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Merry wrote: Jun 28th, 2021, 1:28 pm The poop will hit the fan when Canadians realize that this Bill could increase their digital costs by as much as 47%, and limit their access to all kinds of foreign services, including things like BBC news.

This article explains how
https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2021/05/the ... -services/
It won't though.

You'd think it would hit the fan already because of the oil/gas prices and relationship with the Carbon tax. People still aren't outraged about the concept of a "tax to save the Earth"

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-c ... -emissions

We're 11th on the list of Global CO2 Emissions (and that doesn't even take into account illegal dumping, water pollution, overfishing, etc... for destroying the planet) and yet somehow people are fine with us being taxed to offset our emissions.

Even though the 3 biggest polluters (US, India and China) emit more than 36 TIMES the amount we do... we're supposed to make up for that?

No outrage over that, so I don't expect anyone to care if their favorite websites get banned, blocked or they have to pay a nominal fee to access stuff online.
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fvkasm2x wrote: Jul 2nd, 2021, 10:28 am
Merry wrote: Jun 28th, 2021, 1:28 pm The poop will hit the fan when Canadians realize that this Bill could increase their digital costs by as much as 47%, and limit their access to all kinds of foreign services, including things like BBC news.

This article explains how
https://www.michaelgeist.ca/2021/05/the ... -services/
It won't though.

You'd think it would hit the fan already because of the oil/gas prices and relationship with the Carbon tax. People still aren't outraged about the concept of a "tax to save the Earth"

https://www.ucsusa.org/resources/each-c ... -emissions

We're 11th on the list of Global CO2 Emissions (and that doesn't even take into account illegal dumping, water pollution, overfishing, etc... for destroying the planet) and yet somehow people are fine with us being taxed to offset our emissions.

Even though we the 3 biggest polluters emit more than 36 TIMES the amount we do... we're supposed to make up for that?

No outrage over that, so I don't expect anyone to care if their favorite websites get banned, blocked or they have to pay a nominal fee to access stuff online.
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Senate did not pass C10 before breaking for the summer. Excellent.
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It appears that Liberal senators are not enthusiastic to send their party into a potential summer election with the ‘stinking albatross’ of Trudeau’s censorship bill C-10 hanging over them. No doubt it will be back in some form if Canadians are foolish enough to keep the Liberals and their fellow leftist enablers in power. :-X
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"The recipe for a successful dictatorial regime would be incomplete without internal, silent policing of thought and action among citizenry. Creating a nation of subdued minds was forever at the top of the communist agenda."

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d0nb wrote: Jul 3rd, 2021, 8:45 pm It appears that Liberal senators are not enthusiastic to send their party into a potential summer election with the ‘stinking albatross’ of Trudeau’s censorship bill C-10 hanging over them. No doubt it will be back in some form if Canadians are foolish enough to keep the Liberals and their fellow leftist enablers in power. :-X
The C-10 bill is definitely one of many "stinking albatrosses" hanging around the Liberals pencil-necks. The Liberals are on the wrong side of history here for sure.

One can tell a lot about a person by the role models they choose, and Justin and the Liberals have picked some nasty characters in Mao, Fidel and Stalin.
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Rex is right on the money. When he speaks, people should listen.

Rex Murphy: Now Trudeau's Liberals are journalism instructors?


Guilbeault announced this week the release of a guide by an international working group, led by Canada, intended to promote diversity of content online. Among the guide’s principles is that “Ethical journalistic standards should be upheld and encouraged.”

Is this some large, grim joke? Is the heritage ministry now a journalism school? How did “heritage,” which by all standard meaning deals with preserving and elucidating stuff that has already happened, and in most cases long ago, mutate into umpire and judge of the daily information of the present?

The guide is ridiculously and insultingly prescriptive as it “aims to guide actions and measures that foster greater exposure to diverse cultural content, information and news online.” And who determines what constitutes that vague and contentious concept of “diverse cultural content?” Steven Guilbeault? The Canadian government?

And should you see “diverse cultural content” as a phrase inviting whatever meaning the government wishes to put on it, what about this twaddle: “A diverse, pluralistic, healthy and sustainable media ecosystem … should be fostered.”

The phrase itself is a warning. Whenever you see “ecosystem” in a government document that isn’t about trees, ants or David Attenborough chatting up a penguin, you know you’re being taken for a ride.

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Alarming, because a government that thinks its judgment is superior to the House of Commons, of which it is itself only a part, and which takes the Speaker of the House to court, will surely not decline to injure or contain the mere “free press.” The trek from issuing guidelines to issuing legislation and enforcement is neither long nor rocky.

Government placing its heavy foot in what news is and should be, and preparing to set the standards against which news must be measured, is more than a useful hint as to what is meant by that shudder-inducing phrase “building back better.”

A footnote. The COVID regime has given governments the strongest taste of full control they have had since war time. Odd, how frequently a taste becomes a diet.


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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jul 11th, 2021, 8:59 am Rex is right on the money. When he speaks, people should listen.

Rex Murphy: Now Trudeau's Liberals are journalism instructors?


Guilbeault announced this week the release of a guide by an international working group, led by Canada, intended to promote diversity of content online. Among the guide’s principles is that “Ethical journalistic standards should be upheld and encouraged.”

