All Things Trudeau, Chapter 2

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Pappywinkle wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 9:39 am It's so great that Canadians have the Trudeau Liberals working so hard protecting our national interests. Chrystia Freeland and Mary Ng are both so effective in their roles, which proves again that the Liberal are the best party for Canadians and Canada.
Canada threatens U.S. with tariffs, partial suspension of CUSMA over electric vehicle tax credit

Deputy Prime Minister Chrystia Freeland has written to top U.S. senators threatening to suspend parts of the CUSMA trade agreement and impose tariffs on American goods unless U.S. officials back away from a proposed tax credit for American-built electric vehicles.

"We are deeply concerned that certain provisions of the electric vehicle tax credits as proposed in the Build Back Better Act violate the United States' obligations under the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement," Freeland and International Trade Minister Mary Ng say in the letter.

"The proposal is equivalent to a 34 per cent tariff on Canadian-assembled electric vehicles," the letter says. "The proposal is a significant threat to the Canadian automotive industry and is a de facto abrogation of the USMCA."
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The letter asks senators "not to discriminate against" Canada and to work together to build electric cars in a way that does not undermine the integrated continental carmaking industry.

"We want to be clear that if there is no satisfactory resolution to this matter, Canada will defend its national interests, as we did when we were faced with unjustified tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum," the letter says.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 9:32 am
Conrad Black: The Liberals are determined to squander Canada's independence

The editors have invited me to write about the 90th anniversary of the proclamation of the Statute of Westminster on Dec. 11, 1931, which effectively made Canada and other comparable British Empire jurisdictions autonomous of British laws.

The so-called Dominions that were declared to be of equal sovereignty to the United Kingdom were Canada, Australia, what was then known as the Irish Free State and which became the Republic of Ireland, Newfoundland, New Zealand, and South Africa.

These were the founding members of the British Commonwealth of Nations, which eventually became just the Commonwealth of Nations. The word “Commonwealth” was first used in this context in a proposal from the prime minister of the Union of South Africa, Field Marshal Jan Christian Smuts, in 1917, and the comprehensive agitation from most of the governments that were its original members, apart from the Irish, was undoubtedly generated by the more than 1.5 million soldiers and sailors, most of them Canadians and almost all of them volunteers, that were contributed by those countries to the British Empire war effort in the First World War.

Ireland, obviously, was different as it was a province of the United Kingdom and sought its independence for cultural and sectarian reasons aggravated by centuries of abrasions between the Irish and the English, both as occupiers and as Irish residents.

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For about 20 years after the Second World War, Canada was a somewhat self-confident country, a political junior partner of Britain and a commercial branch plant of the United States, “a middle power,” as John Diefenbaker told the United Nations in 1960. The Québec problem preoccupied the country for the balance of the 20th century. Since then we have become somewhat aimless and unconvincing in our nationalism, and under the present government and its “Ministry of Global Affairs,” an apparent adherent to a fantasy of a post-national world. But all options are open and it all officially began with the Statute of Westminster 90 years ago.
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Speaking of complete jokes...It's hilarious that old CON Black wants people to remember our history...I think there's that bit where he totes gave up his Canadian citizenship because he wanted a title so bad and then the part where he went to jail in the states for being crooked as a dog's hind leg, that he'd rather we didn't remember. As a non-citizen, I don't think he's even entitled to vote here anymore, is he? He has no credibility, but then water seeks it's own level.
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Catri wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 2:18 pm
The Green Barbarian wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 9:32 am

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/co ... d=msedgntp

Here here! The current government of Canada is a joke. A complete joke!
Speaking of complete jokes...It's hilarious that old CON Black wants people to remember our history...I think there's that bit where he totes gave up his Canadian citizenship because he wanted a title so bad and then the part where he went to jail in the states for being crooked as a dog's hind leg, that he'd rather we didn't remember. As a non-citizen, I don't think he's even entitled to vote here anymore, is he? He has no credibility, but then water seeks it's own level.
You're quick to dismiss the article simply based on who wrote it.

It's called "shooting the messenger", and very shortsighted on your part.
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bb49 wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 5:02 pm
Catri wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 2:18 pm
Speaking of complete jokes...It's hilarious that old CON Black wants people to remember our history...I think there's that bit where he totes gave up his Canadian citizenship because he wanted a title so bad and then the part where he went to jail in the states for being crooked as a dog's hind leg, that he'd rather we didn't remember. As a non-citizen, I don't think he's even entitled to vote here anymore, is he? He has no credibility, but then water seeks it's own level.
You're quick to dismiss the article simply based on who wrote it.

