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marooned wrote: Sep 13th, 2021, 2:05 pm
JagXKR wrote: Jul 12th, 2021, 10:59 am “The single rats that we find in Alberta have usually come from B.C. and they've hitched rides on vehicles or recreation vehicles to the province,” said Wickerson.
Funny how the opposite is also true. Most rats we find here in the Okanagan usually come from Alberta, riding on vehicles or rec vehicles into BC! :biggrin:
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I don't remember this anti-Alberta sentiment when I was a kid. What's this based on; is it jealousy (serious question)?
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Rejigger wrote: Sep 14th, 2021, 1:58 pm I don't remember this anti-Alberta sentiment when I was a kid. What's this based on; is it jealousy (serious question)?
Here's my theory. There are a few things contributing to that sentiment, some of them earned, others not so much.

Pandemic Response: The first big resurgence of the virus locally was attributed to Albertan tourists flooding into Kelowna for the May long weekend last year. BC had been doing very well reducing the infection rate and was just coming out of lock down while Alberta had been slow out of the gate in its pandemic response. Albertans were painted as "carriers" of the second wave in the Okanagan. Whether or not this was earned is debatable, British Columbians were just as happy as anyone to leave the restrictions behind at that point, but the word in the street was that the wave came from outside.

Conservative Culture: Self explanatory really, it's the right/left thing in spades between the two provinces, each of which holds a majority political leaning from a different end of the spectrum.

Oil & Gas: An industry that drives the Canadian economy and at the same time drives our globally diminishing reputation of environmental responsibility. Pick a side.

Entitlement: Albertans in general have benefited hugely economically from the oil & gas boom in the province, in particular oil sands development. With the slap down that industry has taken since the price crash in 2014/15 the number of people reaping those benefits has shrunk considerably, and those still benefiting are not doing it as much as in the past. There is a tendency among Albertans to point a finger of blame at others, most notably the Liberal government and the environmental lobby, for taking away what they see as rightfully theirs. Take that for what you will, but Albertans are seen from outside as willing to throw the environment under the bus for the sake of their own pocketbooks, just as many people from outside the province seem willing to show some smug satisfaction at Alberta's misfortunes. That might be the jealousy you spoke of.
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A reality check on Alberta's path to the devastating 4th wave of COVID

Premier Jason Kenney promised Albertans the "best summer ever."

The pandemic was ending and the province was reopening "for good."

The Alberta premier's optimistic prediction came in the early days of summer. But as the season wound down, Kenney — who faced harsh criticism for vacationing as COVID-19 cases surged — returned from holidays to plead with unvaccinated Albertans to get their jabs.

The United Conservative Party premier even dangled a $100 incentive for unvaccinated Albertans to get protected against the disease.

That was almost two weeks ago.

In the meantime, COVID-19 cases have soared, the province's ICUs have filled and public anger has swelled.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/a ... li=AAggNb9
For most Albertans, the next provincial election and the return of Notley can’t come soon enough.
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I should qualify my post above with the fact that just about all of my exposure to Alberta and Albertans in the last ten years has been in a camp environment, with some incidental exposure to to the hospitality and retail sectors while commuting back and forth to BC.
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Record-high COVID-19 patients in Alberta's ICUs for a second day, and numbers expected to rise

For the second day in a row, a record-high number of COVID-19 patients were being treated in Alberta’s ICUs on Tuesday.

There were 212 people sickened by the novel coronavirus needing intensive care — occupying 71 per cent of Alberta’s ICU beds — up 10 from Monday morning, the province’s public data shows. Nineteen more people are being treated for COVID-19 in hospital than the day before; 822 overall, including those in ICU.

Another nine COVID-19 deaths were reported since Monday. This deadly disease has killed 2,471 Albertans in total.

New infections and active cases are still rising rapidly in Alberta. Testing confirmed another 1,434 cases on Monday and active cases have jumped to 18,265. The Edmonton area has the highest number of cases than any other health zone at 5,323, followed by the Calgary area at 5,136.

Cases and hospitalizations have rapidly risen since the beginning of the fourth wave mid-July, driven largely by the unvaccinated, and the Delta variant.

