Canada accepting 20,000 Afghanistan's

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rustled wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:17 pm
Someone who didn't bother to pay attention when Canadians and our allies in Afghanistan needed him to.
That would have been in 2014 when all of Canada got out of Afghanistan. Where was that guy? Oh yeah callous telling those same allies, "nope, we paid you guys already and you knew the risks".....so there will be no more allowed into Canada......that guy?
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fvkasm2x wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:22 pm
foenix wrote:Great we need more immigrants to replenish our working classes to support them in their retirement. Welcome Afgans to Canada, we're an awesome country.
It's cute that you think this happens.

20,000+ where the VAST MAJORITY don't speak English well (if at all), have limited skill sets and who are depending on US to take care of THEM... and yet they're magically going to support ME 10 years from now? Ha.

If these were actual immigrants with education, technical skills and/or resources to come here legally and contribute to our way of life... then sure, come on in. These are poor people being saved, coming with nothing and will still be poor here.

And for those who call me mean, jaded or racist... it's quite simply a "we can't save everyone" mindset. There are literally hundreds of millions who need to be saved in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. This situation is no more dire than those in Venezeula, Somalia, Yemen or Syria right now.

Why Afghani's but not these other people literally having civil wars in 2021?
Strictly to deflect from his neglect of Canadians and our allies in Afghanistan who were trying to get out over the past few weeks as the situation in Afghanistan deteriorated, and couldn't get the Trudeau government to expedite the process.

Either Trudeau had no clue the process needed to be expedited, or he chose to ignore his responsibility.

Either way: massive fail.

But hey, he's promising to bring in 20,000 refugees to make up for his failure.
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fvkasm2x wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:22 pm
foenix wrote: Aug 15th, 2021, 11:13 am Great we need more immigrants to replenish our working classes to support them in their retirement. Welcome Afgans to Canada, we're an awesome country.
It's cute that you think this happens.

20,000+ where the VAST MAJORITY don't speak English well (if at all), have limited skill sets and who are depending on US to take care of THEM... and yet they're magically going to support ME 10 years from now? Ha.
Yes that's exactly what's going to happen exactly like how other immigrants have done in this country......perhaps even your own sometimes in the past. Study upon study have shown this to be true. Those same Afghani will become future Canadians and contribute to our society. It's not like Canada can sustain any future economic growth without immigrants because we dont produce enough of our own to sustain future growth or have the ability to take of our elderly in the future.
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foenix wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:24 pm
That would have been in 2014 when all of Canada got out of Afghanistan. Where was that guy? Oh yeah callous telling those same allies, "nope, we paid you guys already and you knew the risks".....so there will be no more allowed into Canada......that guy?
Katie - enough. Take the hit here. You guys blew it.
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rustled wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:30 pm
fvkasm2x wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:22 pm

It's cute that you think this happens.

20,000+ where the VAST MAJORITY don't speak English well (if at all), have limited skill sets and who are depending on US to take care of THEM... and yet they're magically going to support ME 10 years from now? Ha.

If these were actual immigrants with education, technical skills and/or resources to come here legally and contribute to our way of life... then sure, come on in. These are poor people being saved, coming with nothing and will still be poor here.

And for those who call me mean, jaded or racist... it's quite simply a "we can't save everyone" mindset. There are literally hundreds of millions who need to be saved in Africa, Asia and the Middle East. This situation is no more dire than those in Venezeula, Somalia, Yemen or Syria right now.

Why Afghani's but not these other people literally having civil wars in 2021?
Strictly to deflect from his neglect of Canadians and our allies in Afghanistan who were trying to get out over the past few weeks as the situation in Afghanistan deteriorated, and couldn't get the Trudeau government to expedite the process.

Either Trudeau had no clue the process needed to be expedited, or he chose to ignore his responsibility.

Either way: massive fail.

