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crookedmember wrote: Aug 9th, 2021, 5:52 pm The sad fact is most "law-abiding" gun owners don't shoot criminals. They shoot themselves, spouses, kids and friends dead.

And sometimes . . .


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Best check your stats, we are in Canada, not the US.
In Canada law abiding legal licensed, vetted gun owners are not the problem. Criminals are the problem.
But your idol Trudeau has reduced the minimum sentence for a crime involving a firearm, please explain to me, and anyone else how that possibly discourages the criminal use of firearms.
You can't, no one can, anyone who thinks they can is an idiot at least, and a Liberal Public Safety Minister at best (read as less than mediocre).
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Almost every gun owner is law-abiding until the day he decides to take out a school, church or movie theatre.

That's why handguns and assault weapons will always be restricted in Canada.

You want guns-everywhere and the mayhem that goes with it, move south.
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crookedmember wrote: Aug 9th, 2021, 7:58 pm Almost every gun owner is law-abiding until the day he decides to take out a school, church or movie theatre.

That's why handguns and assault weapons will always be restricted in Canada.

You want guns-everywhere and the mayhem that goes with it, move south.
But I don't want that, neither do a couple million other legal lawful, licensed firearms owners, we are happy with the regs as they were. Trudeau now requires me to phone the CFO (9-5 mon-fri) to get an ATT so I can take my restricted firearm to a gunsmith, the police station, or a gun shop. Do you really believe that is going to stop a criminal with an illegally acquired and possessed firearm from carrying ?
Beyond belief. You guys should draft up some drunk driving laws ! Take away sober driver's cars and drunks won't drive ? Oh.........and make sure you lower the minimum sentencing for drunk drivers too.

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Speaking of the stupid Liberals and their infatuation with gun control, Quick Dick weighs in with his opinion on the matter, and just what giant fools the Liberals are. You tell em Quick Dick!!



Bill Blair is a freaking idiot, but of course, still doesn't hold a candle to how freaking dense our PM Justin is.
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crookedmember wrote: Aug 9th, 2021, 7:58 pm Almost every gun owner is law-abiding until the day he decides to take out a school, church or movie theatre.

That's why handguns and assault weapons will always be restricted in Canada.

You want guns-everywhere and the mayhem that goes with it, move south.
You may want to check history google mass murders in Canada again.

From 1969 there have been 12 recorded mass murders in Canada including the recent one with the Muslim family.
Out of those 12, 7 used a firearm or firearms, 5 used vehicle, blunt object or fists and feet.

I’m sure we can all agree that 12 mass murders are 12 too much but it’s hard to say that Canada has any type of gun problem when we have less murders per year than a metropolitan city in the USA has in one weekend.

Our previous gun control measures are working. It shows in the statistics.
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My task this afternoon, renew my PAL. :biggrin:
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crookedmember wrote: Aug 9th, 2021, 8:54 am Meanwhile, thanks for keeping us safe, Mr. Trudeau.

Ah no, I don't believe Justin has been keeping us safe.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85- ... 01-eng.htm

Total violent crime, 2018 to 2019 +11%
Total violent crime, 2008 to 2019 -3%

Total - all violations, 2018 to 2019 +5%
Total - all violations, 2008 to 2019 -11%

Hmm, 2018 to 2019, crime is up. And who was Prime Minister then?
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bb49 wrote: Aug 10th, 2021, 10:00 pm Hmm, 2018 to 2019, crime is up. And who was Prime Minister then?
Canada hasn't had a Prime Minister since 2015.

Trudeau has reduced sentences for violent crime, so of course crime rates go up. "Oh you bad boy, don't do armed robberies any more and we'll give you a lollipop and send you on your way, K?"
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crookedmember wrote: Aug 9th, 2021, 7:58 pm Almost every gun owner is law-abiding until the day he decides to take out a school, church or movie theatre.

If someone really wanted to, they could take out a lot more than what you have listed. Ingredients from walmart/ dept store... no gun required.
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So, the failed Lib's touted their "Gun Control" agenda in 2019 - wow - now they are advertising at how their agenda has FAILED and FAILED MISERABLY.

47% increase in Gun Violence AFTER they patted themselves on the back for even MORE restrictions on us Law Abiding citizens.

Well Trudeau - you are a failure - you were always a failure and you will always be a failure and so is your idiot minister Blair who hasn't got the skills to be a front man for a McDonalds order desk.

When will people actually realize that it isn't the average people driving gun crime up - IT'S THE CRIMINALS - GET IT???? Eh??????

All your doing is making law abiding gun owners scape goats for YOUR FAILURE to control the Drug Trade. It's the GANGS doing the shooting, or are you hiding in your basements like your American Loser Socialists.

Socialism is a step to Communism - I said this when that dirt bag Trudeau/Castro ( take your pick ) stole the election by catering to the druggies.

Ever wonder why people always try to escape from COMMUNISM but not DEMOCRACY???

Trudeau and his crime family have to go - better - they need to be arrested and thrown in jail.

The only thing Trudeau has done that is positive in this country is ---- NOTHING!!
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Who needs guns?

They make way too much noise.

Ever try and fire a hand gun - especially a large caliber? Why do you think Gunfighters stood only 20' away - because they are terribly inaccurate, and add to the fact most people would be shaking in their boots if they had to fire it.