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Shouldn't be surprising, given the high number of Albertans in the Okanagan while our cases were rising.
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It's not surprising at all. Kenney's handling of the pandemic has been disasterous.
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rustled wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 10:52 am Shouldn't be surprising, given the high number of Albertans in the Okanagan while our cases were rising.
From the BC CDC website, the very light blue colour indicates the source being from inter-provincial travel. The predominant colours are medium blue and dark blue. Unless I'm colour blind (which I may be?).
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Rejigger wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 11:08 am
rustled wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 10:52 am Shouldn't be surprising, given the high number of Albertans in the Okanagan while our cases were rising.
From the BC CDC website, the very light blue colour indicates the source being from inter-provincial travel. The predominant colours are medium blue and dark blue. Unless I'm colour blind (which I may be?).
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That's them bringing it to us, though - would we not expect a jump in the cases they took home with them after vacationing in BC's covid-fertile Kelowna?
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rustled wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 11:18 am That's them bringing it to us, though - would we not expect a jump in the cases they took home with them after vacationing in BC's covid-fertile Kelowna?
Yes, you're right. I should check out what the Alberta CDC website shows as sources for infection in Alberta. Thanks for clarifying my misunderstanding.
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Rejigger wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 11:26 am
rustled wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 11:18 am That's them bringing it to us, though - would we not expect a jump in the cases they took home with them after vacationing in BC's covid-fertile Kelowna?
Yes, you're right. I should check out what the Alberta CDC website shows as sources for infection in Alberta. Thanks for clarifying my misunderstanding.
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No worries - I'll watch for what you find. Their "return from visiting BC's covid central" may not be the smoking gun after all.
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I can't find the specific data of infection sources.

I found this, though. Most deaths are of elderly, as usual. (presentation is wonky, unable to fix it)

This virus is making it easy for me to plan for retirement.

Date reported AHS Zone Gender Age group Case status Case type

2021-08-01 Calgary Zone Male 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-01 North Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-04 South Zone Male 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-04 Calgary Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-04 South Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-04 South Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-05 South Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-07 Edmonton Zone Female 30-39 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-09 North Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-09 Edmonton Zone Male 40-49 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-09 South Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-09 Central Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-10 South Zone Male 60-69 years Died Probable
2021-08-12 Edmonton Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-13 Central Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-13 Central Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-13 Central Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-13 Central Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-13 North Zone Female 50-59 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-15 North Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-15 Edmonton Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-16 Central Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-16 Edmonton Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-16 South Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-17 Edmonton Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-17 North Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-17 South Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-18 South Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-18 South Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-18 Central Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-19 South Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-19 Calgary Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-19 Edmonton Zone Male 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-19 North Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-19 Central Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-19 Edmonton Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-20 South Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-20 Edmonton Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-20 Central Zone Male 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-20 Edmonton Zone Male 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-21 South Zone Male 40-49 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-21 Edmonton Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-21 North Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-22 North Zone Female 50-59 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-22 Calgary Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-22 Central Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-23 Edmonton Zone Female 30-39 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-23 North Zone Male 50-59 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-23 South Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-23 North Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-23 Central Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-23 Edmonton Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-24 South Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-24 Central Zone Male 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-24 South Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-24 Calgary Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-24 Calgary Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-24 Calgary Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-24 Central Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-24 Calgary Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-24 Calgary Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-25 Calgary Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-25 Edmonton Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-25 Calgary Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-25 Edmonton Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-25 Edmonton Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-25 Edmonton Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-26 Central Zone Male 80+ years Died Probable
2021-08-26 North Zone Female 50-59 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-26 Calgary Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-26 South Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-26 South Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-26 Central Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-27 North Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-27 Calgary Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-27 Edmonton Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-27 South Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-27 Edmonton Zone Female 30-39 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-28 Edmonton Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-28 North Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-28 Central Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-28 Central Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-28 South Zone Female 50-59 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-29 South Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-29 Central Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-29 South Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-29 Edmonton Zone Female 50-59 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-29 South Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-29 South Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-29 Edmonton Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-30 Edmonton Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-30 South Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-30 Central Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-30 South Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-30 North Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-31 North Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-31 North Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-31 Central Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-08-31 Calgary Zone Male 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-08-31 North Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-01 South Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-01 Edmonton Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-01 South Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-01 South Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-02 North Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-02 South Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-02 South Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-02 Calgary Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-02 South Zone Female 40-49 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-02 South Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-03 Central Zone Male 80+ years Died Probable
2021-09-03 North Zone Female 50-59 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-03 Calgary Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-03 Calgary Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-03 North Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-04 Edmonton Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-04 Calgary Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-04 North Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-04 Central Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-04 Calgary Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-04 Calgary Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-04 Calgary Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-05 Edmonton Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-05 Calgary Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-06 South Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-06 North Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-07 South Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-08 Calgary Zone Female 70-79 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-08 South Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-08 Central Zone Female 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-08 North Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-09 South Zone Female 20-29 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-10 Calgary Zone Male 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-10 Central Zone Male 60-69 years Died Confirmed
2021-09-10 Edmonton Zone Female 80+ years Died Confirmed
2021-09-10 Calgary Zone Male 70-79 years Died Confirmed

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Septuagenarian wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 12:28 pmMaybe, but are you able to post a link to the source?
Exactly. Who ended up dying or hospitalized tells us nothing about the source of the infection. How many people did it pass between before it ended up killing someone ? And by how much did it multiply along the way ?
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Septuagenarian wrote: Sep 15th, 2021, 12:28 pm Maybe, but are you able to post a link to the source?
It's from the Alberta Government website link that you provided in your previous post up there, under the 'Data Export' tab.^

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