Alberta

[raft-cove]

Sounds more like you made changes to accommodate a new time of your life, most do. These changes have nothing to do with supporting ones belief in climate change. My mom made all the same moves recently. And a need to claim being the believer in climate change contributes absolutely zero to the quest. That's the problem with the liberalist of today. Its a claim that they need to shout about, not be an example.
If all liberalist did an actual contributing amount of honoring their own claim to virtue, then a very reasonable amount of effect should be observed. And that certainly hasn't been recognized or collected as proven data.
So the question is, those claiming to be part of the solution, but only spending their precious time making virtue claims of such, and challenging everyone else without knowing their amount of contribution, what are they actually in this for?

It is what I said it is. The opportunities were there so I took advantage of them. My big complaint is with people who feel that "business as usual" is still a responsible option when they have options to reduce their carbon footprint. Now if it helps you massage your conscience over doing nothing by criticizing my choices, go right ahead, just don't expect me to take you seriously.

Looks like Alberta's energy production and exports just became more important than ever. War breaking out in Middle East. Global oil inventories in shambles, supply now precarious. News will be "Energy Shortages" and $100 oil.

[raft-cove]

"business as usual" comments from peanut gallery of Leftist voters.

You guys have zero idea of what Canada would look like without its Energy sector.

Could send us into economic collapse, no matter how many farmer's markets you propose.


You want to see what collapse looks like? Check out your idols in Venezuela:

https://time.com/longform/venezuela-hun ... ra-zavala/

[raft-cove]

Looking forward to the next quarter when the trans mountain pipeline begins filling with 4.5 million barrels of much needed CANADIAN oil ! Finally Canada will see a higher value for our natural resources with markets opening along the us west coast and Asia.

Here's hoping. The US has had a stranglehold on our oil exports for far too long.

Did they?

Or was Canada too backward to establish new trade routes?

Americans just cashing in on our Virtuous Signalling. Can't blame them.

[fluffy]

You guys have zero idea of what Canada would look like without its Energy sector.

Those of limited vision equate Canada's energy sector with fossil fuels only. The deleterious effects of burning fossil fuels for energy are fact, plain and simple. That discussion is over for all but the most stubbornly ignorant, a group which apparently includes Danielle Smith, who saw fit to throw the province's thriving alternative energy sector into limbo. Talk about zero ideas.

[liisgo]

Reduce the practice of burning fossil fuels for energy. It's not higher math.

So tell us how you have done this. Cause up to know the most vocal on this issue have never once contributed to their virtue signaling on this issue. Have you done anything? Seriously.

I drive a fraction of the amount I did a few years ago, I'd guess about 30% now than in the past. Unnecessary trips to the coast, even from here in Penticton to Kelowna are gone. Haven't been to Vancouver in a couple of years even though I love spending time there. The "Costco Runs" are down to once every two or three months instead of every couple of weeks. I deliberately sought out electric heat when I changed homes last year, and looked for a new home within walking distance of a lot of frequent needs. I'll buy local produce whenever possible, and shy away from over-packaged products. Now before you write these small efforts off as inconsequential, consider the cumulative impact of everybody doing a little bit to help. It's up to us as individuals to do our part, even if it seems ineffectual. Seriously, do you want to be a little part of the solution, or remain a little part of the problem ?

All it needs is a willingness to look to see that the way we have been doing things is putting our collection futures at greater and greater risk, and a willingness to seriously consider the question of whether or not short term profits are worth the trade-off in terms of contributing to environmental decay.

Putting one's individual prosperity ahead of society's overall health is not uncommon, but on close analysis it is pretty selfish. Call it "virtue signalling" if you will, but in my opinion that, along with the lion's share of name calling and insult that passes for "discussion" here, is just a ploy to side-step personal responsibility. To them, it's "me" first, "we" later.

fluffy, thats the whole point, the most vocal, the liberalist government and its supporters have created propaganda that side steps all what they themselves should be doing. Setting an example, contributing to prove data can be changed. But instead, they, you speak of only others. Day in day out. Always talking and worried about making sure others claim virtue on the subject. Always saying the commitment of change needs to be upon only the select few. Why, just once cant a liberalist, talk all day long on showing everyone else actual proof of an examples. How they are making the changes necessary to support their constant virtue signalling. Which is all it is if not a single once of example and change is being made at their own level.
And to bring to this forum, statements of insults. Come on, really, this whole tactic came to this country via the hands of the very same. Trudeau's liberalist movement.
The alberta government is far ahead of this behavior of claiming righteousness, they are actually building structure to achieve goals, not constantly looking at their neighbours for that change and example.
Liberalism, as of today have never proven a virtue signal, to be success.