It's called "shooting the messenger", and very shortsighted on your part.
It’s an opinion piece, the credibility of the person who wrote it matters.
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Catri wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 7:37 pm
bb49 wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 5:02 pm
You're quick to dismiss the article simply based on who wrote it.

It's called "shooting the messenger", and very shortsighted on your part.
It’s an opinion piece, the credibility of the person who wrote it matters.
Fine, then critique what the author says rather than copping out.
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Despite Justin Trudeau's chest pounding, he was an abject failure on this file. So was his close friend, Dominic Barton.

Dominic Barton's main role in bringing the Michaels home was as a flight attendant


The Trudeau government is having a hard enough time of it as it is in convincing the Biden administration that Ottawa is a trustworthy partner in confronting China


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Justin tells Xi that the Trudeau Foundation needs more Yuan


What Minister Joly would not want remembered about the whole saga and its denouement is that nothing the Trudeau government did, including the circulation of a petition among UN member states opposing hostage diplomacy (the petition didn’t even mention China) can be credited for the Mikes’ release. U.S. President Joe Biden’s administration doesn’t deserve any credit for it either, but at least Biden’s people aren’t claiming any.

The facts of the matter are quite banal. Meng’s lawyers had failed in their several Hail Mary attempts to quash the U.S. extradition bid in B.C. Supreme Court, and Meng finally copped a plea, admitting guilt without pleading guilty, in a fairly boilerplate deferred prosecution agreement suspending the several wire fraud, bank fraud and conspiracy charges she faced involving Huawei’s dealings in Iran.

That’s when Justice Department prosecutors in New York withdrew their extradition request, and so the B.C. Supreme Court ruled that it no longer had any interest in Meng, who had spent the duration of the protracted court drama under a generous form of house arrest in one of her Vancouver mansions. Once the deal was done, Xi no longer had cause to keep the Mikes behind bars.

Kirsten Hillman, Canada’s ambassador to the United States, explained the situation in a perfectly succinct way. “As the resolution for Ms. Meng was heading towards success, the Chinese government made its decision. And its decision was that it was no longer in its interest to continue holding the Michaels, and so they started the process in talking to our officials in Beijing about making arrangements to have the Michaels leave.”

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If Barton should be remembered for anything, it’s that he played a key supporting role in Canada’s catastrophic lurch towards China — Justin Trudeau’s bright idea — that was nurtured by McKinsey even before Trudeau won the Liberal leadership contest in 2013. It was Barton who was appointed to chair Finance Minister Bill Morneau’s top-dollar Advisory Council on Economic Growth in 2016. It was Barton who was chosen to introduce Trudeau, Canada’s new prime minister, to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that year.

Barton’s going to be drawing a lot of unwanted and unflattering attention in the days to come. He’s too closely associated with Trudeau’s inner circle, and with the Trudeau government’s unseemly enthusiasms for Xi Jinping’s China.

He simply had to go.

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bb49 wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 7:41 pm
Fine, then critique what the author says rather than copping out.
When you have no argument, attack the source.
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One simple question is asked and not one Liberal lapdog can answer it.

How is the government paying the $7 billion bill?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbiOAqZaK ... e=youtu.be

One might think that was an important question and the lapdogs would have known in advance where the money was coming from, but if they don't know, does their boss know?
Does their boss care?
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bb49 wrote: Dec 12th, 2021, 10:13 am
One might think that was an important question and the lapdogs would have known in advance where the money was coming from, but if they don't know, does their boss know?
Does their boss care?
It's comes from the same place all spending comes from for Liberals - unicorn farts and fairy dust! Like DUH...
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More blood on the Liberals' hands.

Jean Chretien cancelled the previous government's contracts to replace the Sea Kings in a bid for political points in an election. In the interim, many Canadian soldiers died in crashes of the aged, worn out fleet.

Then Jean Chretien finally ordered the Cyclone helicopters at an inflated price. Now these helicopters are cracking apart and have auto-pilot defects, and more Canadian soldiers are dying.

The fleet has experienced a number of incidents in recent years, most notably the crash of Stalker 22 into the Ionian Sea in April 2020, which two separate investigations later pinned on a problem with the autopilot.

Master Cpl. Matthew Cousins, Sub-Lt. Abbigail Cowbrough, Capt. Kevin Hagen, Capt. Brenden MacDonald, Capt. Maxime Miron-Morin and Sub-Lt. Matthew Pyke died in the crash.

