Sharia Law in Canada.

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Postby Jlabute » Jan 16th, 2019, 11:31 am

Now we have a plethora of muslim dating websites and Imams in Canada allowing or promoting multiple wives. Interviewing the Imams we find that they know it is illegal, but they know nothing will be done about it so it is fine. Their attitude is screw Canada and their laws. Such problems grow and grow to a point of no return. Then you've lost your country. It is time to grow teeth and throw them all in prison, deport them, or else the problem will grow at an exponential rate. Does Canada screen immigrants who have more than one wife? No. Do muslims collect multiple welfare benefit cheques for up to 4 wives in Ontario? Yes. Ontario opened the door on that one. Now Muslims want the laws to be Canada wide and have all their other spouses immigrate... so they can enjoy an enormous welfare state of Canada and never have to work again.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/polygamy-canadian-muslim-community-1.4971971

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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby the truth » Jan 16th, 2019, 11:34 am

so why is jt and are govt not putting a stop to this --now-- :swear: is he jt not all about empowering women
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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby puterbrother » Jan 18th, 2019, 10:29 am

The Desert of Islamization

Religion can exist on a personal level and a public level. Religion on a personal level can be accommodated in a public space so long as it does not change the nature of that public space. For example, a group of people can pray in a school cafeteria. Secularists may object, but their objection is groundless unless the praying people then announce that no one is allowed to do anything in the cafeteria except pray… and only in their approved way.

That is Islamization in a nutshell. It begins with accommodation and ends with theocracy.

When a Muslim imposes his religious identity on someone else, he is engaging in Islamization. That is the difference between Mark, the Mormon taxi driver who refuses to drink alcohol and Mohammed, the Muslim taxi driver who refuses to drive a passenger carrying alcohol.

Mark is practicing his religion in a public space. Mohammed is imposing his religion in a public space. Mark’s religion can be accommodated because his choices extend to his own body. Mohammed’s religion cannot be accommodated because it hijacks any public space that he exercises influence over by attempting to Islamize it. Islamization causes conflict, terrorism and war.

Every devout Muslim is an “Islamist”. Islam is not a personal religion. It is a religion of the public space. A “moderate” Muslim would have to reject Islam as a religion of the public space, as theocracy, and that secularism would be a rejection of Islam.

Nothing in Islam exists apart from anything else. While liberals view culture and religion as a buffet that they can pick and choose from, it is a single integrated system. If you accept one part, you must accept the whole. Once you accept any aspect of Islam, you must accept its legal system and once you accept that, you must accept its governance and once you accept that, you lose your rights.

If it were not for Islamization, Islam might be personally objectionable, but not publicly objectionable. Some of its tenets might be disapproved of, its behavior in its home countries might be disagreeable, but it would not lead to a zero sum war in which Islamic expansionism leads to endless conflict.

Islam has been imported under the guise of multiculturalism, but it does not recognize the idea that there can be room for multiple religions and ways of doing things in the same space. While Muslims exploit multiculturalism, the outcome of injecting Islam into a system is an Islamic space in which alternatives are either eliminated or marginalized. Islam is not a multi anything. It is a single uni.

Islam does not integrate. It disintegrates. It’s hazardous to any culture or political system that comes into contact with it. It colonizes public spaces and pushes out anything that is not it. Or as the arsonists of the Library of Alexandria said, “If it is in the Koran, it is redundant and ought to be burned. If it disagrees with the Koran, then it especially ought to be burned.”

What goes for the Library of Alexandria, also goes for all knowledge, ideas, culture and thought. Islamization measures them all against the Koran and finds them either redundant or incompatible. Like a virus, Islam destroys anything that isn’t it so it never has to compete against anything, because, as its societies demonstrate, it is not capable of competing.

Islam reproduces incestuously. inbreeding its ideology until it has copied it over itself so many times that there is no room for anything else. Wahhabism or anything that is associated with “extremism” is simply Islam copied over itself even more times. It’s not extremism, it’s simply undiluted. It is what happens when you take out as much as possible of everything that isn’t Islam.

