CBC "All White People are Racist."

[normaM]

no, I don't get it, think from reading some posts that people's ancestors created everything
good grief
hmm, almost like whites are the Master Race ( eye roll)

[blueliner]

Think about this for a moment .
When Muslin's are the minority , minority rights are the # 1 concern

When Muslin's are the majority , there are no minority rights .
So who are the CBC calling Racist ???

[Urban Cowboy]

no, I don't get it, think from reading some posts that people's ancestors created everything
good grief
hmm, almost like whites are the Master Race ( eye roll)

Some are simply destined to stumble through life not getting it, and rolling their eyes.

I certainly won't be losing any sleep over it.

[Salistala]

There never seems to be an issue with using advancements brought by whites....

So, if you have a problem with Muslims, are you going to give up internal sanitation tech, or the numerical system developed by the people in the middle east? Or how about renouncing gun powder when you have an issue with Chinese people? Is that how this argument works? Go back to the point before contact after each disagreement so as to be consistent with your philosophical stand?

How about you go back to the technological point at which you were when the treaties were signed because you don't want to honour your commitments? You know, like curing diseases by sucking out the poison with leaches, bringing merchandise to market with a horse and buggy, or governing yourselves in a feudal serfdom.

An idea, once shared, belongs to everyone to whom it is given

[Brass Monkey]

Think about this for a moment .
When Muslin's are the minority , minority rights are the # 1 concern

When Muslin's are the majority , there are no minority rights .
So who are the CBC calling Racist ???

When settlers were the minority there was no slave trade or Indian genocide, then they became the majority and with that brought the American slave trade and near-eradication of indigenous Americans. It certainly wasn’t Muslims that came here and decided that other races were inferior and subject to government tyranny.

[OKkayak]

It certainly wasn’t Muslims that came here and decided that other races were inferior and subject to government tyranny.

Thats because the Arab's were busy elsewhere in the world with their own conquests and their slave trades. The Chinese were kinda preoccupied in their own conquests and slave trades as well. The Indians? Busy shipping slaves to India, which interestingly peaked during Islamic invaisions. What about the tribes in North America? Well, they kept slaves as well, long before we ever got here and some tribes were more than happy to accept more slaves after we got here.

[blueliner]

Think about this for a moment .
When Muslin's are the minority , minority rights are the # 1 concern

When Muslin's are the majority , there are no minority rights .
So who are the CBC calling Racist ???

When settlers were the minority there was no slave trade or Indian genocide, then they became the majority and with that brought the American slave trade and near-eradication of indigenous Americans. It certainly wasn’t Muslims that came here and decided that other races were inferior and subject to government tyranny.

Any history or input on how the Haida Gwaii rules the west coast with their rape and pillage with the other FN tribes .
Lots of history about FN -FN wars , they sure didn't live in peace either .

[zoo]

When settlers were the minority there was no slave trade or Indian genocide, then they became the majority and with that brought the American slave trade and near-eradication of indigenous Americans. It certainly wasn’t Muslims that came here and decided that other races were inferior and subject to government tyranny.

You want to realize another truth about Native Genocide?
Google the "5 Tribes" and what these particular tribes did to the Mohicans, Huron , Neutral, Erie, Susquehannock , and northern Algonquins nations.
A mass killing of all men, the destruction of their heritage and history. Rape and slavery. Basically the complete elimination of these people and the stealing of their rightful lands.
So wait,,,"The near-eradication" was happening at the hands of Who"
So its OK to be involved in horrible wars, killing, stealing land, yourself, but when it happens to you???
Maybe its time every one acknowledges that they have a dark past and to stop calling everyone else out for exactly what you also did.
Everyone needs to accept the truth and then we can all more on.

[DoDo1975]

You want to realize another truth about Native Genocide?
Google the "5 Tribes" and what these particular tribes did to the Mohicans, Huron , Neutral, Erie, Susquehannock , and northern Algonquins nations.
A mass killing of all men, the destruction of their heritage and history. Rape and slavery. Basically the complete elimination of these people and the stealing of their rightful lands.
So wait,,,"The near-eradication" was happening at the hands of Who"
So its OK to be involved in horrible wars, killing, stealing land, yourself, but when it happens to you???
Maybe its time every one acknowledges that they have a dark past and to stop calling everyone else out for exactly what you also did.
Everyone needs to accept the truth and then we can all more on.

I remember hearing stories about some pretty brutal attacks that almost wiped out entire tribes in the Similkameen. The perpetrators were not colonial armies either.

Perhaps Caucasians aren't the only people that can act like *bleep*.

It is not history, this history is specific only to the colonial powers. the USA and Canada are the only two countries in human history that made it national policy to eradicate the native peoples of the land through forcible assimilation or outright genocide. Who is saying I am not moving forward?

This is the most ludicrous statement I have ever heard. There are still countries doing this today and in the very near past. Have you ever heard of Iraq, Syria, Rwanda, Serbia and countless others.

