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George Orwell 1984 wrote: Nov 28th, 2023, 4:56 pm Congratulations Premier Smith and Dow - The Alberta Advantage

https://calgaryherald.com/opinion/colum ... al-project
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 28th, 2023, 3:22 pm
Jonrox wrote: Nov 28th, 2023, 1:19 pm
As much as Smith's base believes common sense is the answer for everything, issues like this which encompass decisions with global implications involving cutting edge science and technology, volatile commodities markets, and complex political agendas involving the world's biggest and most powerful governments... common sense just doesn't cut it... lol.

To believe common sense is enough to guide strategies on something this complex is simply childish.

Even Poilievre says he won't withdraw Canada from the Paris Agreement. It puzzles me why some conservatives are choosing to follow Smith's lead rather than Poilievre's on so many issues.

Smith is only concerned with scoring political points with her base. She's playing Go Fish while her counterparts are playing Go.
Totally wrong Jonrox!
Really? I’m siding with Poilievre and his beliefs that Alberta should stay in the CPP and that Canada should stay in the Paris Agreement. Are you suggesting he’s wrong on both accounts?
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 28th, 2023, 10:17 am
erinmore3775 wrote: Nov 28th, 2023, 10:10 am

Could it be that the Smith government believes that conflict with the federal government plays better with their base than cooperation.
Or could it be that Alberta has figured out what anyone who can do math already knows - "clean energy" is a giant rip-off and a massive waste of taxpayer dollars, all being spent in the name of fighting something that doesn't even exist.
Nuclear falls under ‘clean energy’ but I hope you’re not including it in your statement. I hope this Premier makes a statement on it soon too.
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westbeach wrote: Nov 28th, 2023, 6:28 pm
Nuclear falls under ‘clean energy’ but I hope you’re not including it in your statement. I hope this Premier makes a statement on it soon too.
Good point - I think nuclear is great - while wind and solar are dirty stupid wastes of taxpayer money. Total garbage.
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Alberta unveils carbon capture and storage incentive to help decarbonize Canada

(Reuters) - Canada's main oil-producing province Alberta on Tuesday said it would provide a 12% grant on eligible capital costs associated with building new carbon capture utilization and storage (CCUS) projects to help industry cut emissions that cause climate change.

The incentive from Alberta, which the provincial government has been working on since January, comes on top of a federal government CCUS tax credit announced last year and is designed to spur investment in the costly technology.

Canada, the world's fourth-largest oil producer, is aiming to cut carbon emissions 40-45% below 2005 levels by 2030 but will struggle to hit that target without significant reductions from Alberta, the country's oil and gas heartland and highest-polluting province.

Alberta Energy Minister Brian Jean said CCUS is the "only viable option" to cut emissions of hard-to-abate industries, such as oil and gas, cement and petrochemicals.

"Not only will this technology help preserve our position as a major bitumen producer, but our whole economy will depend on CCUS for large volumes of reduced emissions reductions," Jean told a news conference.
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstor ... f156&ei=20

I liked how Reuters called Alberta the "highest polluting province" - how is that? CO2 is NOT a pollutant, and anyone calling it that is a fraudulent piece of garbage.
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It is funny how co-operation between the federal government and Alberta on efforts to reduce Greenhouse Gas and Carbon Capture and Sequestering are often overshadowed by partisan statements released to placate a political base. This is certainly true for the government support of the Pathways project.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government is aiming to introduce a plan to cap oil and gas emissions by the end of this year, a regulatory move that would underpin the need for CCS in the oil sands.
Ottawa will issue a 50% investment tax credit to support the CCS project while the Alberta government is expected to announce provincial tax credits this week, but Pathways has said a financial contract to help offset operating costs is also essential.
The federal government announced last week that its Canada Growth Fund would start issuing contracts for difference, which help guarantee the future price of carbon credits, allocating up to C$7 billion to underwrite the contracts.
[Mr] Dilling {President of the Pathways Consortium] said it was unclear whether C$7 billion would be enough to support the Pathways CCS project because of the large volume of credits it will generate, and the alliance is still in discussion with Canadian government officials on contracts for difference.”
https://www.reuters.com/markets/carbon ... 23-11-27/

“ Canada’s government will present legislation this month to start paying subsidies for carbon capture and net-zero energy projects, a source with direct knowledge of the matter told Reuters, part of a plan to worth around $20-billion over five years. “ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busine ... =referral

The federal and provincial funding assistance for these CCS projects allow the Alberta petroleum industry, the fourth largest petroleum industry in the world, to work towards “net-zero” production. However, there is the stipulation that investors in these projects pay workers the prevailing union wage and provide apprenticeship opportunities if they wish to collect the maximum subsidy.