Is this some large, grim joke? Is the heritage ministry now a journalism school? How did “heritage,” which by all standard meaning deals with preserving and elucidating stuff that has already happened, and in most cases long ago, mutate into umpire and judge of the daily information of the present?

The guide is ridiculously and insultingly prescriptive as it “aims to guide actions and measures that foster greater exposure to diverse cultural content, information and news online.” And who determines what constitutes that vague and contentious concept of “diverse cultural content?” Steven Guilbeault? The Canadian government?

And should you see “diverse cultural content” as a phrase inviting whatever meaning the government wishes to put on it, what about this twaddle: “A diverse, pluralistic, healthy and sustainable media ecosystem … should be fostered.”

The phrase itself is a warning. Whenever you see “ecosystem” in a government document that isn’t about trees, ants or David Attenborough chatting up a penguin, you know you’re being taken for a ride.

snip

Alarming, because a government that thinks its judgment is superior to the House of Commons, of which it is itself only a part, and which takes the Speaker of the House to court, will surely not decline to injure or contain the mere “free press.” The trek from issuing guidelines to issuing legislation and enforcement is neither long nor rocky.

Government placing its heavy foot in what news is and should be, and preparing to set the standards against which news must be measured, is more than a useful hint as to what is meant by that shudder-inducing phrase “building back better.”

A footnote. The COVID regime has given governments the strongest taste of full control they have had since war time. Odd, how frequently a taste becomes a diet.


https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-mu ... nstructors
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There are no coincidences in Justin Trudeau's all out assault on the rights and freedoms our forefathers gave their lives for.

A dictatorial quest for unbridled power has Justin drunk thinking of the possibilities of a submissive, defenseless electorate.

No Coincidence the Liberals are Trying to Grab Guns While Taking Away Free Speech


One of the best arguments that firearm rights in Canada are absolutely fundamental freedoms and the government knows it, is the lockstep timing of the Liberals’ newest attacks on Canadian gun owners (Bill C-21) paired with their proposal for new legislation to undermine free speech rights (Bill C-36).

Governments don’t push out legislation in a random fashion, with each new bill having nothing to do with one another, rather everything proposed and passed around the same time tends to feed into the same immediate agenda. Clearly, the Liberals, and their NDP allies, recent agenda since the beginning of 2020, has been the consolidation of power over the Canadian public.

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It should also be noted that recently even a City News-created documentary pointed out that none of the regulations in C-21 would help with curbing gun smuggling or gang violence in any significant way. Especially since C-22, passed right after C-21, did away with many mandatory minimum sentences for gun-related crimes.

Now pair C-21 up with the latest anti-free speech legislation proposed just back on June 23, Bill C-36 which is such draconian “hate speech” legislation it would allow anonymous complaints of hate speech to cause someone to be hauled in front of the Human Rights Commission. That same anonymous person can even report you on the suspicion that they fear you may commit “hate speech” in the future and can place ridiculous restrictions on your behaviour, movement, and force you to submit to random drug tests.

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We are seeing a full assault on Canadians rights and freedoms and the government seems to know that undermining firearms rights just before hitting Canadians with authoritarian speech regulations is a necessary step in their centralization of powers in the federal government.


Just as the government has turned firearms ownership from what was an unquestionable freedom Canadians possessed more than a decade ago into a government-granted privilege, they are now doing the same to speech. Yes, you can still own guns and still speak freely, just as long as it doesn’t upset Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals’ left-wing sensibilities.

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Over the last 40 years, we've seen an increasing disregard on behalf of the government when it comes to fundamental rights. Whether it's property rights, free speech, or the completely reasonable idea that you can defend yourself from violent attacks, the government seems to put a significant amount of effort into convincing people they shouldn't have any rights at all. Unfortunately, many Canadians now agree with the government on this topic.

It would be proactive for those advocating against the ongoing Liberal gun-grabbing and strict regulations to make the well-evidenced case that firearms rights and free speech rights are connected, and even those Canadians who aren’t firearms owners have a stake in upholding the right to gun ownership in Canada.

If one fundamental freedom goes then the others will surely follow.

https://thenationaltelegraph.com/cultur ... ree-speech
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i have to say that c-51 makes me more uncomfortable than the c-10 whining.
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#TrudeauDictatorship trends after his Heritage Minister said tweets were 'undermining democracy'

62 percent of Canadians fear federal regulation of the internet will curb lawful speech, according to a July 5 survey by the Canadian Internet Registration Authority.



Twitter posts are “undermining Canada’s democracy,” said Canada’s Heritage Minister Steven Guilbeault in a briefing note, and now #TrudeauDictatorship is trending on the social media platform.

https://thepostmillennial.com/trudeaudi ... democracy/

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Mike Campbell wrote:A major blow to the anti-free speech crowd pushing Bill C-10 and Bill C-36

“In a free and democratic society, the exchange and expression of diverse and often controversial or unpopular ideas may cause discomfort. It is, in a sense, the price we pay for our freedom.” Once “governments begin to argue that the expression of some ideas are less valuable than others, we find ourselves on dangerous ground.”

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So now we learn that Guilbeault, Trudeau's censorship czar, and taxer of your Netflix account, owes a bucket of money for taxes that he failed to submit to Revenu Québec.

Any wonder he wanted to censor the internet before the election, so that we wouldn't find out that he's a disgraceful scofflaw?



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