Anti-Semitism in Canada - More Leftist hate

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Brass Monkey wrote: Sep 10th, 2021, 1:14 pm
rustled wrote: Sep 10th, 2021, 1:00 pm
Regardless of your intentions, the results here speak for themselves. Using loaded terms, presenting someone vile as representative of a people and inviting people to hate are ugly tactics.
Your refusal to condemn a Jewish supremacist is telling. Maybe anti-semitism grows with peoples attempt at normalizing Jewish supremacy.
I know nothing about him, other than that you've labeled him a Jewish supremacist and told me I should condemn him.

I won't condemn based on the word of anyone, let alone someone I don't trust to be completely truthful. Neither should anyone else, IMO.
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rustled wrote: Sep 10th, 2021, 12:03 pm I haven't condemned him because I have only the words of someone who seems to me to be very ready to condemn groups of people through the use racial stereotypes and bigotry and intolerance - someone who expects me to hate him - on which to base that condemnation. It's interesting to me that you've chosen to criticize me for not condemning him on your word alone. How quickly you've reverted to asking me to join you in hating someone I do not know nor understand.
Not once did I blame Jews. I blamed radical Jewish supremacists who are emboldened by an affiliate government.

If you do not know or understand the phenomenon of Jewish Supremacy then maybe you aren’t up to task to discuss the realities of anti-semitism and how it blends with the Israel-Palestine conflict.
And knowing my ignorance, I choose NOT to follow you blindly into condemnation and hatred. While it does not surprise me that you continue to criticize my choice, I do find it sad.
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rustled wrote: Sep 10th, 2021, 12:03 pm Perhaps, then, the problem is in your own perspective - the perspective that assumes everyone chooses who to condemn based on stereotypes, prejudices and bigotry. You believe Yonatan belongs in a "group", and once you've established for the rest of us which group he is in, we should be prepared to condemn him, too?
Yonatan does belong to a group, he is a sitting member of the Jerusalem City Council. Yonatan is one of many who believe that the forcible removable of non-Jews from Israel has been ordained by a divine power.
rustled wrote: Sep 10th, 2021, 12:03 pm IMO, that is precisely how intolerance and prejudice works to build hate in the world. I want no part of it.
Then you should have no qualms in condemning the supremacist philosophies of men like Yonatan Yosef.
Any rational person should have qualms condemning anything or anyone of which they are admittedly ignorant. Particularly when they are being urged to do so through anonymous postings on an internet forum by someone with a history of being quick to judge people they don't know, and to share half-truths in the defence of their own intolerances and bigotries.

It seems likely to me this is where much of the anti-Semitism in Canada is coming from - those urging the ignorant not to understand, but to condemn.
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rustled wrote: Sep 10th, 2021, 1:23 pm Particularly when they are being urged to do so through anonymous postings on an internet forum by someone with a history of being quick to judge people they don't know, and to share half-truths in the defence of their own intolerances and bigotries.
Yes, there certainly seems to be a bago bigotries at play here from those on the Left and a lot of intolerance when it comes to Jewish people. It's like these people are just seething with pure evil. It's not hard to see, when you look at the hate being expressed here by far Left anti-semites, how things like the Holocaust happen and how they are justified. It's just so gross.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 11th, 2021, 5:53 am Yes, there certainly seems to be a bago bigotries at play here from those on the Left and a lot of intolerance when it comes to Jewish people. It's like these people are just seething with pure evil. It's not hard to see, when you look at the hate being expressed here by far Left anti-semites, how things like the Holocaust happen and how they are justified. It's just so gross.
Can you pick out any anti-Semitic comments in this thread?

The Holocaust was perpetrated by right-wing fascists who convinced a particular group of people that they were the supreme people and they are the rightful holders of the land. Sort of like radical Zionist’s and their belief that they are God’s “chosen people”.
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Brass Monkey wrote: Sep 11th, 2021, 9:40 am

Can you pick out any anti-Semitic comments in this thread?

All of your anti-Israel garbage and lies are anti-Semitic and just seething with true evil. The Holocaust couldn't have happened without there being a lot of people on the Left who stood by and did nothing, thanks to their rabid hatred of Jews. A rabid hatred from the Left that still lives on today, as we see with the Green Party in Canada. Just so gross.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 12th, 2021, 5:33 am All of your anti-Israel garbage and lies are anti-Semitic and just seething with true evil. The Holocaust couldn't have happened without there being a lot of people on the Left who stood by and did nothing, thanks to their rabid hatred of Jews. A rabid hatred from the Left that still lives on today, as we see with the Green Party in Canada. Just so gross.
Condemning Israel’s violations of human rights isn't anti-semitism

It was soldiers of the left-wing USSR that stormed Berlin in 1945 and dealt the killing blow to the right-wing fascist empire that was persecuting Jews.

You neither know history or what anti-semitism is, Jews do not appreciate your faux social justice.
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https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/34 ... e-backlash

Really belongs in both this topic AND the Election topic.