These agreements indicate that Alberta and the federal government can work together. It is important to note that the negotiations for the development of these federal/provincial environmental subsidies began long before Premier Smith began her bombastic and divisionary statements.
We won’t fight homelessness, hunger, or poverty, but we can fight climate change. The juxtaposition of the now and the future, food for thought.

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erinmore3775 wrote: Nov 29th, 2023, 5:45 pm

These agreements indicate that Alberta and the federal government can work together. It is important to note that the negotiations for the development of these federal/provincial environmental subsidies began long before Premier Smith began her bombastic and divisionary statements.
LOL - yes it was "Premier Smith" who is engaging in "bombastic and diversionary statements". What elitist nonsense, and so pathetic and worst of all - totally partisan and one sided. Absolving the brain-dead Liberals for their role in this entire shambles of a relationship is disgusting, and so sad.
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^^^^^
Interesting reply to a series of events, agreements, and federal and provincial statements that clearly demonstrate that Alberta and the federal government CAN work together to reduce GHG, greener energy production, and assisting petroleum producers in working towards net zero.
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erinmore3775 wrote: Nov 30th, 2023, 9:06 am ^^^^^
Interesting reply to a series of events, agreements, and federal and provincial statements that clearly demonstrate that Alberta and the federal government CAN work together to reduce GHG, greener energy production, and assisting petroleum producers in working towards net zero.
Yes, I guess, even though none of the above things are really that important, given man-made climate change doesn't exist.
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erinmore3775 wrote: Nov 30th, 2023, 9:06 am ^^^^^
Interesting reply to a series of events, agreements, and federal and provincial statements that clearly demonstrate that Alberta and the federal government CAN work together to reduce GHG, greener energy production, and assisting petroleum producers in working towards net zero.
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Danielle Smith Heads to COP28 to Sell Fossil Fuels

While much of the world views the upcoming United Nations summit on climate change as a step towards reducing the global reliance on fossil fuels, Premier Danielle Smith is taking a much different approach.
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Believe it or not, she sees her trip to the COP28 conference in Dubai as a marketing opportunity for Alberta’s “clean” fossil fuel industry.

There’s certainly an element of chutzpah to Smith’s approach — or maybe it’s just dangerously unhelpful, like showing up at a weight watchers convention with a box of doughnuts.

But Smith is such a cheerleader for Alberta’s oil and gas industry, she’ll happily walk into the lion’s den to make her pitch.


https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2023/11/29/D ... term=intro
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Do you actually believe that the oil barons in the desert are looking to reduce their sales of their oil ? 70,000 people in attendance all arrived by fairy dust looking to thin out their wallets or schmooze for new ways to thin out our wallets ? CMON
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I got a chuckle out the comparison of Ms. Smith attending to "showing up at a weight-watchers convention with a box of donuts", but from what I'm reading there will be a prominent showing by big oil lobbyists. Going to be interesting to see how it works out.
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I get a chuckle out of people who still believe the term "fossil fuel"
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Please remember that the next time, benefiting exposure to fossil fuel is forced, claiming victim hood from harassment and hate due to colonialism, it's supporters and it's products is necessary. It justifies a class action human rights' case because fossil fuel will cause widespread devastation to humanity and life on earth.
To be true to the dough, only acceptance of a financial damage or any other claim is valid if the class action process is free of any fossil resources, in pre 1860 fashion :biggrin: [icon_lol2.gif] :D :topic:

Albertans and Danielle are shaking in their boots and frothing at their mouths from this claim by those,
tru to dough. :130:
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