All Things Trudeau, Chapter 2

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mikest2 wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 9:12 am Just like a broken record, oh I made a mistake. this needs to end !

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he regrets the mistake of travelling to British Columbia to join his vacationing family on a day meant to honour Indigenous survivors of Canada's residential schools system.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/34 ... ake#347781
....and just like a broken record, damned if you do damned you don't ........same ole story.
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mikest2 wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 9:12 am Just like a broken record, oh I made a mistake. this needs to end !

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he regrets the mistake of travelling to British Columbia to join his vacationing family on a day meant to honour Indigenous survivors of Canada's residential schools system.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/34 ... ake#347781
Like a broken record for sure. Getting tiresome, hearing the same old apologies over and over for 'getting found out.'
There is nothing genuine here................Trudeau knew from the get go this was a wrong decision, otherewise, why would it initially been covered with a deceptive itinerary?

Old news...........just quit already.
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LILLEY: Trudeau isn't going anywhere

Is Justin Trudeau on his way out Prime Minister’s Office? Is the man who just won his third election really about to call it quits?

While I think the answer is no, people who are smarter than I am insist that Trudeau is headed for the exit. In the last few days, several commentators have said Trudeau is ready to depart the political stage.

Warren Kinsella has taken a look at Trudeau‘s behaviour over the last week, including the ill-fated surfer dude vacation and the fact Trudeau didn’t get a majority and decided the man wants out.

Kinsella calls it a silver lining and if it were to happen, I’d have to agree with him. But I just don’t see it happening.

In the Globe and Mail, columnist John Ibbitson writes that “a futile election, a lack of fresh initiatives and a disjointed economy all point to Mr. Trudeau’s departure before the next election.” Ibbitson, too, sees the Tofino trip as another indicator.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 11:16 am
LILLEY: Trudeau isn't going anywhere

Is Justin Trudeau on his way out Prime Minister’s Office? Is the man who just won his third election really about to call it quits?

While I think the answer is no, people who are smarter than I am insist that Trudeau is headed for the exit. In the last few days, several commentators have said Trudeau is ready to depart the political stage.

Warren Kinsella has taken a look at Trudeau‘s behaviour over the last week, including the ill-fated surfer dude vacation and the fact Trudeau didn’t get a majority and decided the man wants out.

Kinsella calls it a silver lining and if it were to happen, I’d have to agree with him. But I just don’t see it happening.

In the Globe and Mail, columnist John Ibbitson writes that “a futile election, a lack of fresh initiatives and a disjointed economy all point to Mr. Trudeau’s departure before the next election.” Ibbitson, too, sees the Tofino trip as another indicator.
https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnis ... g-anywhere

Brian Lilley and the sun?

There's some quality unbiased journalism if I've ever seen it.


In the week since TRD, Lilley tweeted about tofino 48 times and about reconciliation zero times.

No wonder conservatives listen to him like gospel, they all share the same bigotry.
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two_shoes1mit wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 9:19 am
mikest2 wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 9:12 am Just like a broken record, oh I made a mistake. this needs to end !

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he regrets the mistake of travelling to British Columbia to join his vacationing family on a day meant to honour Indigenous survivors of Canada's residential schools system.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/34 ... ake#347781
Like a broken record for sure. Getting tiresome, hearing the same old apologies over and over for 'getting found out.'
There is nothing genuine here................Trudeau knew from the get go this was a wrong decision, otherewise, why would it initially been covered with a deceptive itinerary?

Old news...........just quit already.
Why, didn't O'Toole and his CPC have their chance to make their case to the Canadian people? They didn't get elected now did they? If they had anything better to offer, I'm thinking Canadians would have jumped at the chance for a change. That they elected the Liberals and JT says a lot about his opposition. They need to go back to the drawing board and offer something viable to the Canadian people instead of the same ole crapola. In the meanwhile, the Canadians prefer JT as the leader so get use to it for 4 more years.......just get over it.
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rustled wrote: Oct 5th, 2021, 10:24 am Trudeau has been a source of division in this country from day one. We don't have to let him pit us against each other. That's our choice.
I know this will be hard to accept and understand for those who didn't feel alienated at the time, but Harper was just as divisive as the current PM. I think the difference is that while Harper put off more people by sheer numbers (enough to actually lose an election), Trudeau puts off a smaller number, but they are much more virulent and vocal in their dislike for him.

Canadians have always been divided in my lifetime, by language, by region, by politics, whatever's handy really. I agree that it's our choice and we've made it. I don't think it's that big of a deal, most of us are committed to our country, to our identity as Canadians and the things that divide us are part of that. We are divided on so many things and yet, we stand as one when it counts.
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Catri wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 12:38 pm
rustled wrote: Oct 5th, 2021, 10:24 am Trudeau has been a source of division in this country from day one. We don't have to let him pit us against each other. That's our choice.
I know this will be hard to accept and understand for those who didn't feel alienated at the time, but Harper was just as divisive as the current PM. I think the difference is that while Harper put off more people by sheer numbers (enough to actually lose an election), Trudeau puts off a smaller number, but they are much more virulent and vocal in their dislike for him.

