - which will be a tight one, as I suspect the Conservatives will make gains in Ontario.

It is part of the myth of western alienation that the west does not matter. It does - a LOT. In a very tight election, BC tips the balance, and/or makes the difference between minority or majority government. Add in the seats that swing in Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba - and the west has a lot of voice and influence in Ottawa.


That's what Smith is predicting in this link, a Liberal minority government in the fall.

https://www.straight.com/news/1182416/p ... ent-canada
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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby The Green Barbarian » Feb 1st, 2019, 11:41 am

I would be ok with Dimples Trudeau getting a minority. That's all he should have gotten last election, with his 39% of the popular vote. #notmyprimeminister
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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby Catsumi » Feb 1st, 2019, 12:17 pm

The Lib government is busy slicking up the over-spending highway making it easier for them to spend foolishly with little accountability and oversight.

Parliament is to just rubber stamp governmental spending with little input, questions asked and unclarified.

Smacks of dictatorship to me.


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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby hobbyguy » Feb 1st, 2019, 1:32 pm

Your comment about "over-spending" is complete hooey.

The Harperites recklessly and unnecessarily cut taxes to buy votes. The CONservatives then proceeded to rack up a whole whack of national debt by running deficit after deficit, and then they took a chainsaw to the budget for the purpose of a political talking point - and never did achieve a truly balanced budget.

Remember BEFORE the CONservatives? The Liberals had Canada in the enviable position of paying down the national debt and consistent surpluses! But the snollygoster big lie peddler CONservatives destroyed that to buy votes.

It took the Liberals many years to get Canada into that enviable position, and the Conservatives - who constantly tell the big lie of "fiscal prudence" destroyed in 2-3 years. There is no hope of true fiscal prudence with the CONservatives. For the CONservatives true fiscal prudence is only a talking point and not an action. NO CONservative government since WW2 has done anything except run up the national debt - yet they insist on their broken record big lie of fiscal prudence.

The entire "over spending" garbage is just that. It is an attack by those who wish to profit and not contribute. Well, PFFT them!

Those that think this government is "over spending" need to do their homework, and quit spinning nonsense. Start by understanding that this current government is spending less as a % of GDP than the CONservatives did on average during the Harper bungle decade. Yup, the Liberals are spending less than the big lie artist Harper and his crew of snollygosters!

Then familiarize yourself with the Laffer curve and the economic discussions surrounding it. The ask yourself, what other countries in the world would I want to live in? Then compare with this data: https://ourworldindata.org/government-spending

You will find that Canada is actually on the low side of government spending for truly functioning democratic countries.

Then remind yourself, Canada was recently ranked #1 in the world for Quality of Life".

Then abandon the entire "over spending" shtick - it is pure nonsense. If anything, Canada's economy would do better if we had a touch MORE government spending to bring us back to the optimum on the Laffer curve, but the ATW crowd has made the necessary tax increase toxic.
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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby the truth » Feb 1st, 2019, 1:43 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:I would be ok with Dimples Trudeau getting a minority. That's all he should have gotten last election, with his 39% of the popular vote. #notmyprimeminister



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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby jimmy4321 » Feb 1st, 2019, 1:47 pm

The Green Barbarian wrote:I would be ok with Dimples Trudeau getting a minority. That's all he should have gotten last election, with his 39% of the popular vote. #notmyprimeminister


If Trudeau does well in the election tell me you ain't gonna be one of those proportional representation people lol

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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby Ka-El » Feb 1st, 2019, 2:15 pm

hobbyguy wrote:Your comment about "over-spending" is complete hooey.

The Harperites recklessly and unnecessarily cut taxes to buy votes. The CONservatives then proceeded to rack up a whole whack of national debt by running deficit after deficit, and then they took a chainsaw to the budget for the purpose of a political talking point - and never did achieve a truly balanced budget.

There are a good number of reasons most the entire country were so eager on getting rid of Harper and getting us off the destructive path he had us on. Complain about Trudeau all you want but it seems he was the best option at the time; and with the Conservatives picking dimples to “lead” them into this next election (what the hell were they thinking?), and Bernier perhaps not ready to win the election outright, it would seem Trudeau could (amazingly enough) still be the best choice – another one of those least worst option circumstances. Dimples will be an even worse disaster.
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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby The Green Barbarian » Feb 1st, 2019, 9:32 pm

Ka-El wrote:There are a good number of reasons most the entire country were so eager on getting rid of Harper and getting us off the destructive path he had us on.


