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Septuagenarian wrote: Sep 3rd, 2021, 8:01 pm Dang, if O'Toole gets in I still can't dig up my Tommy Gun.

"O'Toole promises to repeal Liberal firearms changes while keeping ban on 'assault weapons'"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/erin-o ... -1.6163698
Gangs (or mass shooter/s) can still get whatever type of gun they what because no government in Canada has been able to shutdown the black market.

Just on this point, Gun control is a failure.
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GordonH wrote: Sep 3rd, 2021, 8:07 pm
Septuagenarian wrote: Sep 3rd, 2021, 8:01 pm Dang, if O'Toole gets in I still can't dig up my Tommy Gun.

"O'Toole promises to repeal Liberal firearms changes while keeping ban on 'assault weapons'"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/erin-o ... -1.6163698
Gangs (or mass shooter/s) can still get whatever type of gun they what because no government in Canada has been able to shutdown the black market.

Just on this point, Gun control is a failure.
Actually Trudeau and Blair's gun control measures are more than a failure, they have done zero in stopping criminal shootings and have inflicted unwarranted punitive measures on law abiding citizens, that have done nothing to warrant this treatment by the Liberal government. The cost of this virtue signalling Liberal gun control failure can be measured in dollars, sense, mental health, and our ability or right to own property.
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And there you have it.

Vote Conservative.

O'Toole plan to tackle gun crime tops Trudeau's empty rhetoric

“Gang violence has increased dramatically since the Liberals took office,” O’Toole said. “In fact, since they took office, homicides have risen 20% driven in large part by gang violence across the country.”


It was a smart move by O’Toole. The Liberals promise their gun control will make streets safer, but the increases in shootings and murders by gang members says otherwise. Instead of shying away from the issue, O’Toole pointed out that the Liberals are all talk and no action.

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When a reporter asked Blair, Trudeau’s public safety minister, why the murder rate went down by 8% under the Harper Conservatives but has gone up 20% under the Trudeau Liberals, he went off in all directions.


Blair spoke at length about cuts to police budgets that he said the Conservatives made in 2013. Well, Blair was first elected in 2015 and has been part of the government from the beginning.

If the Liberals think that budget cuts made eight years ago are the problem, they’ve had six years to fix it.

The truth is that the Liberals simply don’t want to do the hard work of going after criminals when it’s so much easier to change regulations for licensed owners and tell the public that they are doing something when they clearly are not.

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The Conservative plan isn’t just about cracking down on crime, it’s about helping youth in troubled neighbourhoods find a way out through a gang exit strategy, including working with the private sector to create job opportunities.

With gun crime a problem across the country, the Trudeau Liberals want to focus on the gun and not the crime. They want to change regulations for licensed gun owners rather than stop the gangsters shooting up peaceful neighbourhoods.

O’Toole’s Conservatives actually want to do the hard work and solve the problems at the core. It’s why their plan will actually work.



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Sorry I haven't read all 68 pages on this thread...

The IOC re: Bill C-71 is terrible and it directly affects gun owners, businesses, and clubs across Canada. I just hope the rest of Canada will wake up and realize that Trudeau and the Liberals are pushing this country closer and closer to martial law, yes COVID is a no brainer, but the push to have the RCMP control what used to be the responsibility of the Governor in Council could lead to a complete ban if the RCMP wishes it at any time. Yes the RCMP currently has administrative control, but they didn't control the classification of firearms in the past.

If the Liberals are allowed to continue when does the power grab stop once they unfairly removed the rights of millions of hunters, sporting, and recreational gun owners for votes. Where does the unchecked power stop after Bill C-71? Remember Bill C-10, Bill C-36, etc... Now common sense in me wont stand for hate, but these bills can be abused and cut off dialogue from people with differing opinions. When will restrictions on freedoms continue to be veiled under the blanket of Liberalism only to discover we have all been lead into a prison? (Oh and don't forget Bill C-74 abused our wallets)

I always think of politics as a huge pendulum that takes years if not decades to swing, the sad conclusion is if the pointer swings too far, in this current state that would be left... then it will eventually swing just as far back to the right, and history shows what that does. So for the sake of balance lets get the pendulum closer to the center before it has as a chance to swing too far in either direction.
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How are those attacks on law-abiding firearms owners working out, Justin?