The Islamist, like the virus, attempts to destroy what is non-Islamic to Islamize it

That is the objective of Islamization. It copies itself over until Hijabs become Burkas, until everyone is illiterate and killing each other over minor points of doctrine so their chief gang leader can become Emir. When it runs out of non-Islamic things to copy over and destroy, it copies over its own form, introducing errors, schisms, conflicts and religious wars.

The Islamist, like the virus, attempts to destroy what is non-Islamic to Islamize it. His tactics may be small, but his goals are big. And his success leads to a wasteland in which there is only the endless nothingness of Islam, a religion built on the endless conquests of Islamization, and which in the absence of external conflict must turn on itself.

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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby Catsumi » Jan 18th, 2019, 10:59 am

^^^^ Wow, just wow!!! Well worth the read. This article should give us all reason to reflect on what is happening to Canada.
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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby blueliner » Jan 18th, 2019, 11:04 am

the truth wrote:so why is jt and are govt not putting a stop to this --now-- :swear: is he jt not all about empowering women

Why isn't dear JT doing anything thing about this , very simple he wont tick off all his Muslim buddy's and lose there votes .
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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby blueliner » Jan 18th, 2019, 11:06 am

Catsumi wrote:^^^^ Wow, just wow!!! Well worth the read. This article should give us all reason to reflect on what is happening to Canada.

One only has to look what's going on over in Europe and the UK , coming soon to Canada .
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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby floppi » Jan 18th, 2019, 11:18 am

Jlabute wrote:^^^ The Muslim who wrote the WP article is a lawyer who says 'Sharia Law' isn't actually law "But sharia isn’t even law in the sense that we in the West understand it." Nor is it a substitute for civil law, or statutes or regulations, it is basically 'rules for
right action.' Then in the last sentence, "sharia doesn’t hold that everything objectionable to Islam should be outlawed."
So we don't need sharia courts?

How can Sharia outlaw anything anyways? The above article does not explain Sharia or its full scope which can be different to anyone. Sharia interpretation is more loosey-goosey than Trudeau. I've seen sharia mean so many things I am starting to believe it means "we finally got a foothold - hahaha suckers - sharia was just a made up word anyways!"

You check other sources on what sharia might be, you find different Muslims paint a completely confused and/or different picture. It would be disturbing that the government would be involved in the first place to implement a foreign set of 'personal nice things to follow'. The sharia is racist as it distinguishes between muslims and non-muslims, plus the article says the West doesn't understand it. Good, so lets not implement it or allow it. Sharia eventually gets coded in to civil law in muslim countries.

Political Islam is about conquest. It hasn't changed in the last 1400 years. I do not trust sharia is compatible with western civilization and many reformed Muslims speak out against introducing it. "The term Sharia is used by Muslims to refer to the values, code of conduct, and religious commandments or sacred laws which provide them with guidance in various aspects of life." - HELL NO if that is the definition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

"The Islamic revival of the late 20th century brought along calls by Islamist movements for full implementation of sharia, including reinstatement of hudud corporal punishments, such as stoning. In some cases, this resulted in traditionalist legal reform, while other countries witnessed juridical reinterpretation of sharia advocated by progressive reformers."

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2005/08/top_ten_reasons_why_sharia_is.html


You can make out Sharia to be anything you like, especially if you're a terrorist. This is basically true for all other religions too as you can see from past and current human history. But the ones that practice it knows what it's about....the rest of us?....we have no clue.

I’m a lawyer and I’m Muslim, so people think I’m supposed to know Sharia Law. I bet many people probably think I follow it, simply because I’m a Muslim........Yeah, you heard me. I’m a lawyer, I’m Muslim... And I still couldn’t tell you what Sharia law is all about. Why? Because law is complicated. It takes complex legal people to understand law, let alone Sharia Law. There’s no way in hell (no pun intended) that a bunch of trigger-happy teenage boys in ISIS can possibly understand Sharia Law. They just want an excuse to blow things up and to blame it on something intelligent and make themselves feel smart, instead of the high school dropouts that they actually are.

