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foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 3:28 pm Yeah I know, the emotions do run high when 19 children gets blown away by these banned guns and they have to ask their parents for DNA samples to identify the bodies. That's the emotional reality of being blown away by these banned guns and yeah, all those responsible gun owners who uses the AR15 for hunting just gets thrown into the mix and the narrative so not much of an extreme dichotomy to me.
I haven't read a single article stating the kids were unidentifiable which leads me to believe they asked for DNA samples so the parents or teachers didn't need to look at the bodies to identify them. Much quicker and more accurate than trying to ID from photos. Where did you read this?!

Does it matter if the guns are used for hunting or sport? There seems to be some level of OKness if the gun is used for shooting animals over targets.

If the USA had a huge outbreak of COVID in Texas, would you expect our PM to lockdown Canada?
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foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 3:28 pm
Yeah I know, the emotions do run high when 19 children gets blown away by these banned guns and they have to ask their parents for DNA samples to identify the bodies. That's the emotional reality of being blown away by these banned guns and yeah, all those responsible gun owners who uses the AR15 for hunting just gets thrown into the mix and the narrative so not much of an extreme dichotomy to me.
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225 victims were killed ( so far ) in Chicago in 2022.

https://graphics.suntimes.com/homicides/

Ya it is the guns not the culture, upbringing, family, work, school etc.
Looking at their guns laws there right now.What a messed up part of the world and getting worse.
This is not a good example of rights.
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Sparki55 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 3:47 pm
foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 3:28 pm Yeah I know, the emotions do run high when 19 children gets blown away by these banned guns and they have to ask their parents for DNA samples to identify the bodies. That's the emotional reality of being blown away by these banned guns and yeah, all those responsible gun owners who uses the AR15 for hunting just gets thrown into the mix and the narrative so not much of an extreme dichotomy to me.
I haven't read a single article stating the kids were unidentifiable which leads me to believe they asked for DNA samples so the parents or teachers didn't need to look at the bodies to identify them. Much quicker and more accurate than trying to ID from photos. Where did you read this?!

Does it matter if the guns are used for hunting or sport? There seems to be some level of OKness if the gun is used for shooting animals over targets.

If the USA had a huge outbreak of COVID in Texas, would you expect our PM to lockdown Canada?
Really? 2 second Google search found tons of the articles like this......

Frantic parents wait for hours to be reunited with kids as DNA tests used to confirm victims
Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-TX) told "CBS Mornings" on Wednesday that many of the children could not be identified, and they needed DNA to identify them and their families. 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-scho ... t-reunite/

It was the same story in Florida with parents being asked for DNA sample because the kids were too torn up from the results of being shot by an AR15.
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alanjh595 wrote: May 26th, 2022, 3:46 pm
oldtrucker wrote: May 26th, 2022, 1:01 pm
Yup. Since 2015 firearms deaths have increased to a panic inducing 270 ish deaths from under 180 ish under Harper. Out of a country of 40 million even 1000 per year wouldn't be bad.
Where do you get those numbers from? OR are they just made up, like the last time?
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featfan wrote: May 27th, 2022, 1:48 pm Never, never never give up your weapons. You are your greatest protector. No one will protect your life better than you. Not the police or your favorite politician. You and only you are your best defense. Never let anyone shame you for standing up for your rights.
Gun control isn't about public safety ...it's about corrupt politicians safety. Always disarm before going full on woke socialist coup... always. And because this is a coup, what was law before the coup doesn't.mean bleep now....cuz we're in a woke socialist coup. Anyone involved in it right down to the janitor of the agencies that support or enable this coup need to be crucified.
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oldtrucker wrote: May 27th, 2022, 4:12 pm
alanjh595 wrote: May 26th, 2022, 3:46 pm

Where do you get those numbers from? OR are they just made up, like the last time?
If you don't believe my numbers then look em up.
you made the claim, now back it it up with evidence.
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So once again the media and the Democrats/Liberals give more power to these mass killers. Not only do these killers take lives, but now because of these political parties and special interest groups, the killers are allowed to take our rights and freedoms too. These politicians play right into the hands of these murderers and make their rampages even more damaging.
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Mark5 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 6:11 pm So once again the media and the Democrats/Liberals give more power to these mass killers. Not only do these killers take lives, but now because of these political parties and special interest groups, the killers are allowed to take our rights and freedoms too. These politicians play right into the hands of these murderers and make their rampages even more damaging.
The left will not support mental health initiatives because it thins out their voter base
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foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 4:05 pm
Sparki55 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 3:47 pm Really? 2 second Google search found tons of the articles like this......