Canadians have always been divided in my lifetime, by language, by region, by politics, whatever's handy really. I agree that it's our choice and we've made it. I don't think it's that big of a deal, most of us are committed to our country, to our identity as Canadians and the things that divide us are part of that. We are divided on so many things and yet, we stand as one when it counts.
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It's fine to say he is coming, but my question is "WHEN is he coming?" Just before the next election when he is scrambling for votes?
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Catri wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 12:38 pm
rustled wrote: Oct 5th, 2021, 10:24 am Trudeau has been a source of division in this country from day one. We don't have to let him pit us against each other. That's our choice.
I know this will be hard to accept and understand for those who didn't feel alienated at the time, but Harper was just as divisive as the current PM. I think the difference is that while Harper put off more people by sheer numbers (enough to actually lose an election), Trudeau puts off a smaller number, but they are much more virulent and vocal in their dislike for him.
Years ago, while Chrétien was PM, I was told by a Liberal MP that if Canadians in the West wanted representation at the federal level, we needed to elect Liberal MPs. IMO, there's not much that's more alienating than having a representative of the federal government tell us that they only seriously consider the needs of Canadians in ridings where they get elected.

Trudeau is, I think, an embodiment of this attitude. Although I didn't vote for Harper, I certainly can't recall ever having felt alienated by him, or thinking he was pitting us against each other to achieve his party's aims. It seemed to me he had Canadians' long-term best interests foremost, even when he prorogued parliament (which vexxed me no end). If you mean to say Canadians felt he wasn't listening to us, I think that's true - it's why he lost the election. To me, though, that is not at all the same as dividing us into groups and pitting us against each other - alienation between Canadians is a different kettle of fish.
Catri wrote:Canadians have always been divided in my lifetime, by language, by region, by politics, whatever's handy really.
I can't agree we were as fixated on our differences as we are now. We had moved well away from determining who got the position by looking at skin colour and gender - we were taught we could never assume anything about anyone by those superficial traits and that it was morally wrong to do so. Now, this stereotyping and prejudice is back with a vengeance, along with all the intolerance and bigotry it spawns. Trudeau is consistent in his encouragement of this trend, his gender-balanced cabinet being an obvious case in point.
Catri wrote: I agree that it's our choice and we've made it. I don't think it's that big of a deal, most of us are committed to our country, to our identity as Canadians and the things that divide us are part of that. We are divided on so many things and yet, we stand as one when it counts.
While I'd like to think we stand as one when it counts, it seems to me being pitted against one another for partisan purposes is taking its toll. Nowhere is this more evident than in the bitter vitriol directed against people who choose not to be vaccinated. To me, it is a big deal - leaders should unite us and help us focus on our common goals.

Trudeau's tendency to exacerbate our differences is part of what makes him, IMO, a very poor leader.
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https://www.castanet.net/news/Kamloops/ ... ups#347782

I wonder if he is going to get the warm welcoming now that he made another excuse for his bs.

“It was a mistake to travel on that day,”

Im sure none of his advisors thought it was a bad idea before he lied to Canada about being in meetings all day. Like really, you don't just wake up in the morning and travel across the country without the plans being in place well in advance. The guy is an embarrassment to this country along with any of his supporters.

All politics aside, do you think a proven repeat offender is better to control the outcome of our country or someone who has yet to give us a reason to doubt?

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Seems like something JT would say, I mean that's how he plays politics
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 4:44 pm https://www.castanet.net/news/Kamloops/ ... ups#347782

I wonder if he is going to get the warm welcoming now that he made another excuse for his bs.

“It was a mistake to travel on that day,”
What a masterful bit of political doublespeak there, right?

He's not apologizing for being on vacation when he shouldn't have been - he's saying "it" was a mistake to travel on that day.

Riiiiighhhht.

"Its" happen. Sometimes Canadians just experience these "its" differently. Sometimes these "its" are a mistake.

Some apology!
AtlantisKelowna wrote: Im sure none of his advisors thought it was a bad idea before he lied to Canada about being in meetings all day. Like really, you don't just wake up in the morning and travel across the country without the plans being in place well in advance. The guy is an embarrassment to this country along with any of his supporters.

All politics aside, do you think a proven repeat offender is better to control the outcome of our country or someone who has yet to give us a reason to doubt?

"Do what I say not as I do...unless your my friend then ill help you...until I need to throw you under the bus to save myself..."

Seems like something JT would say, I mean that's how he plays politics
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rustled wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 7:25 pm
What a masterful bit of political doublespeak there, right?

He's not apologizing for being on vacation when he shouldn't have been - he's saying "it" was a mistake to travel on that day.

Riiiiighhhht.

"Its" happen. Sometimes these "its" are a mistake. Some apology.
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Exactly. Justin is a total piece of horrible human garbage.
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AtlantisKelowna wrote: Oct 6th, 2021, 4:44 pm https://www.castanet.net/news/Kamloops/ ... ups#347782

I wonder if he is going to get the warm welcoming now that he made another excuse for his bs.

“It was a mistake to travel on that day,”
Not if I have any say in it! :cuss:

I'm not even sure how badly the natives want him here now that he has disrespected their day.
If it wasn't for them I would ensure that his welcome was nowhere near being warm.
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