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Diane Francis: Afghan withdrawal a bruise on our reputation
There is no excuse for the Canadian government not getting everyone out weeks before the Taliban reached Kabul

The U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan has been a disaster, though there was never going to be a good time to leave. Footage of the chaos at the airport is disturbing and the United States government has been rightly criticized for its botched withdrawal. Yes, the collapse of the Afghan regime seemed to take everyone by surprise and all the western allies are facing the same challenges. However, some have coped better than others. Canada’s exit attempt, it appears, has been appalling.

Canadian officials left Kabul and closed the Canadian Embassy before the Taliban arrived, and before all citizens and valued staff members could be evacuated, according to several accounts.

On Aug. 15, as the Taliban was over-running Kabul, Foreign Affairs Minister Marc Garneau issued a statement saying that “Canadian personnel … are now safely on their way back to Canada.”

Yet a recent story in Blacklock’s Reporter notes that, “The Department of Foreign Affairs closed its embassy in Kabul though it knew Canadian citizens remained trapped inside Afghanistan.”

And on Aug. 20, respected journalist Kevin Newman, the former “Global National” anchor who’s now working with volunteer veterans to help rescue Canadians and their interpreters from the Taliban, wrote a column for the Line newsletter saying that Canada has done an abysmal job.

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By the way, the collapse of the Afghan government once the Americans decided to leave and announced a withdrawal date should not have come as a surprise to any of the allies or those on the ground, as a 2019 report by the Canadian Security Intelligence Service predicted a quick “collapse” and victory for the Taliban. There is no excuse for the Canadian government not getting everyone out weeks before the Taliban reached Kabul, or at least having an evacuation plan in place that could be executed on short notice.

The blame for this mess lies squarely with the federal Liberals, which have mishandled and misunderstood most foreign policy issues that have come their way — from China to Afghanistan. Now people are imperilled and the country’s reputation has been bruised.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Aug 30th, 2021, 11:49 am
foenix wrote: Aug 30th, 2021, 10:59 am but it was Harper
LOL - here we go again. Justin just looks awful on this. Blaming anyone else for this debacle just makes it look even worse. BUT HARPER! - what a joke.
Really what year did ALL Canadians except for the embassy staff LEAVE Afghanistan? ......hint.....it wasn't 2021.
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foenix wrote: Aug 30th, 2021, 12:29 pm
The Green Barbarian wrote: Aug 30th, 2021, 11:49 am

LOL - here we go again. Justin just looks awful on this. Blaming anyone else for this debacle just makes it look even worse. BUT HARPER! - what a joke.
Really what year did ALL Canadians except for the embassy staff LEAVE Afghanistan? ......hint.....it wasn't 2021.
You need to check facts, A great number of Canadian military special forces were still in Afghanistan up until a few ago, only regular army pulled out of Afghanistan several years ago.
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Hurtlander wrote: Aug 30th, 2021, 12:46 pm
foenix wrote: Aug 30th, 2021, 12:29 pm

Really what year did ALL Canadians except for the embassy staff LEAVE Afghanistan? ......hint.....it wasn't 2021.
You need to check facts, A great number of Canadian military special forces were still in Afghanistan up until a few ago, only regular army pulled out of Afghanistan several years ago.
Oh ok, so the special forces got there on Aug 12, 2021 to help with the evacuation but as far as I'm aware they weren't there before that? You have something besides this?

Canada to send special forces to Afghanistan to close embassy in Kabul, official says
Canadian special forces will deploy to Afghanistan where staff in Canada’s embassy in Kabul will be evacuated before it closes, a source familiar with the plan told The Associated Press.

The official, who was not authorized to talk publicly about the matter and spoke on condition of anonymity, did not say how many special forces would be sent.

Just weeks before the U.S. is scheduled to end its war in Afghanistan, the Biden administration is also rushing 3,000 fresh troops to the Kabul airport to help with a partial evacuation of the U.S. Embassy.