Frantic parents wait for hours to be reunited with kids as DNA tests used to confirm victims



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-scho ... t-reunite/

It was the same story in Florida with parents being asked for DNA sample because the kids were too torn up from the results of being shot by an AR15.
Yeah, really. I've honestly never met someone so intent in raising false information.

All the article states is the children could not be identified by the officers. TO BE CONFIRMED BY OFFICERS WOULD REQUIRE PHOTOS. That would take much more than 1 hour to identify.

but yeah, keep up the narrative that each kid had so much ammunition put thru them they turned to nothing. Oh and keep telling yourself it was due to the firearm, not bullet size and grain.

The amount of misinformation and absolute uneducated opinion on the topic speaks volumes.
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alanjh595 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 4:24 pm
oldtrucker wrote: May 27th, 2022, 4:12 pm
If you don't believe my numbers then look em up.
you made the claim, now back it it up with evidence.
No.
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mikest2 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 6:20 pm
Mark5 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 6:11 pm So once again the media and the Democrats/Liberals give more power to these mass killers. Not only do these killers take lives, but now because of these political parties and special interest groups, the killers are allowed to take our rights and freedoms too. These politicians play right into the hands of these murderers and make their rampages even more damaging.
The left will not support mental health initiatives because it thins out their voter base
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Sparki55 wrote: May 27th, 2022, 11:21 pm
foenix wrote: May 27th, 2022, 4:05 pm
Yeah, really. I've honestly never met someone so intent in raising false information.

All the article states is the children could not be identified by the officers. TO BE CONFIRMED BY OFFICERS WOULD REQUIRE PHOTOS. That would take much more than 1 hour to identify.

but yeah, keep up the narrative that each kid had so much ammunition put thru them they turned to nothing. Oh and keep telling yourself it was due to the firearm, not bullet size and grain.

The amount of misinformation and absolute uneducated opinion on the topic speaks volumes.
It's a 22 cal. It's a very common .223 Remington cartridge. It is almost identical with the NATO 5.56 It's the exact same cartridge used in many other rifles, not just a ar15. They are common on farms/ ranches, they are good for light- medium things like yotes that are trying to kill your calves. They usually shoot a 55 grain bullet at about 3100 feet per second delivering about 1800 ft-lb of energy at the muzzle.
Feonix ...what if I could prove to you that this is incorrect and greatly over exaggerated? Would you take a rethink on it if the proof that I presented was irrefutable? Seriously, unless the shooter stood there and went through multiple magazines of rounds at 1 person, well...its over exaggerated. We do not know the exact details of what or why the DNA was needed. If it's because of extremely devastating head injury, yes that would be a possible reason. If it was a ar10 that fired the common .308 Winchester which is nearly double the power of the .223 the injuries would be far worse. The point to that is the gun that was used really isn't all that powerful compared to most other rifles.

As I said before, it's not guns...they have been around for centuries but this bullbleep just happened to start at right when the internet and social media started. It started when the govt and court worked their slimy claws into every aspect of people's lives they could... taking parents ability to raise thier kids thier way and doing things the govt's way. This started when globalism and open borders allowed drugs into our lives destroying a large part of the moral fabric of our society. (apparently the shooters mother was a drug addict I read.) Ultimately....-leading to 'men' who aren't men until they are over 30. Boys and girls were told they were special for showing up and got a trophy for not winning. Morals... a sense and understanding of what honor is....Ya... I could really go on with that list...
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Vast majority of these statistics are criminals using guns, criminals don’t register their gun and they get their gun from the Black Market.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/37 ... Can-report

Almost every evening news there is at least 1 gang shooting in GVRD, same thing GTA.
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GordonH wrote: May 29th, 2022, 7:40 am Vast majority of these statistics are criminals using guns, criminals don’t register their gun and they get their gun from the Black Market.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/37 ... Can-report

Almost every evening news there is at least 1 gang shooting in GVRD, same thing GTA.
There you go Alan...you wanted a link showing my numbers on the increase since Harper left and kukhead got in
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