All Things Trudeau, Chapter 2

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So wonder if Justin's other bed pal Jagmeet Singh was on the inside track on who was appointed to the new cabinet :smt045
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rustled wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 2:11 pm
The Green Barbarian wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 12:19 pm

LOL - yes only thousands of people died waiting as the Liberals dithered with their comrades in the Chinese Communist Party and the vaccines were delayed due to federal government incompetence. "Bang up job" indeed.
Potaytoe, potahtoe, right?

In fairness, she may have had her hands tied. We know how Trudeau is about giving the illusion he respects someone's ability to do the job, if she's the correct gender... As long as she does what the PMO demands, she gets to call herself a cabinet minister.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 2:32 pm An email I just received:
Dear Reg,

Justin Trudeau announced his new cabinet today and Canadians couldn’t be more disappointed.
Canadians are looking for a serious plan to address the inflation crisis.

Instead, Trudeau appointed a group of largely inexperienced ideologues who represent a real risk to our economic prosperity and national unity.

Trudeau’s latest cabinet picks shows he won’t stop rewarding Ministers who have consistently demonstrated incompetence and a lack of accountability.

And it’s obvious why. If he started punishing incompetence and a lack of accountability, he would need to start with himself.
If we can expect anything coming out of this cabinet shuffle, it is that Canadians will only get higher prices, higher taxes, and smaller paycheques.

Canada’s Conservatives are ready to get back to work and will hold Trudeau to account for his failed economic policies.
That's a very accurate email, Reg! :up:
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 3:35 pm
That's a very accurate email, Reg! :up:
This sentence should resonate with every Canadian who isn't a brain-washed Liberal boot-licker:
Instead, Trudeau appointed a group of largely inexperienced ideologues who represent a real risk to our economic prosperity and national unity.
Yup!

Especially that idiot that Justin named to Minister of Environment and Spooky Unproven Hypotheses....what a clown.
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I have a hard time taking conservatives who said Trudeau was going to lose seriously. So much fake news from these people. As such I think I won't put much stock in all the innuendo and allegations. Maybe a poll should be made or something.
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foenix wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 12:12 pm
hobbyguy wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 11:48 am
That gets interesting as Trudeau approaches the sunset of his political shelf life.
I don't know about that......as long as the CPC keep putting up nothing candidates and policies, JT will have a long political shelf life :biggrin:
Methinks not. Some within the party grumble about his tendency to score own goals. A lot can change, but the party watched as people got very tired of Harper and he overstayed. However, if the CPC keeps on its path of self destruction, anything is possible.

When I see the ongoing promotion of Freeland, Anand, Joly and others it looks like a succession plan. The CPC will have to keep that in mind if they decide to dump Elmer.

It actually amazes me that anyone is thick skinned enough to put up with troll nonsense that politicians must put up with these days. The CPC trolls drove McKenna out of politics, and I don't blame her. I think that situation is part of why the the tandem of Guilbeault and Wilkinson are handling environmental and climate change matters - they simply aren't the easy target for the misogynist CPC troll gang - and don't have the CPC racist trolling gang to put up with either.

The next election could indeed be Trudeauless. Then what will the CPC troll gang and factions have in common? The only thing that keeps them together is their shallow and silly hatred of JT. A Trudeauless election would make Elmer even more useless than he is - and without the Trudeau bashing, Elmer and his band of Outhouse band denizens have nothing - they only know the lyrics to that one song. Press: "why did you ____?" or "can you explain why you take dis position _____? Elmer and the Outhouse gang: we will sing "but Trudeau, but Trudeau" followed by a chorus of "but Justin, but Justin".

Of course a Trudeauless election would wind up with the NDP and PPC being the wild cards, and maybe even the Mavericks (I think the Greens will fade to black soon). Singh ain't goin' anywhere. Neither is Mad Max. Unless the CPC drafts Tom Mulcair they find themselves squeezed at both ends in a Trudeauless election.