Sharia Law is a very complicated body of law (imagine, like, a very difficult to understand Tax Code) and it isn’t something that the average Muslim can understand in depth. And like American law, it doesn’t come from just one book. It comes from many different sources. So like American law, only (some) properly trained legal people can make sense of it.

To Muslims, the word “Sharia” at the very core simply means the Muslim version of the Catholic Trinity― a belief in God, the angels and the heavens.

So while there are many more rules within Sharia that explain how Muslims are supposed to live their lives, pray their prayers, handle their money, and make governing decisions if they are in power, most Muslims aren’t too obsessed with those legal rules that don’t affect their daily lives.


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Here's another example of Sharia "Law" that is already being practiced in Canada.

Shariah, as a set of religious guidelines, is already in Canada.

Just as Roman Catholic canon law and Jewish Halacha are here, for those who choose to observe it.

"It's all around you," said Imam Mohamad Jebara, chief iman and resident scholar at the Cordova Spiritual Education Center in Ottawa.

"Every time a Muslim goes to pray, whenever I cook and take food to my neighbours, that's me exercising what Shariah teaches me," he said.

In order for the Shariah-inspired rules to apply, you have to accept the basis and the teachings of Islam," Jebara said.

Shariah, he explained, is not a law. Rather, it is a methodology for life, regulating everything from personal hygiene and charity to pilgrimages and burials.

"We use it today to help people navigate the journey of life," Jebara said.

Islamic religious law, he added, is called Qanun— the Arabic word for canon. It includes rules for Muslims, such as not eating pork or drinking alcohol.

For Jews, Halacha also regulates what someone may eat, certain family matters and how to mark different occasions.

"How one observes the seasons, how one observes the week and the day. When prayer takes place, with whom you need to say certain prayers," Bolton explained.

Roman Catholic canon law sets out, among other things, the rights and obligations for adherents and clerics, the structure of the church and sacraments, as well as religious procedures.

"If you get a declaration of nullity of marriage, it's entirely ecclesiastical," said Michael-AndreasNobel, canon law professor at Saint-Paul University in Ottawa.

"You must get a civil divorce before you can get an ecclesiastical divorce. We respect what the civil law requires. What we do is canon law and the civil authorities respect that as well."

Nobel pointed out canon law started in the first century.

"The church considered itself like a society that needed laws to regulate the lives of the people. But it still had to be distinguished from other legal concepts," he said.


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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby blueliner » Jan 18th, 2019, 5:33 pm

Muslim the peaceful religion of the world . " Unit till they become the majority " :cuss:
Then even the Muslim's cant live with each other :smt045

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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby Jlabute » Jan 18th, 2019, 6:27 pm

^^^ Those two quotes do not represent what sharia is in Muslim countries, which is the ultimate goal of creeping sharia.

Mr lawyer is saying sharia is law, and so complicated that it’s impossible to understand and it’ll blow your mind like an IED if you try. Quote #2 says it isn’t law, shariah is using deodorant, or making a BBQ for your Muslim buddies ... or was it turning your non-muslim buddies into a BBQ? You can tell this guy loves shariah-inspired rules... which means rules inspired by rules which is stupid. Neither of them seem to know anything, or aren’t telling. The Quran to many skeptics (thank allah for skeptics) is the most irrational text in the history of peoplekind, with 1/3 of the verses being uninterpretable, not to mention violent and written in crayon by an illiterate nut bar. Islam pretty much stands by itself in the nut bar category. #2 says to follow shariah anyways you have to follow the teachings of Islam... like hate Jews and throw lgbt from roof tops? Like what they teach children in every Muslim country. It too is a methodology for life. Do you see anything defensible in the Quran that we need Canadian laws for?
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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby the truth » Jan 18th, 2019, 7:58 pm

blueliner wrote:Muslim the peaceful religion of the world . " Unit till they become the majority " :cuss:
Then even the Muslim's cant live with each other :smt045


how stupid can they get
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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby floppi » Jan 18th, 2019, 9:07 pm

Jlabute wrote:^^^ Those two quotes do not represent what sharia is in Muslim countries, which is the ultimate goal of creeping sharia.

