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Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 9th, 2019, 10:30 pm
by burnedatstake
only an idiot would tell people that you should get along with an idiot.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/stephen-harper-says-%e2%80%98a-smart-canadian-pm%e2%80%99-finds-a-way-to-get-along-with-trump/ar-BBS2tRv

and then to top it off he tells us we should kiss american *bleep*. pathetic.

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 7:48 am
by Hurtlander
Harper is truly delusional if he thinks any Canadian PM, of any political stripe, including himself if he were still PM, could possibly get along with and have an excellent working relationship with tRump... Trump eventually throws everybody under the bus, even his closest allies.

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 8:54 am
by floppi
Too bad he didn't take his own advise. It's funny how the solutions are so simple since he's been out of the office. [icon_lol2.gif]

But the fact remains that relations between the two countries are temporarily frozen. This is nothing new.

Periodically, cross-border tensions reach the point where Canada and the U.S. are barely talking to each other, like a couple having a fight. But those tensions are inconvenient for the U.S. and dangerous for Canada. When this happens, Canadian voters hit the reset button by changing prime ministers, and/or American voters change presidents. (The Americans, of course, are always thinking about something different at the time.)


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/po ... e21691812/

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 9:13 am
by floppi
...then again I can understand why Harper would get along with tRump as they are peas in a pod.

The threat of barbarism is grave, insidious and far-reaching. Those responsible are a small group nurturing a foreign-inspired ideology on Canadian soil. They pore over rigid doctrines in cloistered rooms. They scheme to impose their values, attractive only to a minority, on the majority of Canadian people. They have carefully veiled their true selves but their agenda is unmistakable: to erase the country’s achievements in security and fairness.

This threat comes not from a handful of niqab-wearing Muslim women. It has always come from Canada’s Conservative party. Their imported neoconservative ideology, baked into homegrown resentment toward the federal state, has never been palatable to a country with progressive ambitions......

.....Harper’s greatest success in hampering the state from serving Canadians has been to strip it of its most important resource: taxes. Continuing a Liberal legacy, Harper’s cuts to taxes – GST, corporate and personal – have enriched corporations and denied the state a stunning $45 billion a year in revenue. This has deliberately starved the ability of this government – and of future ones – to pay for public services and address inequality or climate change. Such policies have reduced the country to depression-era divisions: Canada’s wealthiest 86 people now own as much as the 11.4 million poorest.

What welfare Harper has denied Canadians he has not spared the tar sands barons. His great fixation has been to elevate them to unparalleled influence, turning the state into a servant of their industry: granting them billions in handouts, the chance to write legislation, and the use of state officials as spies, spin-masters and overseas salesmen. This new character of the state has disfigured the environment beyond just the climate-torching tar sands: from the razing of the boreal forest to the opening of our water systems to privatization, from the extension of oil prospecting in the Arctic to the refusal to list our most endangered species.

Applying the state to the most destructive ends, Harper has also ensured it will vacate the most essential. The Conservatives’ predecessor – the Reform party – once made the mistake of announcing their desire to privatize healthcare, the social program most valued by Canadians. Though his aim is the same, Harper has been wiser. No announcements, but cuts to healthcare have still been set in motion: a crippling $36 billion dollars over the next decade. The effect is obvious: as public medicare crumbles and complaints grow, profit-gouging companies will be waiting in the wings.

The strangling of the state has had many victims, but none more than women. In Harper’s Canada, half of the population is now treated like a special-interest group. He has shuttered women’s centres that aimed to advance economic equality and eliminate gender violence. Deployed parliamentarians to try to reintroduce a debate over the right to abortion. And used tax policies to encourage one-income families – all the better to keep women tethered to the home. Adding a final insult to injury, Harper has sought to win re-election by stoking fears about Muslim women who choose to wear head-scarves at citizenship ceremonies, supposedly out of concern for their liberation. Racist pandering has scarcely been more shameless.

Certain other images of the Harper era are impossible to forget. A mountain of irreplaceable books from a scientific library discarded in a dumpster. Harper pantomiming empathy for a Syrian child washed onto Turkey’s shores, followed by news that he personally blocked the processing of the most desperate refugees. Or when Manitoba First Nations, stricken by the swine flu, appealed for medicine: Ottawa instead sent body bags. Images capturing the quality of a dark decade, the sneering state-backed contempt for our highest aspirations to grasp our ecological limits, to assist those abroad, and to protect the most vulnerable among us.


https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... he-country

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 9:17 am
by jimmy4321
When it comes to Pumpkin Head USA I believe our government made the best of the crappy hand they were dealt.

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 9:41 am
by The Green Barbarian
Harper was able to get along with an idiot in the White House when he was PM, so what's the problem?

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 12:16 pm
by Glacier
Last night in Kamloops Trudeau said the exact same thing. That we need to get along with Trump.

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 12:22 pm
by OKkayak
Glacier wrote:Last night in Kamloops Trudeau said the exact same thing. That we need to get along with Trump.

Well, thats different of course. If Harper had said that [icon_lol2.gif]

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 12:32 pm
by floppi
Glacier wrote:Last night in Kamloops Trudeau said the exact same thing. That we need to get along with Trump.


What do you say as an answer when the guy asks, "I'll give you a beer if you push Trump off a cliff".

Yeah sure [icon_lol2.gif]

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 1:00 pm
by The Green Barbarian
Glacier wrote:Last night in Kamloops Trudeau said the exact same thing. That we need to get along with Trump.


what an idiot!

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 3:09 pm
by Hurtlander
Glacier wrote:Last night in Kamloops Trudeau said the exact same thing. That we need to get along with Trump.

Only a completely delusional idiot would make such a statement at this point in tRumps presidency.. It’s blatantly obvious that tRump doesn’t respect anyone, he’s taken being a narcissistic sociopath to a whole new level.
Mind you, Trudeau probably hasn’t clued in to that.

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 10th, 2019, 3:12 pm
by The Green Barbarian
Hurtlander wrote:Mind you, Trudeau probably hasn’t clued in to that.


There's a lot of things that JT does that I disagree with, but in this instance, there really wasn't much else for him to say. I couldn't fault him on his response in this situation.

Re: Get along with an idiot?

PostPosted: Jan 11th, 2019, 6:13 pm
by d0nb
I honestly don’t think that Canada has any leaders that can function at a high enough level to take full advantage of the opportunities afforded by the Trump presidency.

Trump is able to think outside of the box. On the Canadian political front, only Max Bernier shows some of the same qualities. A private meeting between the two would be interesting.