The cracked Cyclones are now being rushed back into service with duct tape and crazy glue repairs (they call it "non-standard" repairs). Trudeau doesn't care.

Liberals are killing Canadians and it's all tied to chasing votes for power. That's a fact.
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bb49 wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 7:41 pm
Catri wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 7:37 pm
It’s an opinion piece, the credibility of the person who wrote it matters.
Fine, then critique what the author says rather than copping out.
Okay. The author seems to wish for the Canada of the 20 years after WWII. I submit to you that we have come a long way in the last 60 years, that we are better now than we ever have been in terms of who we are as a nation. Trust an old white guy to pine for life when women, people of colour, aboriginals, gays and basically everyone who wasn't a white guy, knew their place and stuck to their own lane. That just made it easier to pretend nothing was wrong...and still, plenty of middle class white guys who are doing okay, think that anyone who isn't doing okay must be doing something wrong. As a society and a nation we have grown up a lot in the last 60 years and while I get that there's this nostalgic sheen to that post-war era (especially for baby-boomers), we are who we are, we live as we do, most of us are proud to be Canadian and all that that stands for...even the parts where we acknowledge that we're not perfect, that we never were perfect and that we need to move forward and do better. The suggestion of a "post-national world", is just a bogeyman, a scare tactic from someone desperately pining for a time that is gone forever.

ETA I still say Conrad Black gave up his right to comment when he shamelessly forfeited his Canadian citizenship. He should go back to the UK and shut up.
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Catri wrote: Dec 12th, 2021, 2:04 pm
bb49 wrote: Dec 11th, 2021, 7:41 pm
Fine, then critique what the author says rather than copping out.
Okay. The author seems to wish for the Canada of the 20 years after WWII. I submit to you that we have come a long way in the last 60 years, that we are better now than we ever have been in terms of who we are as a nation. Trust an old white guy to pine for life when women, people of colour, aboriginals, gays and basically everyone who wasn't a white guy, knew their place and stuck to their own lane. That just made it easier to pretend nothing was wrong...and still, plenty of middle class white guys who are doing okay, think that anyone who isn't doing okay must be doing something wrong. As a society and a nation we have grown up a lot in the last 60 years and while I get that there's this nostalgic sheen to that post-war era (especially for baby-boomers), we are who we are, we live as we do, most of us are proud to be Canadian and all that that stands for...even the parts where we acknowledge that we're not perfect, that we never were perfect and that we need to move forward and do better. The suggestion of a "post-national world", is just a bogeyman, a scare tactic from someone desperately pining for a time that is gone forever.

ETA I still say Conrad Black gave up his right to comment on all things Canadian when he shamelessly forfeited his citizenship. He should go back to the UK and shut up.
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Catri wrote: Dec 12th, 2021, 2:04 pm ETA I still say Conrad Black gave up his right to comment when he shamelessly forfeited his Canadian citizenship. He should go back to the UK and shut up.
You should tell your heart throb Justin Trudeau that he was wrong, then, when he said terrorists are a powerful voice for Canada and always welcome here, and will always be Canadians whether we agree with them or not.


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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 12th, 2021, 2:36 pm
Catri wrote: Dec 12th, 2021, 2:04 pm ETA I still say Conrad Black gave up his right to comment when he shamelessly forfeited his Canadian citizenship. He should go back to the UK and shut up.
You should tell your heart throb Justin Trudeau that he was wrong, then, when he said terrorists are a powerful voice for Canada and always welcome here, and will always be Canadians whether we agree with them or not.
It's apples and oranges, but for the sake of discussion, there are certain circumstances in which I think it would be okay to strip citizenship from criminals who weren't born here. Regardless, in Con's case, he willingly gave up his citizenship because Canadians can't, by law, hold British titles and he wanted to be a "Lord" so bad that he practically peed on the Queen's carpet. He chose to end his Canadian citizenship, he turned his back on this country so he could officially be part of the British peerage, a class system we have long since rejected in this country. I find that incredibly shallow and un-Canadian. It's embarrassing that anyone gives him any credence.
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Left wingers give no credence to anyone who orates a message that doesn't fit the leftist agenda. It matters not their nationality, citizenship, colour, height, weight, gender, etc.

So, not surprising to see the vitriol spewed by the far left Liberals when people don't march in lock-step to the jack-booted Justin Trudeau's agenda.

Submit and cower to King Justin, Comrade, OR ELSE!
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