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foenix wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 7:48 am
....except you can't kill other people with cigarettes, hey?
Second hand smoke?
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Hopefully not with one breath....
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Bsuds wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 7:59 am
foenix wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 7:48 am
....except you can't kill other people with cigarettes, hey?
Second hand smoke?
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Every year in Canada, second-hand smoke causes 800 deaths from lung cancer and heart disease in non-smokers.

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/ ... 20problems.
Deaths from firearms: 249 (2018)
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Not really showing the true breakdown. One year of gun deaths compared to those by smoking over probably decades.
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Fancy wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 8:06 am Not really showing the true breakdown. One year of gun deaths compared to those by smoking over probably decades.
Firearms have been around decades too.

2014 to 2018 stats. No huge variation, 215 average. Notable that firearms deaths have risen under Justin Trudeau, though.

Total firearms 155 179 223 267 249

Smokes kill more innocent bystanders than firearms, period. But since the tobacco industry is centered largely in vote-rich PQ and ON, nobody's gonna tackle that killer. Better to virtue signal and vilify law abiding firearms owners.

ETA: Far fewer firearms deaths 2006 - 2015 while Stephen Harper was in power - you know, when he made firearms laws so lax...so much for the effect of "tougher" firearms laws.

Total firearms 192 188 201 182 175 159 171 134 155 179
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foenix wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 7:48 am
oldtrucker wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 6:51 am
More people died of smoking within a 30 km radius of Kelowna this year than in all of Canada from guns.
....except you can't kill other people with cigarettes, hey?
Please list the things that anyone with a bit of training can use to kill a whole bunch if they lose it...
-Fist 1-2?
-Hammer 2-3?
-Sword/katana 2-5?
-Car/pass vehicle. 3-10?
-Full load 45,000kg semi with big redneck scary moose bumper, 1 cheating wife, divorce, alimony, child support for kids that aren't yours and 2 divorce lawyers that play golf together on the weekend.... 20, 50, 100?
-Stolen B737 fully loaded with fuel... 100's?

OR...
-Ruger 10/22....22 people for every 10 bullets :smt045 ( there is a meme about that I've seen somewhere before Edit More 10/22 bs link added https://pics.me.me/this-is-a-ruger-10-2 ... 672930.png
Less than 300 firearm homicides in Canada /year. More people will die from blowing their nose or having a heart attack on the toilet.
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Gun Deaths Hit an All-Time High in 2020


The number of gun deaths in America hit an all-time high in 2020, owing mostly to an increase in homicides, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A total of 45,222 people died of gunshot wounds — a 14 percent jump from 2019 and the largest year-over-year rise on record.

The data, published late last month on the CDC’s interactive WONDER database, demonstrates that the pace of gun violence in the United States is accelerating quickly. Firearm injury is now the 13th leading cause of death, eclipsing car crashes for the fourth year in a row, and by a larger margin than ever before. CDC mortality data is derived from death certificates collected at the state level..........

The age-adjusted gun death rate in 2020 was 13.6 per 100,000 people — the highest since 1994.

The steep increase in gun deaths was driven largely by homicides, which spiked 35 percent between 2019 and 2020. Guns were used in a greater proportion of homicides than ever before: 79 percent, up from 74 percent in 2019.
https://www.thetrace.org/2022/01/gun-vi ... data-2020/
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foenix wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 8:32 am Gun Deaths Hit an All-Time High in 2020


The number of gun deaths in America hit an all-time high in 2020, owing mostly to an increase in homicides, according to new data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. A total of 45,222 people died of gunshot wounds — a 14 percent jump from 2019 and the largest year-over-year rise on record.

The data, published late last month on the CDC’s interactive WONDER database, demonstrates that the pace of gun violence in the United States is accelerating quickly. Firearm injury is now the 13th leading cause of death, eclipsing car crashes for the fourth year in a row, and by a larger margin than ever before. CDC mortality data is derived from death certificates collected at the state level..........

The age-adjusted gun death rate in 2020 was 13.6 per 100,000 people — the highest since 1994.

The steep increase in gun deaths was driven largely by homicides, which spiked 35 percent between 2019 and 2020. Guns were used in a greater proportion of homicides than ever before: 79 percent, up from 74 percent in 2019.
https://www.thetrace.org/2022/01/gun-vi ... data-2020/
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mikest2 wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 8:43 am We are in Canada
Liberals forget that when convenient.

They hate Canada.
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mikest2 wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 8:43 am
foenix wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 8:32 am Gun Deaths Hit an All-Time High in 2020



https://www.thetrace.org/2022/01/gun-vi ... data-2020/
We are in Canada
I thought the anti gun control parrots main go to argument is that the illegal guns are sneaked over from the US.....so in that case, when the US sneezes, Canada catches the cold.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 8:23 am Firearms have been around decades too.
...
?? A bullet doesn't take decades to kill someone. You missed the point. Comparing death from smoking that takes a long time to occur to gun related deaths that are pretty much instant doesn't make sense to me.
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Fancy wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 9:42 am
Gone_Fishin wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 8:23 am Firearms have been around decades too.
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?? A bullet doesn't take decades to kill someone. You missed the point. Comparing death from smoking that takes a long time to occur to gun related deaths that are pretty much instant doesn't make sense to me.
It probably doesn't make sense to you because you don't understand firearms.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 9:52 am
Fancy wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 9:42 am

?? A bullet doesn't take decades to kill someone. You missed the point. Comparing death from smoking that takes a long time to occur to gun related deaths that are pretty much instant doesn't make sense to me.
It probably doesn't make sense to you because you don't understand firearms.
Well that's a stupid thing to say. Been shooting for decades.
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Fancy wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 9:42 am
Gone_Fishin wrote: Jan 21st, 2022, 8:23 am Firearms have been around decades too.
...
?? A bullet doesn't take decades to kill someone. You missed the point. Comparing death from smoking that takes a long time to occur to gun related deaths that are pretty much instant doesn't make sense to me.
48,000 Canadians died EVERY single year from smoking. And 800 from second hand smoke. Every year. Yes, it takes decades, but so what, this many die every single year, which is far more than guns.

Gun regulations are good because guns are dangerous, but gun bans are bad.
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*Stop making this personal!*

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