The moves highlight the stunning speed of a Taliban takeover of much of the country, including their capture on Thursday of Kandahar, the second-largest city and the birthplace of the Taliban movement.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/13/canada- ... bassy.html
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Garneau accepts some criticism of evacuation efforts in Afghanistan

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/g ... d=msedgntp
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Aug 30th, 2021, 7:13 pm
Garneau accepts some criticism of evacuation efforts in Afghanistan

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/g ... d=msedgntp
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Justin told him to take the blame. Justin needed a sacrificial lamb.

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Another billion dollars wasted?

Where did the money go?

A final audit by Global Affairs Canada indicated $1B Afghanistan aid was wasted despite Karina Gould’s claims of success. Spending lavishly without accountability or based on demonstrable results has become a hallmark of the cavalier attitude towards Canadian taxpayers’ money of this government.

“There was pressure to spend and it was too much, too fast." The larger question, where and from whom did this pressure come from and why?


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You need to check facts, A great number of Canadian military special forces were still in Afghanistan up until a few ago, only regular army pulled out of Afghanistan several years ago.
What's 'a great number"?
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But almost four months later, Mohammed has received only an auto-reply to his application under a special immigration program designed expressly for Canada’s former Afghan employees.

It’s a striking case study of the program’s ongoing troubles and has left the ex-guard and his children – who had to abandon promising university and school studies when the Taliban took over — hiding and in constant fear.

“I think Canada forgot us,” Mohammed’s son said this week, asking that his own given name and family name not be published to protect their safety. “My Dad took (care of) the security of embassy and staff for a decade till closing of embassy. Now our life is in danger and now we need them to save our lives.”

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Mohammed applied to the special program for ex-employees on Aug. 15. The only reply from IRCC since was an “automated” confirmation of receipt.

“Rest assured that we have received your message and that we will respond to your enquiry shortly,” said the email sent three and a half months ago. “It is not necessary to send us another message unless your situation has changed.”

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Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 4th, 2021, 12:51 pm "I'm sorry, we're catching waves in Tofino right now and can't take your call"

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Of course it would be "press 3" for Harper as he's the one that escalated the involvement of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan and tucked his tail between his legs as he said adios to our Afghani allies as he high tailed it out of there. Now JT and the Libs are left holding Harper's stinky leftovers and are trying to solve CPC's unfinished business for them 6 years after we left Afghanistan.
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foenix wrote: Dec 4th, 2021, 1:19 pm
Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 4th, 2021, 12:51 pm "I'm sorry, we're catching waves in Tofino right now and can't take your call"

Press 1 to donate to the Liberal Party.
Press 2 to learn how the budget will balance itself.
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Of course it would be "press 3" for Harper as he's the one that escalated the involvement of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan and tucked his tail between his legs as he said adios to our Afghani allies as he high tailed it out of there. Now JT and the Libs are left holding Harper's stinky leftovers and are trying to solve CPC's unfinished business for them 6 years after we left Afghanistan.
^^^^^^ THIS
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foenix wrote: Dec 4th, 2021, 1:19 pm
Gone_Fishin wrote: Dec 4th, 2021, 12:51 pm "I'm sorry, we're catching waves in Tofino right now and can't take your call"

Press 1 to donate to the Liberal Party.
Press 2 to learn how the budget will balance itself.
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Of course it would be "press 3" for Harper as he's the one that escalated the involvement of Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan and tucked his tail between his legs as he said adios to our Afghani allies as he high tailed it out of there. Now JT and the Libs are left holding Harper's stinky leftovers and are trying to solve CPC's unfinished business for them 6 years after we left Afghanistan.
Come on now, how far back do you want to go to place blame?

How about the guy who got us into that hell-hole?
How about you or your buddy KH telling everyone here who it was.

Or how about simply placing the blame on the guy who is in charge TODAY.
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Heartbreaking. Although, I'm certain Trudeau's band of merry paid posters will blame Harper or someone else for Justin's abject failure on this issue.


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Will the spending ever stop, or even slow down?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chryst ... -1.6285558

From December 14, 2021.
$1.3 billion over six years and $66.6 million in future years to resettle 40,000 vulnerable Afghans and their families in Canada.

Let's hope not too many are goat herders.

Notice how it is now 40,000 Afghans.
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