Shows the antisemitism is strong in the left. The Greens try to take out their leader, Jewish, and an NDP candidate asks if "Auschwitz was a real place".
At least Jagmeet did the right thing. However, vetting should be upgraded in his new world order party. :smt045
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JagXKR wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 7:20 am Shows the antisemitism is strong in the left. The Greens try to take out their leader, Jewish, and an NDP candidate asks if "Auschwitz was a real place".
At least Jagmeet did the right thing. However, vetting should be upgraded in his new world order party. :smt045
The kid was 16 when he tweeted it. Did you never do anything stupid as a teenager? I did and so did many people I know. Called growing up.
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Sparki55 wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 7:27 am
The kid was 16 when he tweeted it. Did you never do anything stupid as a teenager? I did and so did many people I know. Called growing up.
So this person started at the bottom and went down in life. Yikes.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 11:37 am
Sparki55 wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 7:27 am
The kid was 16 when he tweeted it. Did you never do anything stupid as a teenager? I did and so did many people I know. Called growing up.
So this person started at the bottom and went down in life. Yikes.
I think that's a little unfair to him.

To me, if we have 16-year-olds in school in Canada asking that question - particularly a 16-year-old who's politically engaged enough to run for office two years later - this shows us our public education system is a complete and total failure.
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rustled wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 12:07 pm

I think that's a little unfair to him.

To me, if we have 16-year-olds in school in Canada asking that question - particularly a 16-year-old who's politically engaged enough to run for office two years later - this shows us our public education system is a complete and total failure.
Great point Rustled. When you have someone this young being some corrupted by hate, it's not just all on him. Many horrible people had to also play a part in this tragedy.
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Ha! If the guy cant spin his way out of that he shouldnt be in politics anyway. Amateur, should have taken a page out of the PMs playbook
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Sparki55 wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 7:27 am The kid was 16 when he tweeted it. Did you never do anything stupid as a teenager? I did and so did many people I know. Called growing up.
But Jagmeet wants those same 16 year olds to be able to vote so your assertion and deflection is at odds with the "vision" of the NDP.
https://www.insauga.com/ndp-pledges-to- ... age-to-16/
Singh suggested reducing the voting age to 16 would help foster a culture of voting among young Canadians that would help increase voter turnout among the demographic.
So is it that 16 year olds are too stupid to know better or that they know better and should be able to vote? Either way the antisemitic candidate resigned and Jameet approved it.
Regardless of the age since Jagmeet believes 16 year olds can make proper decisions. :200: :135:
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JagXKR wrote: Sep 16th, 2021, 2:55 pm But Jagmeet wants those same 16 year olds to be able to vote so your assertion and deflection is at odds with the "vision" of the NDP.
A fact related to the discussion is not a deflection. Had I said "look over here, this guy did something worse", you would then be correct. I'm also not an NDP supporter nor do I agree with lowering the voting age.
JagXKR wrote: Sep 16th, 2021, 2:55 pm So is it that 16 year olds are too stupid to know better or that they know better and should be able to vote? Either way the antisemitic candidate resigned and Jameet approved it.
Regardless of the age since Jagmeet believes 16 year olds can make proper decisions. :200: :135:
We won't be lowering the voting age. Most kids at 16 are barely responsible enough to start driving, NVM paying attention to politics in any capacity.
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Just a reminder from the archives.
Canada apologises for turning away Jewish refugee ship in 1939

Published 7 November 2018

Canada's PM Justin Trudeau has apologised for his country's role in turning away a ship carrying over 900 Jewish refugees fleeing persecution.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46105488

In 1939, German liner the MS St Louis sailed to Havana, Cuba, but that country's government refused them entry, although they had visas.

The US and Canada also blocked them, denying the passengers safe haven.

The ship was forced to return to Europe and 254 of the refugees later died in Nazi concentration camps.

Addressing Canada's parliament, Mr Trudeau spoke of how the Liberal government of the day "was unmoved by the plight of these refugees".

"The government chose to turn its back on these innocent victims of Hitler's regime," he said.

Canada's refusal was indicative of its restrictive rules towards Jewish immigration at the time.

"Bitter resentment towards Jews were enshrined in our policies," said the prime minister on Wednesday.

During the 12-year Nazi regime in Germany, from 1933 to 1945, Canada accepted fewer Jewish refugees than any other Western nation.

A senior Canadian immigration official, asked during the war about how many Jews would eventually be considered for entry into Canada, had a now infamous response: "None is too many."

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(Conclusion)

American authorities have called the attack on the (Tree of Life) synagogue (in Pittsburgh) the worst anti-Semitic incident in US history.

Mr Trudeau touched on the tragedy as he condemned ongoing anti-Semitic attitudes in Canada and around the world.

"This was heinous anti-Semitic act of violence," he said. "These tragic events ultimately attest to the work we still have to do."
And we need to remain vigilant on all fronts.

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