Well, 39% of the country anyway. That's Lieberal hyper-partisans math for you.

And those "reasons" were a bunch of made up BS. "Destructive path"? What a load of peanut-chucking nonsense. That "destructive path" set Canada on a course for a strong economy, that the idiot Liberals are peeing away with giant deficits and drunken sailor spending. We are on a "destructive path" now all right, thanks to JT's blithering stupidity.

Complain about Trudeau all you want


It's not just about complaining. It's about not tolerating the reams of vapid stupidity and insane spending. It's about demanding a government that listens and respects people. Not this disgusting Liberal garbage we have now.

but it seems he was the best option at the time; and with the Conservatives picking dimples to “lead” them


Another Lieberal hyper-partisans peanut chucker said that Trudeau is "dimples". How could Trudeau be leading two parties? You guys need to coordinate your nicknames at the next digital influencer meeting.

. Dimples will be an even worse disaster.


On this we can agree. If the idiot Liberals are given another majority JT aka "Dimples" will be an even worse disaster in his second term.
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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby The Green Barbarian » Feb 2nd, 2019, 10:02 am

jimmy4321 wrote: If Trudeau does well in the election tell me you ain't gonna be one of those proportional representation people lol


I was being sarcastic. I was poking fun at how hypocritical and stupid both the LIEberal hyper-partisan peanut-chuckers and New Dumb supporters were in 2011 when Harper won with 39% of the vote. The NDP lunatics were the most stupid though, falling for JT's lies about 2015 being the last FPTP election. What a bunch of gullible turds.
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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby hobbyguy » Feb 2nd, 2019, 5:33 pm

I see Andrew Scheer is indeed going for the wedgies. Telling porkies about immigration and playing to the alt-right and the politics of fear. Enough already Andrew, it is disgusting.

Scheer is continuing to refine to accept that these are people, and to mischaracterize folks as "illegals" when they are not, he uses that dehumanizing term from the alt-right at his peril.

The Conservative Party is degenerating fast under the small minded career pol Scheer's pathetic attempt at leadership. Not only is he telling porkies and playing wedgies, he has nothing to offer. At no time does this "points in the game" excuse for politician ever say what he would actually do. Go sit in the back benches with Jenny Kwan, Andrew, it is where you belong - in the peanut gallery.
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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby jimmy4321 » Feb 2nd, 2019, 5:42 pm

The Libs have more control over the Cons platform , than the Cons themselves.
Dimples (Leader of the Cons) position on any subject is simply to be against the Libs.

Campaign slogan should be "We are what You aren't"
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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby hobbyguy » Feb 2nd, 2019, 6:26 pm

^^ Yup.

Andrew Scheer has kept Hamish Marshall on as campaign manager. Hamish Marshall was a founder of the alt-right website "The Rebel". That tells us more about Andrew Scheer's tendencies than anything he will commit to. Marshall is a trickster who is a fan of - wait for it - Cambridge Analytica.

Marshall wants to "microtarget" people with messaging as a main part of the campaign.

What ever happened to the Conservative party - a party that had principles and a platform of ideas? Has it degenerated to just political dirty tricks, wedgies and offering nothing? Sure seems so.
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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby Catsumi » Feb 4th, 2019, 6:26 am

A quick and short overview of JT Libs dismal performance on the world stage.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... er-wagging

I have chatted with a number of Easterners these past few days and not one was happy with Federal gov't shenanigans. So, not just Westerners disaffected, scales fallen from eyes.

Maybe we are united in one respect:

Trudeau Must Go!


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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby normaM » Feb 4th, 2019, 7:51 am

Latest CNet poll has Liberals way ahead Provincial election.
Bet it will be another less than 50% voter turn out
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Re: 2019 an election year

Postby Catsumi » Feb 4th, 2019, 8:31 am

Yes, it looks like the HorganHero is cooked provincially.

Voter apathy is a problem that I think of as "voter bewilderment". Know who to vote against, but who to vote FOR is a puzzle

Federally, my choice is clearcut, I can vote with optimism and clear conscience for a change.

In BC will do what most do, hold nose while placing "x"
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