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Sparki55 wrote: Sep 22nd, 2021, 3:54 pm
Fancy wrote: Sep 22nd, 2021, 3:34 pm *sigh - sad that so many don't see that. I can't articulate well enough to those opposed to gun ownership my point of view that removing guns from society doesn't mean guns disappear. We're seeing family history vanish because guns can't be passed down from generation to generation without a lot of red tape and destruction somewhat of the gun.
People can't see this side of the story because they don't open their minds and look into the real issues.

If you're having a debate with someone who doesn't see this, ask them questions instead of explaining yourself. Ask "do you know the # of people killed each year by legal firearms owners". Ask "are you aware of the difference between full metal jacket and other ammo types?". Then my favorite "can you tell me the last time you felt unsafe around a firearm?"

Their tone will change when the realize they don't understand any of the problem.

Gun laws are chosen because people don't understand it, guns scare people, a small portion actually own them and media can be used to gain votes.

Sad, but true.
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Fancy wrote: Sep 22nd, 2021, 3:22 pm
Sparki55 wrote: Sep 22nd, 2021, 2:57 pm But people still have guns. Step one, remove guns.
Remove them from the criminals. I'm keeping mine.
No you wont be. Only a matter of time before this is normal across the country....Sask just allowed no warrant seizure in a 'emergency' according to this site. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/canad ... a-warrant/
I don't know about this site or if it's credible in any way. Someone sent me a link.
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oldtrucker wrote: Sep 22nd, 2021, 6:44 pm No you wont be. Only a matter of time before this is normal across the country....Sask just allowed no warrant seizure in a 'emergency' according to this site. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/canad ... a-warrant/
I don't know about this site or if it's credible in any way. Someone sent me a link.
lol - I really don't think there's enough of an emergency to warrant officials taking my guns for any purpose.
Truths can be backed up by facts - do you have any?
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Fancy wrote: Sep 22nd, 2021, 8:04 pm lol - I really don't think there's enough of an emergency to warrant officials taking my guns for any purpose.
Wanna talk about all the gun owners who have had their guns seized when a natural disaster strikes?
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Damm, legal or not I need a pair of Benelli M4's for the cache.
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featfan wrote: Sep 23rd, 2021, 1:08 pm Damm, legal or not I need a pair of Benelli M4's for the cache.
$2500ish each
https://www.gunpost.ca/firearms/shotgun ... benelli-m4
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Banned now in Canada.
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featfan wrote: Sep 23rd, 2021, 1:14 pm Banned now in Canada.
Just did a Google search and it says that are banned.
No matter there are other ways to get a couple.

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It wouldn't be on gunpost if they were banned.
Cabellas has them new for only $2700. :200:
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Zoso wrote: Sep 22nd, 2021, 9:04 am Exactly , the government wont stop until they have complete control . If you cant see it , you deserve it.
Government is to damn stupid to be able shutdown black market, especially JT’s.
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GordonH wrote: Sep 23rd, 2021, 7:11 pm

Government is to damn stupid to be able shutdown black market, especially JT’s.
Please explain how you shut down the black market.
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crookedmember wrote: Sep 23rd, 2021, 7:21 pm
GordonH wrote: Sep 23rd, 2021, 7:11 pm

Government is to damn stupid to be able shutdown black market, especially JT’s.
Please explain how you shut down the black market.
Not for me to shut it down, government wants to remove assault weapons (guns). Not going to happen with black market.

They can’t even stop the huge amount of illegal drugs coming into Canada.
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So a old guy gets his guns seized during a wellness check...https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/v ... d=msedgntp
From the pic in the article, I can guess that of the 7 guns clearly visible, I'd put a value of at least $12,000 on them wholesale. They seized 174 guns from him- possibly all of his retirement savings. Possibly worth $200K-$400K or more for his 174 guns. A lot of people invest in antique guns as they usually go up steadily in value and are as good of a investment as gold, stocks etc.
I'm wondering if he has a advocate, family etc that can speak for him in this matter. If he doesn't, then I wonder if his estate will be properly managed by people that know the value of what was seized. And another thing....anything that was pre 1898 in certain calibers should have been left in his residence as they are not firearms and storage laws don't apply.
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oldtrucker wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 12:05 pm So a old guy gets his guns seized during a wellness check...https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/v ... d=msedgntp
From the pic in the article, I can guess that of the 7 guns clearly visible, I'd put a value of at least $12,000 on them wholesale. They seized 174 guns from him- possibly all of his retirement savings. Possibly worth $200K-$400K or more for his 174 guns. A lot of people invest in antique guns as they usually go up steadily in value and are as good of a investment as gold, stocks etc.
I'm wondering if he has a advocate, family etc that can speak for him in this matter. If he doesn't, then I wonder if his estate will be properly managed by people that know the value of what was seized. And another thing....anything that was pre 1898 in certain calibers should have been left in his residence as they are not firearms and storage laws don't apply.
The guy is 76 and in poor mental and physical health. The cops took him to the hospital; do you think they could just leave 174 guns in the unattended house?

The guns were seized until this is sorted out.
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crookedmember wrote: Oct 12th, 2021, 2:04 pm do you think they could just leave 174 guns in the unattended house?
No....not the ones that are not antique and I do agree that to comply with the law the other non antique ones have to be locked up. I just hope that it gets handled correctly and in the old guys best interest...A person can have 500 guns out of the gun cabinet in their house at one time and as long as they are under direct control of the owner -its okay. But if that person has to leave the house then everything has to be locked up. Which leads me to thinking about what would happen if I were alone, had some guns out cleaning them or whatever, and had a medical emergency. If I'm able to call 911 but not able to get my stuff back into the cabinet, do I get my stuff seized?
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