Mr lawyer is saying sharia is law, and so complicated that it’s impossible to understand and it’ll blow your mind like an IED if you try. Quote #2 says it isn’t law, shariah is using deodorant, or making a BBQ for your Muslim buddies ... or was it turning your non-muslim buddies into a BBQ? You can tell this guy loves shariah-inspired rules... which means rules inspired by rules which is stupid. Neither of them seem to know anything, or aren’t telling. The Quran to many skeptics (thank allah for skeptics) is the most irrational text in the history of peoplekind, with 1/3 of the verses being uninterpretable, not to mention violent and written in crayon by an illiterate nut bar. Islam pretty much stands by itself in the nut bar category. #2 says to follow shariah anyways you have to follow the teachings of Islam... like hate Jews and throw lgbt from roof tops? Like what they teach children in every Muslim country. It too is a methodology for life. Do you see anything defensible in the Quran that we need Canadian laws for?


That's just it tho with sharia "law" in Canada, hey? They have adapted their way of life with our society, it's not like they cut off someone's hand for theft or murder the women for adultery in Canada is it?...I think some have tried to do something similar here in Canada to only find out, *bleep* like that isnt acceptable here.

If you think the Qu'ran is *bleep*, you must not think much of the other ones that comes from the same area and have the same history, hey? Christians, Jews and Muslim literally share the same history and more alike than different so it's diappointing that they hate each other so much. It just shows me that we're just slaves to our base instincts and not different from our animal cousins.
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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby the truth » Jan 18th, 2019, 10:14 pm

floppi wrote:
Jlabute wrote:^^^ Those two quotes do not represent what sharia is in Muslim countries, which is the ultimate goal of creeping sharia.

Mr lawyer is saying sharia is law, and so complicated that it’s impossible to understand and it’ll blow your mind like an IED if you try. Quote #2 says it isn’t law, shariah is using deodorant, or making a BBQ for your Muslim buddies ... or was it turning your non-muslim buddies into a BBQ? You can tell this guy loves shariah-inspired rules... which means rules inspired by rules which is stupid. Neither of them seem to know anything, or aren’t telling. The Quran to many skeptics (thank allah for skeptics) is the most irrational text in the history of peoplekind, with 1/3 of the verses being uninterpretable, not to mention violent and written in crayon by an illiterate nut bar. Islam pretty much stands by itself in the nut bar category. #2 says to follow shariah anyways you have to follow the teachings of Islam... like hate Jews and throw lgbt from roof tops? Like what they teach children in every Muslim country. It too is a methodology for life. Do you see anything defensible in the Quran that we need Canadian laws for?


That's just it tho with sharia "law" in Canada, hey? They have adapted their way of life with our society, it's not like they cut off someone's hand for theft or murder the women for adultery in Canada is it?...I think some have tried to do something similar here in Canada to only find out, *bleep* like that isnt acceptable here.

If you think the Qu'ran is *bleep*, you must not think much of the other ones that comes from the same area and have the same history, hey? Christians, Jews and Muslim literally share the same history and more alike than different so it's diappointing that they hate each other so much. It just shows me that we're just slaves to our base instincts and not different from our animal cousins.


educate yourself you have no clue what you are talking about https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... again.html
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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby floppi » Jan 18th, 2019, 10:32 pm

Isn't that what I wrote...they can't get away with what they think is their version of "sharia law"in the West. We don't allow that in our countries. It's all about cultural differences and when religion is is involved, it can have a multiplying effects. Maybe if you step back truth and look at the bigger picture, all religions carry a similar message but sometimes with extremists that message gets a little distorted.
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Re: Sharia Law in Canada.

Postby blueliner » Jan 18th, 2019, 10:52 pm

the truth wrote:
blueliner wrote:Muslim the peaceful religion of the world . " Unit till they become the majority " :cuss:
Then even the Muslim's cant live with each other :smt045


how stupid can they get

You talking about Trudeau or Muslim's ? :200: :200: :200:
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Postby blueliner » Jan 19th, 2019, 9:31 pm

Winston Churchill 1899
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"Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world."
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