Liberal Party buying private email addresses?

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crookedmember wrote: Aug 5th, 2021, 10:55 am There's no such thing as a 'private email address.'

You used your 'private email address' for something, sometime, and it ended up on a list that was sold.

Same way the CPC got my 'private cell number' and keeps sending me texts from 'Patricia' asking "Can we count on your support? Reply Y or N."

Since there's no "Go bleep yourself, Patricia" option, I remain silent.
WT :cuss:? :135:
Answer N and they stop. If they don't then you would have some recourse. Otherwise YOU are your own problem.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Aug 7th, 2021, 11:52 am Your tax dollars likely went to phishing your email address for the Liberal Party of Canada, Merry.

Trudeau's best bud received tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars to do just that.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politic ... s-digital/
More JT and his corrupt cronies. True criminals that have duped the ignorant left wing masses. :swear:
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Well, I got a response to my email, but not an answer to my question.

They apologized for sending me an unwanted email, explained my information was in their data base, and offered to remove it.

So I wrote back and said I’d appreciate their removing it, but would also like to know how it got there in the first place, because I have never provided that information to the Liberal Party.

Let’s see if they reply.
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It's not just the Liberals who send out unsolicited e-mails and make unwanted phone calls.

We have received them from many different political venues. If you don't want them and it offends you then either ignore them or politely request them to stop.

If it continues then you have the grounds to complain. Unfortunately our Laws give a lot of leeway to political parties.
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Merry wrote: Aug 7th, 2021, 2:04 pm Well, I got a response to my email, but not an answer to my question.

They apologized for sending me an unwanted email, explained my information was in their data base, and offered to remove it.

So I wrote back and said I’d appreciate their removing it, but would also like to know how it got there in the first place, because I have never provided that information to the Liberal Party.

Let’s see if they reply.
There are many ways that your email address could have been obtained. It could have been from someone you sent an email to that had a compromised computer. Once that happened it would end up on the dark web.
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Sparki55 wrote: Aug 5th, 2021, 11:04 am
crookedmember wrote: Aug 5th, 2021, 10:55 am There's no such thing as a 'private email address.'

You used your 'private email address' for something, sometime, and it ended up on a list that was sold.

Same way the CPC got my 'private cell number' and keeps sending me texts from 'Patricia' asking "Can we count on your support? Reply Y or N."

Since there's no "Go bleep yourself, Patricia" option, I remain silent.
It's illegal.

https://fightspam.gc.ca/eic/site/030.nsf/eng/home

Please report every instance to help the fight against unsolicited texts and emails.
Nope. Remember that "reading" thing?
Exemptions
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LANDM wrote: Aug 7th, 2021, 3:28 pm
Sparki55 wrote: Aug 5th, 2021, 11:04 am

It's illegal.

https://fightspam.gc.ca/eic/site/030.nsf/eng/home

Please report every instance to help the fight against unsolicited texts and emails.
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sent by, or on behalf of, a registered charity or for fundraising purposes, or
sent by a political party, or organization.
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Almost like robocalls from not so long ago
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Beerhunter341 wrote: Aug 7th, 2021, 2:46 pm
Merry wrote: Aug 7th, 2021, 2:04 pm Well, I got a response to my email, but not an answer to my question.

They apologized for sending me an unwanted email, explained my information was in their data base, and offered to remove it.

So I wrote back and said I’d appreciate their removing it, but would also like to know how it got there in the first place, because I have never provided that information to the Liberal Party.

Let’s see if they reply.
There are many ways that your email address could have been obtained. It could have been from someone you sent an email to that had a compromised computer. Once that happened it would end up on the dark web.
But is it appropriate for Political Partys to be encouraging that kind of activity by buying such information?

I would argue that it most definitely is not!
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Merry wrote: Aug 7th, 2021, 6:25 pm
But is it appropriate for Political Partys to be encouraging that kind of activity by buying such information?

I would argue that it most definitely is not!
The Liberal Party doesn't go to the dark web to buy email lists. They are available from legitimate sources.

You don't even know if they got it from a list. Perhaps one of your grandchildren signed you up. Maybe they're trying to convert you.

It's an email. You'll survive.
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crookedmember wrote: Aug 7th, 2021, 6:37 pm
Merry wrote: Aug 7th, 2021, 6:25 pm
But is it appropriate for Political Partys to be encouraging that kind of activity by buying such information?

I would argue that it most definitely is not!
The Liberal Party doesn't go to the dark web to buy email lists. They are available from legitimate sources.

You don't even know if they got it from a list. Perhaps one of your grandchildren signed you up. Maybe they're trying to convert you.

It's an email. You'll survive.
You’re missing the point.

Our Government, or those that are hoping to form Government, should be doing what they can to try to PREVENT the buying and selling of personal information. NOT encoraging such activity by buying it themselves (from ANY source).
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Merry wrote: Aug 8th, 2021, 6:50 pm
crookedmember wrote: Aug 7th, 2021, 6:37 pm

The Liberal Party doesn't go to the dark web to buy email lists. They are available from legitimate sources.

You don't even know if they got it from a list. Perhaps one of your grandchildren signed you up. Maybe they're trying to convert you.

It's an email. You'll survive.
You’re missing the point.

Our Government, or those that are hoping to form Government, should be doing what they can to try to PREVENT the buying and selling of personal information. NOT encoraging such activity by buying it themselves (from ANY source).
You're, I'd like to know if I'm in the Liberal's or CPC's database, CIMS, just in case I get a call like a whole bunch of people in 2011.....
A Federal Court judge eventually concluded that fraud was a factor in the robocalls, and that the Conservative party database known as the Constituency Information Management System, or CIMS, was likely the source of the contact information used, but said that 
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/key-fa ... -1.2736659

I wonder where both parties buy their voter info data from?
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You have a right to ask them how they got your personal information.

"Guidance for federal political parties on protecting personal information"

https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/privacy-topic ... pp_201904/

"Individuals with specific concerns should first contact the listed privacy officer of the political party in question (as outlined in their policy) and/or Elections Canada if they have concerns about the accuracy of a party’s policies."

For instance,

"CONTACT US"

https://liberal.ca/privacy/

"If you have any questions about our privacy policy or the personal information in our possession, simply email us at [email protected], Attn. John Arnold, Senior Director, Compliance."

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