Canada Shooting

[rustled]

They were told about the weapons cache, and did nothing.

[The Green Barbarian]

They were told about the weapons cache, and did nothing.

He wasn't a legal gun owner, he bought those guns illegally, so therefore, by Trudeau and Bill Blair's definition, he wasn't an enemy of the state. Now, if he had had a license and had purchased those guns legally, oh ho ho look out...

[Zoso]

The more we learn the more we think that somehow someone may have told the RCMP about the souped up fake RCMP car a lot earlier.

Cops are playing this whole thing close to their chest. Some of those cars had dealer stickers in the window still. Theyve known hes a nut bar for some time and never did anything about it . Easy for our idiot PM to blame forks for making people fat.

[my5cents]

One would have to be in the police environment, but the first "rule of thumb" when receiving most types of complaints is "how can I not take this investigation on", or "how. can I refer this somewhere else." Sometimes that's the old standby, "this is civil".

Anyone who has tried to report their vehicle stolen.... "have you called all tow companies",,, "you're not the registered owner, yes they have left the vehicle with you for the last month, but they will have to make the report ..."

Any 911 clerk can take a complaint and send a car, the real test, is how do you blow the complaint off, by getting the complainant to complete a series of preliminary tasks. They won't hear back from a percentage of reportees and that keeps the call volume to a manageable number.

The one that drives me nuts "how can we...". they ask the complainant how they can investigate the incident !

[The Green Barbarian]

Cops are playing this whole thing close to their chest. Some of those cars had dealer stickers in the window still. Theyve known hes a nut bar for some time and never did anything about it . Easy for our *bleep* PM to blame forks for making people fat.

There's a lot of blame here to go around, and with that, liability too. Here's what we think we know:

1. This guy had a history of violence, especially against women, but was never charged. The police knew about it, but couldn't really do anything, as everyone was too scared to come forward and testify against this guy. Not really much you can do to blame the police on this one.

2. This guy had illegal weapons, and no license, and it sounds like the police knew this. Why was nothing done about that? Why was he not charged? Why were the weapons not seized? This would be something they must be trying to figure out internally, so that they can come up with a story that doesn't make them look as bad as it should.

3. Explanation for why the guy was driving around for hours shooting people, and there was no police response. Where were they? Why was a guy forced to hide in a field for hours, even after calling 911? How was this guy allowed to just start pulling people over and murdering them?

4. The bizarre situation where two RCMP arrived and started shooting at a third RCMP officer, hitting a building (a fire house I believe) that was full of people who were sequestered there to get away from the bad guy. That could have turned out really badly, but luckily no one was injured. Notice how this story has completely disappeared from the news?

That's just what I can come up with for now.

[blueliner]

Cops are playing this whole thing close to their chest. Some of those cars had dealer stickers in the window still. Theyve known hes a nut bar for some time and never did anything about it . Easy for our *bleep* PM to blame forks for making people fat.

There's a lot of blame here to go around, and with that, liability too. Here's what we think we know:

1. This guy had a history of violence, especially against women, but was never charged. The police knew about it, but couldn't really do anything, as everyone was too scared to come forward and testify against this guy. Not really much you can do to blame the police on this one.

2. This guy had illegal weapons, and no license, and it sounds like the police knew this. Why was nothing done about that? Why was he not charged? Why were the weapons not seized? This would be something they must be trying to figure out internally, so that they can come up with a story that doesn't make them look as bad as it should.

3. Explanation for why the guy was driving around for hours shooting people, and there was no police response. Where were they? Why was a guy forced to hide in a field for hours, even after calling 911? How was this guy allowed to just start pulling people over and murdering them?

4. The bizarre situation where two RCMP arrived and started shooting at a third RCMP officer, hitting a building (a fire house I believe) that was full of people who were sequestered there to get away from the bad guy. That could have turned out really badly, but luckily no one was injured. Notice how this story has completely disappeared from the news?

That's just what I can come up with for now.

I smell one very large Justin Trudeau Liberal Rat cover up , very surprised that CBC hasn't jump all over this one .......

[mikest2]

They still will not identify the semi automatic rifles involved. This also smells like the answer will not support Trudeau's narrative

[mikest2]

I'm not finding anything here that supports the "Facts" used by Trudeau and Blair to ram the OiC through.
I am still angered that the engagement used the term "Assault Weapon"

From The Engagement Summary Report - Reducing Violent Crime: A Dialogue on Handguns and Assault-Style Firearms

Overall Key Findings
There are polarized views on a potential ban and limiting access: Overall, participants were strongly polarized on the issue of banning handguns and assault-style firearms. The stakeholder views expressed in two of the engagement channels - the in-person dialogues and written submissions - provided a variety of perspectives both opposed to and in support of a ban. In contrast, most questionnaire respondents (representing a self-selected group of Canadians) were opposed to a ban.

Target crime and focus on enforcement: Many participants felt strongly that a ban would target law-abiding owners, rather than illicit firearms, and would not greatly impact crime reduction (particularly gang violence). As a result, many called for enhanced enforcement capacity for law enforcement and border services, as well as harsher punishments for firearms trafficking and gun-related crime.

Address underlying causes of firearm violence: One point of consensus among the diverse perspectives is the need to address the socioeconomic conditions that can lead to gun violence, which requires more support for community-level programs and initiatives. These factors include poverty, a lack of education or employment opportunities, lack of mental health supports and social exclusion.

Collect and share relevant data on gun crime: There is a need to improve the ongoing collection and sharing of data on gun crime, particularly in terms of sources of illicit firearms and the types of crime being committed. It was expressed that data is critical for supporting law enforcement and border agencies efforts, as well as informing policy and legislation.

Willingness for collaboration with the firearms community/industry: Many stakeholders representing various aspects of the firearms community want the opportunity to be more engaged and to collaborate with the federal government to develop solutions on this issue.

Need a multi-faceted approach: A wide range of approaches and ideas were discussed, which suggests that a multi-faceted approach is needed to address this issue – rather than implementing a ban in isolation.


https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrc ... 9hEtM#a332

[Glacier]

Three people charged for giving ammo to the killer... https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/31 ... ter#318324

[Queen K]

Did the killer have a prior and was not to have ammo or guns? Isn't that it? Did they know?

Because otherwise these charges are a dangerous precedence, are they not?

[oldtrucker]

Did the killer have a prior and was not to have ammo or guns? Isn't that it? Did they know?

Because otherwise these charges are a dangerous precedence, are they not?

Not supposed to give ammo to anyone without seeing a PAL or RPAL

[the truth]

correct.....................

[Queen K]

Oh ok, and the shooter definitely did not have one. Got it, thanks OT.

[Glacier]

The disturbing thing is the fact the killer was wearing an RCMP uniform and driving an ex-RCMP vehicle he made look like a cruiser.

More details here. Kind of shocking how the RCMP would have this information so accessible to the public....

https://youtu.be/mAo1scuLgzc