It may now be considered wrong, but the governments you keep referring to as colonialist truly thought they were doing the right thing trying to bring "civilization" to these parts. That's why they didn't just slaughter everyone.

It's disheartening to hear people use the term genocide to describe the current plight of FN in Canada. Go find some of the people that fled these areas of the world and see if they share your assessment.

[Brass Monkey]

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When settlers were the minority there was no slave trade or Indian genocide, then they became the majority and with that brought the American slave trade and near-eradication of indigenous Americans. It certainly wasn’t Muslims that came here and decided that other races were inferior and subject to government tyranny.

You want to realize another truth about Native Genocide?
Google the "5 Tribes" and what these particular tribes did to the Mohicans, Huron , Neutral, Erie, Susquehannock , and northern Algonquins nations.
A mass killing of all men, the destruction of their heritage and history. Rape and slavery. Basically the complete elimination of these people and the stealing of their rightful lands.
So wait,,,"The near-eradication" was happening at the hands of Who"
So its OK to be involved in horrible wars, killing, stealing land, yourself, but when it happens to you???
Maybe its time every one acknowledges that they have a dark past and to stop calling everyone else out for exactly what you also did.
Everyone needs to accept the truth and then we can all more on.[/quote]


Don’t compare small scale tribal warfare to government sanctioned genocide. At no point in indigenous history did Indians ever come close to eradicating 95% of their fellow man like the European colonizers did.

I am Okanagan, we warred with the Shuswap and Secwepemc over territorial boundaries, we never invaded their territory with the intent of wiping them out or subjecting them to oppression. War between rivaling groups of the same species for sustenance is natural, we have observed it in nearly every animal species in the animal kingdom. What is not natural is moving to the other side of the planet and systematically abusing men, women and children in pursuit of wealth.

[Brass Monkey]

Any history or input on how the Haida Gwaii rules the west coast with their rape and pillage with the other FN tribes .
Lots of history about FN -FN wars , they sure didn't live in peace either .

Did you see the Haida nation spread to the east coast, laying waste to the animals and nature along the way while simeultanesouly eradicating 90-95% of their fellow man? Nope.

[Hurtlander]

Did you see the Haida nation spread to the east coast, laying waste to the animals and nature along the way while simeultanesouly eradicating 90-95% of their fellow man? Nope.

I’m sure they would have if they had figured out that using the wheel to move their stuff, (something the rest of humankind was using for the last 8000 years), instead of dragging a couple long poles behind them, was an exponentially more efficient way to conquer other people’s. Throughout all of human history it’s always the more intelligent and technologically advanced cultures that successfully conquered other cultures, there simply isn’t a culture or society on the planet that hasn’t been conquered at some point in history..... Why is it that First Nations people’s think they’re somehow so special that they need to be compensated for essentially being conquered ? Should people’s who can trace their heritage through DNA back to the original inhabitants of Great Britain expect to be compensated by the Celts, and Romans, and Vikings, and Saxons, and the Normans etc that took away their lands and heritage ?

[Sparki55]

Don’t compare small scale tribal warfare to government sanctioned genocide. At no point in indigenous history did Indians ever come close to eradicating 95% of their fellow man like the European colonizers did.

Really? At no point did one tribe ever defeat another? I think you need to reread your history.

Calling assimilation a genocide is incredibly misleading. Residential schools were not a genocide. Would you have preferred the colonial government to have killed every last first nations person in Canada?

I am Okanagan, we warred with the Shuswap and Secwepemc over territorial boundaries, we never invaded their territory with the intent of wiping them out or subjecting them to oppression. War between rivaling groups of the same species for sustenance is natural, we have observed it in nearly every animal species in the animal kingdom. What is not natural is moving to the other side of the planet and systematically abusing men, women and children in pursuit of wealth.

If it's so natural to kill our neighbors for food then why aren't we doing it now? We have created a better society with laws in place so we don't act like barbarians, raiding each other for land and food.

Now we have a society based on trading where, for the most part we get along with each other.

Also, don't be so naive to think that if one tribe ever figured out how to completely remove neighbouring competition that they wouldn't have done it.

[normaM]

"We have created a better society with laws in place so we don't act like barbarians, raiding each other for land and food."
Yea, now we call it a War and idk, just sounds less barbaric :/

Just some fun facts to toss out
https://www.history.com/news/native-american-inventions

[zoo]

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Don’t compare small scale tribal warfare to government sanctioned genocide. At no point in indigenous history did Indians ever come close to eradicating 95% of their fellow man like the European colonizers did.
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Small scale tribal warfare? The formation and leader control (government or powers to be) of the 5 tribes, systemically, planned and orchestrated the complete 100% genocide of those other tribes. Gone of the face of the planet all in the quest for more land, that wasn't there's, wealth in fur's and hunting. Give me a break, justifying ones past wrongs now because of a scale system.
We, this country, are in big trouble because of this exact thinking. This exact media assisted victimization that will never, ever have an end in this country. Its a problem that will never be fix, or overcome.