All that aside, it really does look like Trudeau is setting up a succession plan. When he puts it into play is anybody's guess...
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hobbyguy wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 4:30 pmAll that aside, it really does look like Trudeau is setting up a succession plan. When he puts it into play is anybody's guess...
The sooner, the better.
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rustled wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 4:31 pm
hobbyguy wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 4:30 pmAll that aside, it really does look like Trudeau is setting up a succession plan. When he puts it into play is anybody's guess...
The sooner, the better.
The next election might be good timing for succession. The CPC are dead if they stick with Elmer the incompetent, and will likely be sitting ducks with a new "leader" trying to navigate the angry troll party.

Trudeau will make the decision, as despite some minor grumbles, he is teflon within the party, and pretty much teflon outside of the party.
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What a beautiful day for Canadians. Mary Simon watched over the Liberal cabinet (not a conservative one) being sworn in. Canadians spoke and now the new and continued cabinet ministers can get back to work with the NDP for Canadians. Hopefully, the new set of eyes on some tricky cabinet files get resolved by some smart women. If JWR played ball and was a team player....who knows - maybe she would be deputy PM instead of Freeland. But I digress.
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The cabinet contains four Rhodes Scholars, former law enforcement, a doctor, registered nurse, a Paralympian, a few lawyers, a handful of professors and business owners, a social worker and a diplomat of the year.

That's a lot of talent that simply isn't available on the backwater CPC side. The best Iffy-O could do is Greasy Poilievre and a drunk who spends half her year in Oklahoma.
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There is potential with the new cabinet to be sure, but optimism is nothing new at the starting gate. I for one will be more concerned with what they actually do. JT has been under fire for lack of progress on things like climate change, inequality, and chronic dysfunction with the armed forces. It would be real nice to see some actual progress there,but at this point it's just window-dressing.
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crookedmember wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 6:43 pm The cabinet contains four Rhodes Scholars, former law enforcement, a doctor, registered nurse, a Paralympian, a few lawyers, a handful of professors and business owners, a social worker and a diplomat of the year.

That's a lot of talent that simply isn't available on the backwater CPC side. The best Iffy-O could do is Greasy Poilievre and a drunk who spends half her year in Oklahoma.
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liisgo wrote: Oct 27th, 2021, 9:30 am
crookedmember wrote: Oct 26th, 2021, 6:43 pm The cabinet contains four Rhodes Scholars, former law enforcement, a doctor, registered nurse, a Paralympian, a few lawyers, a handful of professors and business owners, a social worker and a diplomat of the year.

That's a lot of talent that simply isn't available on the backwater CPC side. The best Iffy-O could do is Greasy Poilievre and a drunk who spends half her year in Oklahoma.
Have a little dignity man.
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fluffy wrote: Oct 27th, 2021, 7:33 am There is potential with the new cabinet to be sure, but optimism is nothing new at the starting gate. I for one will be more concerned with what they actually do. JT has been under fire for lack of progress on things like climate change, inequality, and chronic dysfunction with the armed forces. It would be real nice to see some actual progress there,but at this point it's just window-dressing.
Whether we like it or not, the biggest obstacle to getting things done is bureaucracy. Governments are necessarily bureaucratic and often the ministers in charge are not well equipped to deal with that.

I have a sense that Anita Anand has those skills and has a shot at getting the ball rolling with changes in the military. The real changes in the military will take more time than the tenure of politician, because they are cultural changes. Even in the less hide bound world of corporate cultures, such changes typically take 4-6 years, and I would estimate that the cultural in the military will take at least 10 to properly gel.

I have a sense that Patty Hajdu has the right set of life experiences to take on her new role. It helps that she is from Thunder Bay.

Joly at foreign affairs is one to watch. Having been mentored by Lucien Bouchard might help her out.

Guilbeault has already accomplished part of the task - just by being the "firebrand" that he is, which is to be a messenger. Wilkinson is the one who will actually get things done in balance of things, smoothing the way to a reasonable and steady progress. I've only had a brief opportunity to interact with Wilkinson, but he struck me as a very engaged and reasonable person.

The proof will be in the pudding, and that will play out in the next 4 years.
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