Believe me - there are thousands of more efficient ways - and a simple trip to the grocery store can wreak death and destruction like you have never seen - and if you study what's simply lying around in nature, and learn what to do with it, the results can be - well - "you know" - try and regulate that Trudeau you fool!!

As far as I'm concerned - everyone should have a gun - if that were the case that guy who tried to assassinate those dirt bags would not be standing long - and one less piece of garbage to clog up the courts system and the jails, and cost us taxpayers a cool million or so.
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crookedmember wrote: Aug 9th, 2021, 7:58 pm Almost every gun owner is law-abiding until the day he decides to take out a school, church or movie theatre.

That's why handguns and assault weapons will always be restricted in Canada.

You want guns-everywhere and the mayhem that goes with it, move south.
Even if you were to take away all guns - 3d printed guns are going to become the norm. It's easy to get an auto cad .dwg file on the internet for a gun. Australia is having a huge problem with that now - they made it almost impossible to own a gun if you're not a farmer - now look what's happening.
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Amazing how many on here think it's law abiding citizens that are the cause of the gun problem.
!!!! What a bunch of Mor**s

Those Liberal idiots ( most have to share a brain because there isn't a full one between them ), in 2019, yet again spend millions to go after law abiding citizens - and pat themselves on the back on the great job they did to solve the gun problem.

Oops - since then gun violence went up 47%, wow - that didn't work huh????

Duhhhh - maybe we should attack them again and it will scare the gangsters that are really causing the probme. So, hey - lets attack them again - since they are easy targets and there are so many stupid voters out there.

Get a grip - ever think that perhaps if you spend more time and all that money on GETTING RID OF THE DRUG GANGS, that might actually decrease the gun violence and get those illegal ones off the streets????

If they start going after the lowly street dealer, the big boys will soon run out of their salesmen and have to do it themselves which means - they will be exposing themselves - you know - like the crooked politicians, lawyers and cops on the take.

Naw - easier simply to keep harrassing joe citizen - keeps the dirty money flowing up hill to pad the political retirement funds sitting in swiss bank accounts!

Wake Up - it isn't about stopping guns or drugs - too much money floats uphill from that - it's more of the "Show" that makes it look like they are doing something about it - when it's quite the opposite.

Why do you think these twisted pieces of fecal material go into politics??

Give you one guess -

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Another classic Trudeau and MSM piece of misinformation:

"Tories would repeal gun ban
Trudeau criticizes Conservative plan to repeal Liberal ban on 'assault weapons'
Assault weapon is a term used to describe a selective fire firearm or automatic weapon, these have been prohibited in Canada since the 70s

Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau is accusing Conservative rival Erin O'Toole of pandering to the gun lobby with his promise to repeal a ban on what the government considers military-style assault weapons.
The reality is that Trudeau is pandering to uninformed Canadians who he would like to have believe that These legally purchased, restricted, and registered firearms owned by licensed vetted Canadians are the source of gun crime in Canada. Not so.

At a campaign stop in Vancouver today, Trudeau says it is inconceivable, at a time when Canadians are concerned about gun violence, that the Conservatives would pledge to reverse the measure.Once again none of Trudeau's gun control measures have done anything to make Canadians safer. All he has done is make life more difficult for law abiding licensed firearms owners, at the same time as Trudeau has reduced minimum sentencing for criminals convicted of crimes involving guns. Go figure, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

In May last year, the Liberals banned some 1,500 firearm models, including the popular AR-15 rifle, meaning they cannot be legally used, sold or imported. And these newly prohibited firearms remain in the same secure safe storage that they were required to be in before Trudeau enacted the OIC

Earlier this year, they introduced legislation proposing a buyback of the banned firearms, though owners would be allowed to keep them under strict conditions, including registration and secure storage of the guns.You just can't fix stupid, someone has to tell Trudeau and Blair that most of these newly banned firearms (including the AR 15) were registered already as restricted firearms and already had to be stored securely

The legislation, which died with Parliament's recent dissolution, would also have allowed municipalities to ban handguns through bylaws restricting their possession, storage and transportation. Municipalities have no business in control of firearms, it is federal law.

The Conservative platform says the party would scrap the May 2020 ban and review the Firearms Act with input from police, gun owners, manufacturers and the public."

The latest change from bill C-71 rescinded the ATT (authorization to transport) conditions attached to a firearms license so that a licensed firearm owner now has to phone in Monday to Friday 9:00-5:00 and request a temporary ATT in order to take a restricted firearm to a police station, gunsmith or gun show.
Somehow I don't see any criminals calling for an ATT to have an illegally acquired and possessed firearm for going from A to B.
Nor do any criminals have an ATC (authorization to carry) for the illegally acquired and possessed firearm in their waistband.

All that Trudeau and Blair have done is waste vast amounts of money, time and manpower.
Simply put, why do Trudeau and Blair go after criminals instead of Law abiding citizens ?

I am truly saddened by the of lack of ethics shown by Trudeau and the Liberals on "Gun Control"







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^^ :up: :up: mike2.

It seems to me the Trudeau Liberals genuinely think most Canadians are stupid, easily manipulated, and unable to see through them.

Notice the press used scare quotes around "assault rifles" in this headline. Maybe they're tired of being complicit.
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