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Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 9:28 am
by my5cents
Chyren wrote:Its amazing reading these forums and seeing more and more anti-police comments when the police did not create this law.
If you disagree with this law then go to your MP and get it changed.
The police are there to catch impaired drivers. YOU pay them to. If they're not out then its a problem, and if they are out its a problem....
Once again if you want to challenge this law then do so.
The government enacts laws that tread on our rights. The courts that are funded for by the government and who's judges are chosen by the government uphold those laws that tread on our rights.
The laws say, the police MUST...…
and... you say those concerned with the laws are anti police ?
I'd call that flawed logic.
Yes there will always be over zealous police, that's why all laws enacted must have fail safes. That's why we have (had ?) rights like innocent until proven guilty.
Re: Random Breath Tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 11:23 am
by RandyDandy
Very disturbing news about our growing police state. This is CANADA for crying out loud. Can this really be happening here? Apparently the police can now show up at your residence or a bar or a restaurant and demand a breath sample. If you refuse you will be charged and arrested. How did we get to this point?
http://www.globalnews.ca/news/4832762/i ... h-samples/
Re: Random Breath Tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 11:25 am
by Bsuds
There is a topic here already.
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=80776
Re: Random Breath Tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 11:39 am
by GordonH
RandyDandy wrote:Very disturbing news about our growing police state. This is CANADA for crying out loud. Can this really be happening here? Apparently the police can now show up at your residence or a bar or a restaurant and demand a breath sample. If you refuse you will be charged and arrested. How did we get to this point?
://globalnews.ca/news/4832762/impaired-driving-canada-breath-samples/
Those unhappy with the changes, then send a very loud voice to the law makers who installed these changes.
By the way that's not the police forces across this country.
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 2:05 pm
by dirtybiker
Still not sure what these new laws/powers do to curb impaired driving.
Alcohol screening is just a small segment of a much larger
impairment issue.
It does zero towards prescription or non-prescription drug impairment.
It does zero towards sleep deprivation/fatigue impairment.
It does zero toward age or mental impaiments.
To that, all I see it being is a tiny band-aid attempting to
cover a gapeing wound.
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 2:08 pm
by GordonH
GordonH wrote:Does anyone have any suggestions on how to remove drinking drivers from our roads. So that innocent lives are not at risk, well at least from this threat.
Because 50+/- years of counterattack isn't working so far.
To clarify preventative actions.
oldtrucker wrote:i think it is and has worked. Remember 70's...80's when you had to drive because you were to loaded to walk.
it was one of these as 
holes who killed a sibling of mine & friendsIt was acceptable to drink and drive more back then. Look at it now, I would say that people are 1000% more responsible now.
people are still being killed by these as holesIf thousands of people were dying...even then it still wouldn't be about impaired driving.
The federal Libs let the long arm of the law into our homes 2 hours after we went to bed.
If you don't like the new laws, let your MP know your opposition.
Police don't make laws, they only enforce them.
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 2:35 pm
by GordonH
oldtrucker wrote:I know you have experienced the pain as have I, and many others. I'm saying overall todays young people are way more responsible when it comes to impaired driving. No one cared about it really 30 years ago but now things are very different.
Eradicating impaired driving is as impossible when it's still a human at the controls. In 20,30 years or so driving itself will probably considered too dangerous for most people to handle, and driverless machines will eliminate impaired driving.
Just because you, I, and a percentage of the population(whatever that number is) has experienced a loss doesn't make it okay for everyone to have their rights thrown out the window.
Never trade security for freedom.
Like I said complain to your MP if you don't like the new law.
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 4:53 pm
by Ken7
https://www.facebook.com/notes/constabl ... 365210524/For what it is worth read this. As a retired officer it is of my opinion this new LIBERAL law will not stand in the court of Law. Further more, as the article states you the average citizen will not have to worry about laying in bed drinking a magnum of wine with your wife or other and smoking a fatty worrying about the PO-PO walking in and taking you away.
Don't be so naive!!
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 5:36 pm
by soupy
Ken7 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/notes/constable-mark-smith/no-police-are-not-going-to-randomly-walk-into-homes-or-restaurants-to-conduct-br/2350096365210524/
For what it is worth read this. As a retired officer it is of my opinion this new LIBERAL law will not stand in the court of Law. Further more, as the article states you the average citizen will not have to worry about laying in bed drinking a magnum of wine with your wife or other and smoking a fatty worrying about the PO-PO walking in and taking you away.
Don't be so naive!!
Good link Ken.
I don't know why people seem so scared now.
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 5:39 pm
by Ken7
soupy wrote:
Good link Ken.
I don't know why people seem so scared now.
The RCMP in Kelowna, don't have time to stop you when you drive through a traffic light. Do you think they will come to your home?? LOL.
I feel the Trudeau Government was lobbied by MADD and instead of saying, there are laws to enforce impaired driving already they jumped and put more laws in the Criminal Code. Will they stand in court, my experience is saying NO!
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 9:19 pm
by 60-YEARS-in-Ktown
So if you are using someone else vehicle, and you get an IRP... what happens to the vehicle ?
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 9:55 pm
by RVThereYet
60-YEARS-in-Ktown wrote:So if you are using someone else vehicle, and you get an IRP... what happens to the vehicle ?
Bye-bye car, off to the impound it goes.
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 10:09 pm
by GordonH
60-YEARS-in-Ktown wrote:So if you are using someone else vehicle, and you get an IRP... what happens to the vehicle ?
RVThereYet wrote:Bye-bye car, off to the impound it goes.
This is why it's best not to lend out ones car/vehicle.
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 10:48 pm
by 60-YEARS-in-Ktown
For how long ?
Re: Random Breath tests
Posted: Jan 14th, 2019, 11:42 pm
by dirtybiker
And then there are gated communities, gated estates, and the like.
Those living in their confines get a free pass for the 2 hr rule?
At what point do people fence, gate and lock their entire property ?
Access by intercom and buzzer,ala apt. block.
I know it's jumping the gun, just random thoughts.
Sad state, for all our ancestors fought for, to be infiltrated by our
very own Government.
This could very well be just the begining.
As stated, just random thoughts.