[rustled]

The alberta government is far ahead of this behavior of claiming righteousness, they are actually building structure to achieve goals, not constantly looking at their neighbours for that change and example.

[Babba_not_Gump]

Here's hoping. The US has had a stranglehold on our oil exports for far too long.

Did they?

Or was Canada too backward to establish new trade routes?

Americans just cashing in on our Virtuous Signalling. Can't blame them.

It's the Americans taking advantage of our infighting.
Quebec has shut the door on oil going to Eastern refineries.
And from what I recently heard there is less than 100 kms for the pipelines to tie in and become truly Canada wide.

[Catsumi]

Did they?

Or was Canada too backward to establish new trade routes?

Americans just cashing in on our Virtuous Signalling. Can't blame them.

It's the Americans taking advantage of our infighting.
Quebec has shut the door on oil going to Eastern refineries.
And from what I recently heard there is less than 100 kms for the pipelines to tie in and become truly Canada wide.

Great! Just skip by Quebec as they’ve only wanted to be a part of Canada for the rich transfer payments they receive from the RoC. Serve them right if they were bypassed and the payments stopped.

[fluffy]

But instead, they, you speak of only others. Day in day out.

You mean like the way some mange to bring everything back to Trudeau without ever a thought to their personal responsibility ? Everybody gets a voice pal, it's called democracy. It's up to each of us who we pay attention to.

[George Orwell 1984]

But instead, they, you speak of only others. Day in day out.

You mean like the way some mange to bring everything back to Trudeau without ever a thought to their personal responsibility ? Everybody gets a voice pal, it's called democracy. It's up to each of us who we pay attention to.

Gee that would be because Alberta’s problems and all of Canada’s problems come from one source - the buck stops at justin. Funny how that works

[fluffy]

Gee that would be because Alberta’s problems and all of Canada’s problems come from one source - the buck stops at justin. Funny how that works

And that would come from where ? Your deep and encyclopedic knowledge of all things political and economic, or what you hear from his politcal opponents ? Funny how that works.

[liisgo]

But instead, they, you speak of only others. Day in day out.

You mean like the way some mange to bring everything back to Trudeau without ever a thought to their personal responsibility ? Everybody gets a voice pal, it's called democracy. It's up to each of us who we pay attention to.

But thats what a new woke liberalist party and its people are all about isn't it. Never being accountable for their own responsibility. And why don't liberalist pay attention to themselves first? Again, this discussion and others similar are always about liberalists. They are keeping us from moving forward on anything because they are to busy virtue signalling and making claims about themselves instead of provided example's to the people. Like Trudeau, horrible example of anything he says. People attacking Alberta and Smith really should be making their mark by representing themselves first, but they cant.

[George Orwell 1984]

Gee that would be because Alberta’s problems and all of Canada’s problems come from one source - the buck stops at justin. Funny how that works

And that would come from where ? Your deep and encyclopedic knowledge of all things political and economic, or what you hear from his politcal opponents ? Funny how that works.

Yes

[fluffy]

Again, this discussion and others similar are always about liberalists. They are keeping us from moving forward on anything because they are to busy virtue signalling and making claims about themselves instead of provided example's to the people.

Just what are progressives "keeping us from moving forward" on?

[liisgo]

Again, this discussion and others similar are always about liberalists. They are keeping us from moving forward on anything because they are to busy virtue signalling and making claims about themselves instead of provided example's to the people.

Just what are progressives "keeping us from moving forward" on?

Every thing, every issue we face. From balanced budgets, to controlling crime. To freedom of speech. To a realistic energy transition. The new woke liberalism party of Canada is the reason everything is failing. Virtue signalling and claiming righteousness is not success. Its keeping us from achieving it.
The obvious correct fact that liberalism has destroyed our country is clear to everyone by now. And the most proof is the fact that not a single liberal is an example of what they preach. Unless you have an example.