Poll for Humboldt truck driver

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Poll for Humboldt truck driver

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The Castanet Forum Poll about the truck driver involved in the Humboldt bus crash is at a 50 / 50 split regarding deporting him or not after his sentence is complete.
How did those people that want him deported arrive at their decision & what would be accomplished if this is done ?

Our Federal & Provincial Governments have IMO failed all Canadians by not implementing stricter driver licencing for every class of licence in Canada ?
For years professional drivers have complained about the lax way new drivers without any experience are allowed to obtain a Class 1 licence & other fraudulent violations ?

Following the Humboldt tragedy there was lots of talk about making serious changes, so what has changed to improve things ?

The number of crashes & near misses involving heavy trucks in the Interior area seems at a record high ?
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I vote to not deport him.
He didnt try to weasel his way out of anything.
He owned what he did. I respect that.
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I voted to deport him only out of presidence,
If we allow one imported criminal to stay in Canada, you just know others will use it as an example and weasel their way through the court system.

I still say his former boss is the real criminal.
No company should hire rookie drivers and throw them behind the wheel of a 120,000lb truck without any additional training.
I had 3 weeks of additional training with my first company and needed every moment of it.
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stuphoto wrote:I still say his former boss is the real criminal.

Bingo.
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Not sure how I feel so didn't vote.
I guess something that might push me to a deport was his Lawyer saying they want to raise their family in Canada
So did the parents who lost their Sons, the Sons who lost that chance.

Ok, I'm leaning to deport
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I sort of view deportation as additional punishment, after serving the sentence our court system imposed.

Double jeopardy so to speak which I don't feel is right.

If the objective is to deport the offender, then why have Canadian tax payers foot the bill for his incarceration? It would make more sense to immediately deport, as that would send a message to every other person living in Canada who isn't a citizen.
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Urban Cowboy wrote: It would make more sense to immediately deport.


Exactly! :up: :up:

Zero tolerance for serious offenders who are not Citizens. We don't need imported criminals as we have more than enough of our own.
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I don't think he is a criminal- he didn't mean to do it. That could have happened to any truck driver that was working those hours.
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Blowing through a Stop sign is never a good idea (specially since it’s a blind stop sign).
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I voted to deport him, he caused a massive loss of life and we should not offer him a privelege.
I know training has been brought up, and it is very important. How much more training did he need to learn to stop at a stop sign ?
IMHO the real problem was the lack of design and building at that intersection. Everything needed to improve safety at that intersection exists but was not installed.
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The stop sign for the trucker has a FLASHING RED LIGHT and another sign a couple of hundred meters before the intersection.
DEPORT him and his family and any other relatives trudeau let in with him.

https://www.citynews1130.com/video/2019 ... nd-missed/
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GordonH wrote:Blowing through a Stop sign is never a good idea (specially since it’s a blind stop sign).


Just to clarify, truckers view of traffic heading south was in clear view. This wasn’t the case of traffic heading north... hence why I said blind.
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My feeling is that yes it's a huge tragedy but he served his time & there's no reversing what happened.

The issue I have is, just how did he ever receive a Canadian Class 1 drivers licence & what has been done since this accident to insure we get better qualified drivers ?
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one wheel wrote:My feeling is that yes it's a huge tragedy but he served his time & there's no reversing what happened.

The issue I have is, just how did he ever receive a Canadian Class 1 drivers licence & what has been done since this accident to insure we get better qualified drivers ?


Even getting a basic D/L blowing through a stop sign is fail.
This is basic driving 101.

8 years for all loss of live, doesn’t seem like enough.
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GordonH wrote:Blowing through a Stop sign is never a good idea (specially since it’s a blind stop sign).


It was a very visible stop signs....There was already a major accident there before and they improved the warning signs to STOP......with a flash red light to STOP.

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The stop sign on highway 335 is seen at the intersection of highway 35 near Tisdale, Sask., Tuesday, April, 10, 2018.

STOP means STOP.

From the other direction.

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