Perhaps targeting criminals instead of deer hunters and hard working farmers would bring better results.


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Runkle of the Bailey is going thru the laws and postng new videos
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Sep 8th, 2021, 5:22 pm How are those attacks on law-abiding firearms owners working out, Justin?

Perhaps targeting criminals instead of deer hunters and hard working farmers would bring better results.


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The Liberals have done nothing to curb criminal gun use, then lowering minimum sentences for crimes involving firearms !! You can't fix stupid. You'd stand a far better chance at saving a life by taking away someone's car, or banning Tide Pods
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mikest2 wrote: Sep 8th, 2021, 5:47 pm :up: :up: :up:
The Liberals have done nothing to curb criminal gun use, then lowering minimum sentences for crimes involving firearms !! You can't fix stupid. You'd stand a far better chance at saving a life by taking away someone's car, or banning Tide Pods
If I'm not mistaken, Justin's Tide-Pod-Fully-Semi-Automatic-Assault-Machine-Gun-Weapon is over the pod magazine capacity limit.

He should be charged criminally and banned from eating Tide Pods for 20 years!


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ninetyninepct wrote: Aug 29th, 2021, 11:29 am Read the first paragraph and see how this applies directly to Trudeau and his Liberals. The Taliban are demanding everyone give up their firearms.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... dents.html
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mikest2 wrote: Sep 3rd, 2021, 8:25 pm
Actually Trudeau and Blair's gun control measures are more than a failure, they have done zero in stopping criminal shootings and have inflicted unwarranted punitive measures on law abiding citizens, that have done nothing to warrant this treatment by the Liberal government. The cost of this virtue signalling Liberal gun control failure can be measured in dollars, sense, mental health, and our ability or right to own property.
It's because the cabalarian (liberal party) are afraid that if they keep running the country into massive debt, and keep stripping away personal freedoms, they might find themselves at the wrong end of a barrel. It has nothing to do withy you - It's about the satanic Cabal that wants to use "climate change" as a moniker to take away your freedoms, and control the people - wake up sheeple.
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Canada’s gun control laws are truly :swear: up.
Potential mass shooters can still get whatever weapon that works for them.... jt government failure
Gangs & other criminals can still get whatever weapon that works for them.... jt government failure

What’s the answer, I don’t have any answers.
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From the CSSA:

LILLEY: Activist accuses Trudeau of using gang shootings for political gain

Brian Lilley | Sep 14, 2021

We’re in the last days of this election and Justin Trudeau’s Liberals are still campaigning in a fact-free way, trying to use bogeymen to scare voters while not being challenged in their claims.

Case in point, their constant refrain that Erin O’Toole and the Conservatives forming government will mean more shootings in our streets.

If Canadian voters are worried about shootings and gun crime, they should be worried about re-electing a Liberal government.

In fact, Sukhi Sandhu, one of the leaders of the anti-gang group Wake Up Surrey, takes issue with the way Trudeau is campaigning on gun violence.

“What’s most disappointing is that the ashes of our youth who have been killed in gang violence have been used for political rhetoric and wedge politics,” Sandhu told me over the phone this week.

Sandhu was a longtime activist in Liberal politics in British Columbia before leaving that role to work with Wake Up Surrey and push for better policies to end the gang violence.

He said Trudeau has not shown leadership on this file and is stoking fear.

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Statistically, Liberal caucus members are more dangerous than AR-15s. Ban Liberal caucus members.
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ninetyninepct wrote: Sep 18th, 2021, 3:43 pm Statistically, Liberal caucus members are more dangerous than AR-15s. Ban Liberal caucus members.
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I dont always fire a soviet era rifle up in the hills ...

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...but when i do, its with my daughter - & she liked the old SKS too
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