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Harassment training mandated by groper PM hypocritical

PostPosted: Jan 11th, 2019, 11:23 pm
by Gone_Fishin
Liberals' sexual harassment training mandated by Kokanee grope PM hypocritical

January 10, 2019

You have to wonder if the female Liberal staffers experienced the sexual harassment training differently than the male Liberal staffers did.

On Wednesday, political staff from the prime minister’s office and those of cabinet ministers attended a mandatory training session “on harassment prevention and bystander intervention.”

It comes more than a year after a top staffer in Trudeau’s office resigned amid allegations of inappropriate activity and of course about six months after Trudeau admitted to the Kokanee grope.

While House of Commons staff and all political parties have taken to providing training to their MPs and staff on this issue, this is all a bit much considering Trudeau’s own history.

After weeks of discussion about the Kokanee grope, where Trudeau groped a female reporter and then apologized for being “so forward,” the PM kinda skated past the issue last July.

“I am confident that I did not act inappropriately,” Trudeau said at the time.

“I’ll be blunt about it — often a man experiences an interaction as being benign or not inappropriate, and a woman, particularly in a professional context, can experience it differently.”

Then he called the whole affair a “learning experience” for everyone in society.

Well, not everyone in society was accused of groping a reporter covering him, but Trudeau was.

“I’m sorry. If I had known you were reporting for a national newspaper, I would never have been so forward,” is how Trudeau was quoted in the Creston Valley Advance back in August of 2000.

Trudeau, who has said repeatedly that we must believe women who come forward, didn’t want you or his staff to believe the woman from 18 years ago. Even though he had addressed the idea that events from the past should not be ignored during an interview with CBC.

“There is no context in which someone doesn’t have responsibility for things they have done in the past,” Trudeau told the state broadcaster last February.

Those comments were part of an interview on the very issue of sexual harassment.

Yet, he never called for himself to be fired or for an independent investigation into his own actions.

Shortly after he became Liberal leader, Trudeau wanted to show his feminist stripes by kicking two MPs out of caucus over unproven allegations. Massimo Pacetti and Scott Andrews didn’t even get a chance to react to the allegations against them before they were booted by Trudeau in 2014.

Since forming government, Trudeau has lost cabinet ministers Hunter Tootoo and Kent Hehr to inappropriate relationships and actions on Parliament Hill as well as backbench Liberal MP Darshan Khan.

A top staffer in Trudeau’s office was suspended and then abruptly resigned before a report into allegations of inappropriate actions by a trusted Trudeau aide was going to be released. The resignation meant the report wasn’t made public. Same with another staffer, a top aide to cabinet minister Bardish Chagger.

According to one of the women involved, both of these men used their positions in the government to hit on women. They allegedly used their influence and power over who got hired to solicit dates and who knows what else.


What I find difficult to take is that this mandated training for Liberal staffers came at the insistence of a man that lives by different rules.

Trudeau allowed himself to say that he didn’t think he did anything wrong, that he remembered and experienced the interaction differently.

And for the most part, other MPs and the media let him get away with it.

That isn’t how any other MP has been treated.

Trudeau should have held himself to his own standard.

He didn’t.

So now it is up to voters come October. ... pocritical

Re: Harassment training mandated by groper PM hypocritical

PostPosted: Jan 12th, 2019, 7:21 am
by Mordu
“The rabbit hole that the Prime Minister has taken us down.” ???? :laugh:

“Running topless through the streets.”

Must've been a slow news day, or an attempt to test the waters on bringing back the Sunshine Boy. ('Sunshine' . . . 'Boy' . . . um . . . oops :biggrin: )

Re: Harassment training mandated by groper PM hypocritical

PostPosted: Jan 12th, 2019, 9:29 am
by Mordu
Also, a suggestion for improvement is a welcome component in any critique.

But the Sun adding the video of Kinsella putting words into Trudeau’s mouth as if he was the ‘unnamed’ women in this case after she'd called for privacy and said she would not be pursuing the incident any further is simply insensitive on the Sun's part as well as his.

Reference ( ... -1.4737511 )

It seems to me ‘there are a lot of things that have been forgotten and put aside’ with the Sun “going down this rabbit hole.”

The story of the “House of Commons staff and all political parties . . . (now) providing training to their MPs and staff on (the) issue of harassment prevention and bystander intervention” could be told without mentioning anything about the ‘other story’ and the person who said she wishes not to be involved.

She was looking for closure, but it seems the media isn't. “Harassment prevention.” Respect her wishes.

Re: Harassment training mandated by groper PM hypocritical

PostPosted: Jan 12th, 2019, 10:21 am
by Gone_Fishin
Being an apologist for a sexual assault is damned near as egregious as the act itself. Trudeau's peanut chuckers want us all to let them sweep Hair'n'Sox's attack on this young woman under the rug and move on to glowing adoration of the perverted scuzzbag. Not a chance.

Re: Harassment training mandated by groper PM hypocritical

PostPosted: Jan 12th, 2019, 10:31 am
by the truth
guess its ok to commit sex assault if your part of jt's crew :swear:

Re: Harassment training mandated by groper PM hypocritical

PostPosted: Jan 12th, 2019, 10:57 am
by Mordu
"Why just do the obvious when we can actually help people!"

Like celebrating the training initiative taken by all of parties and keeping 'the unnamed woman' out of this.

Re: Harassment training mandated by groper PM hypocritical

PostPosted: Jan 12th, 2019, 11:16 am
by Mordu
Bystander Intervention ... ntion.html

So before this harassment of the 'unnamed women' progresses any further . . ..

How do I 'speak up in a way to correct the behaviour of people who are senior in rank to me?'