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And our town — surprisingly for a little hick farming town — it’s very diverse. There’s a lot of different people in this community. I just decided to make my case for neutrality.”

Bakker indicated she would have raised the same concerns if the plans were for “a Buddhist crosswalk or a Black Lives Matter crosswalk.”

She said she has planned a community get-together with the hope of uniting the town regardless of how different people feel about the plebiscite and the results.
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Gee whiz...sounds pretty non specific to me.
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How unfair it is to "Label" these crosswalks as LGBTQ??
Anybody bother to ask the crosswalk how it identifies?
Maybe it just identifies as crosswalk, not gendered by some group.
Who are we to force our actions/thoughts onto some poor crosswalk.
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What would really help is the takeaway from the community get together.
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It's interesting how council conflated providing access for people who couldn't otherwise access a playground or a building - which of course is practical and inclusive - with using symbolism to provide emotional support for people who struggle emotionally - which is impractical and leads not to genuine inclusivity but to the faux "inclusivity" of dividing members of a community into "oppressed" with labels, stereotypes and bigotry.

It also has the effect of assuring the "oppressed" they should be upset if they're not given special symbols as signs of "welcome" - because the symbolism of a crosswalk or a flag should matter more than reality. Which of course is bunk.

This sounds to me like someone with emotional needs looking for reasons to be triggered and outraged:
“I left Morinville as a queer kid because I knew I’d never be able to be myself,” he recalled. “And when I came to the University of Alberta … there were days at the University of Alberta where it was ‘No Jeans Day.’ And you know what ‘No Jeans Day’ meant? If you put on jeans it meant you supported the LGBT community. It meant you were queer. So there were entire days where entire faculties wouldn’t wear jeans.”
Governments dividing people into special interest groups for "greater representation" in a misguided attempt to help emotionally insecure folk feel "welcome" has never worked out well.
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rustled wrote: Feb 24th, 2024, 9:09 am It's interesting how council conflated providing access for people who couldn't otherwise access a playground or a building - which of course is practical and inclusive - with using symbolism to provide emotional support for people who struggle emotionally - which is impractical and leads not to genuine inclusivity but to the faux "inclusivity" of dividing members of a community into "oppressed" with labels, stereotypes and bigotry.

It also has the effect of assuring the "oppressed" they should be upset if they're not given special symbols as signs of "welcome" - because the symbolism of a crosswalk or a flag should matter more than reality. Which of course is bunk.

This sounds to me like someone with emotional needs looking for reasons to be triggered and outraged:
“I left Morinville as a queer kid because I knew I’d never be able to be myself,” he recalled. “And when I came to the University of Alberta … there were days at the University of Alberta where it was ‘No Jeans Day.’ And you know what ‘No Jeans Day’ meant? If you put on jeans it meant you supported the LGBT community. It meant you were queer. So there were entire days where entire faculties wouldn’t wear jeans.”
Governments dividing people into special interest groups for "greater representation" in a misguided attempt to help emotionally insecure folk feel "welcome" has never worked out well.
:up: :up: :up: Great post. Impossible to argue. Anyone ever figure out how many different flag poles would need to fly every ones claim to needing special recognition daily in their lives to live?
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rustled wrote: Feb 24th, 2024, 9:09 am This sounds to me like someone with emotional needs looking for reasons to be triggered and outraged:
maybe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekYosvzMk78

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LOL. I suppose there may have been folk who were constantly in a state of heightened enthrallment with "how people think about my gender" before social media (the great enabler). Doesn't seem at all healthy to me. It's certainly not doing us much good as communities to have our councils try to figure out how to appease all these special interest groups, and perhaps once councils get past worrying "what will voters think if we don't support the narrative" they will be relieved to be able to focus squarely on addressing the solvable issues people in their community want them to address.
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liisgo wrote: Feb 24th, 2024, 12:30 pm

:up: :up: :up: Great post. Impossible to argue. Anyone ever figure out how many different flag poles would need to fly every ones claim to needing special recognition daily in their lives to live?
and what I find especially stupid - if for whatever reason you don't bow to "fill in the blank" special interest group, including flying their flag and showing up for their public demonstration/parade etc, then immediately, half wits start screaming "hate!!" and claim that because their flag wasn't flown or even worse, someone dared question the reams of insanity flowing from their lips, that they are now engaging in a "war on fill in the blank". This is the stupidity level of these fill in the blank special interests, and if they can't tell yet, most people have had enough of their bull :cuss:.
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fluffy wrote: Feb 24th, 2024, 5:06 am There's a lot of territory between "advertising" and recognition. The rainbow symbols are about more than just pride, they're about recognizing groups that have been persecuted for sexual orientation that do not fit other peoples' idea of "normal". Bylaws that target those symbols specifically are just another form of that persecution. You will not convince me that they come from any place but hate and intolerance.
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seewood wrote: Feb 24th, 2024, 1:01 pm
rustled wrote: Feb 24th, 2024, 9:09 am This sounds to me like someone with emotional needs looking for reasons to be triggered and outraged:
maybe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekYosvzMk78

Another letter to the alphabet soup.
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Is there anywhere that flies a “ gender fluid flag” . Is there anywhere that has a “ gender fluid “ crosswalk ?
Pretty messed up , counselling is in order .
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George Orwell 1984 wrote: Feb 24th, 2024, 2:58 pm Is there anywhere that flies a “ gender fluid flag” . Is there anywhere that has a “ gender fluid “ crosswalk ?
Pretty messed up , counselling is in order .
George, there's simply not enough councillors in this world for all the effed up people.
But in the meantime, maybe this will help.

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=72970&p=3302219#p3302219
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Babba_not_Gump wrote: Feb 24th, 2024, 3:09 pm
George Orwell 1984 wrote: Feb 24th, 2024, 2:58 pm Is there anywhere that flies a “ gender fluid flag” . Is there anywhere that has a “ gender fluid “ crosswalk ?
Pretty messed up , counselling is in order .
George, there's simply not enough councillors in this world for all the effed up people.
But in the meantime, maybe this will help.

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=72970&p=3302219#p3302219
Well , my goodness best call out the engineering department for the city hall roof . A lot of structural changes are in order to support all those flag poles . Best to account for 50 more or so while we are at it.
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Bigbacardi wrote: Feb 24th, 2024, 8:45 am How unfair it is to "Label" these crosswalks as LGBTQ??
Anybody bother to ask the crosswalk how it identifies?
Maybe it just identifies as crosswalk, not gendered by some group.
Who are we to force our actions/thoughts onto some poor crosswalk.
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How I miss Japan….where crosswalks are clearly marked in white, inviting everyone who wishes to cross the street can do so without need of special colours.

The crosswalks identify as crosswalks, nothing more, nothing less.

Just people crossing.

End of story.
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