But hey, he's promising to bring in 20,000 refugees to make up for his failure.
If it's a massive fail, then I guess with the exception of the US and maybe the UK, it's everyone’s failure

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The Green Barbarian wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:41 pm
foenix wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:24 pm
That would have been in 2014 when all of Canada got out of Afghanistan. Where was that guy? Oh yeah callous telling those same allies, "nope, we paid you guys already and you knew the risks".....so there will be no more allowed into Canada......that guy?
Katie - enough. Take the hit here. You guys blew it.
:up: :up:

No rational person would believe this hogwash nonsense, that Canadians and their allies who needed help from the Trudeau government in 2021 didn't get the help they needed in 2021 from the Trudeau government "because 2014".

Oh, but Trudeau says we'll take 20,000 refugees - as though that'll make up for the Trudeau government's failure.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:41 pm
foenix wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:24 pm
That would have been in 2014 when all of Canada got out of Afghanistan. Where was that guy? Oh yeah callous telling those same allies, "nope, we paid you guys already and you knew the risks".....so there will be no more allowed into Canada......that guy?
Katie - enough. Take the hit here. You guys blew it.
Not buying it. JT did well to get 3700 refugees out of a difficult situation compared to our other allies who did even worse......so great job JT in your effort. To bad about the callous attitude of the other guys tho or more of them would have been here in the 7 years that went in between our final pull out from Afghanistan.
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rustled wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:59 pm
The Green Barbarian wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:41 pm

Katie - enough. Take the hit here. You guys blew it.
:up: :up:

No rational person would believe this hogwash nonsense, that Canadians and their allies who needed help from the Trudeau government in 2021 didn't get the help they needed in 2021 from the Trudeau government "because 2014".

Oh, but Trudeau says we'll take 20,000 refugees - as though that'll make up for the Trudeau government's failure.
Of course for Trudeau, the 20,000 will will be fully vetted Taliban or IS
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mikest2 wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 7:06 pm
Of course for Trudeau, the 20,000 will will be fully vetted Taliban or IS
And you know a Canadian government official will be there at the airport to hand them their winter jackets and if they have proof of killing any Canadian or American soldiers, a cheque for $10 million as well.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 7:05 pm Screenshot 2021-08-26 190427.jpg
Probably not, it's not free anymore. The only thing that plane would load is bunch of poppies for resale and not Afghanis.
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The "20,000" deflection shield doesn't seem to be working very well:
Trudeau called it a "very difficult day" but said Ottawa's commitment to resettle more than 20,000 Afghans in Canada and support residents in the war-torn region will continue.

"Our engagement with Afghanistan is not done. Yes, this phase of the emergency air bridge facilitated by the Americans until they pull out finally has been important and has been something we've been in wholeheartedly over the past many weeks," he said.

"This particular moment is done and it's heartbreaking to see, but there is much more to do, and Canada will continue to be there for Afghans and Afghan people."

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said Canada's exit was a "failure."

"Many veterans have raised concerns around the process being too complicated, requiring access to the internet when many people didn't have it, and just not meeting the needs of people in a crisis," he said in Winnipeg, where he highlighted the NDP's pledge on housing.

"It's with a heavy heart that we now see thousands of our allies, people who put their lives at risk to support our troops, are now being left behind."
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Trudeau's apologists seem to be the only ones willing to pretend it wasn't Trudeau's responsibility to meet the needs of Canadians and our allies in crisis in Afghanistan.
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fvkasm2x wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 6:22 pmWhy Afghani's but not these other people literally having civil wars in 2021?
Because they risked life and limb helping us in our operations.

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foenix wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 7:15 pm
Probably not, it's not free anymore. The only thing that plane would load is bunch of poppies for resale and not Afghanis.
This is just a foolish response
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rustled wrote: Aug 26th, 2021, 7:34 pm
Trudeau's apologists seem to be the only ones willing to pretend it wasn't Trudeau's responsibility to meet the needs of Canadians and our allies in crisis in Afghanistan.
Of course not, Canadians with a half a brain and not have their little partisan glasses blind them knows it wasn't JT's war in the first place. That would be that war hawk Harper that escalated our present there and managed to get our Canadians soldiers killed, all in a vain effort to show to the world how tough he was. If there is one single person to lay the blame on about our involvement in Afghanistan in the first place, then it would have to be Emperor Harper.
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