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Yes indeed, the CPC are the masters of the schoolyard "nya, nya" nonsense. No way to compete there.

For the rest of us who are using adult thinking to make our choices, government is not a schoolyard - it is serious business that requires people with serious intent that want to serve - and that ain't the disgraced Tracy Gray who votes against the interests of most of her constituents all the time.
"it is serious business that requires people with serious intent that want to serve"

That definitely leaves Trudeau out. The only one he wants to serve is himself and he has proven it over and over. Good example is calling an election after the parties agreed in the house not to. He even made a statement that it was the last thing Canadians wanted. But he wanted it so the hell with Canadians. That is Trudeau in a nutshell.

That is why we have an election on Monday.
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Winning so much is hard work. But worth it. Trudeau should do a shout-out at his victory ceremony to Jason Kenny. Who was the ideal candidate showing how terrible conservatives are at everything. Especially elections.
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Bernie aka Mr Mittens endorsed Singh
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Smurf wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 3:49 pm
hobbyguy wrote:

Yes indeed, the CPC are the masters of the schoolyard "nya, nya" nonsense. No way to compete there.

For the rest of us who are using adult thinking to make our choices, government is not a schoolyard - it is serious business that requires people with serious intent that want to serve - and that ain't the disgraced Tracy Gray who votes against the interests of most of her constituents all the time.
"it is serious business that requires people with serious intent that want to serve"

That definitely leaves Trudeau out. The only one he wants to serve is himself and he has proven it over and over. Good example is calling an election after the parties agreed in the house not to. He even made a statement that it was the last thing Canadians wanted. But he wanted it so the hell with Canadians. That is Trudeau in a nutshell.

That is why we have an election on Monday.
You don't get to vote for Trudeau, or Singh, or Blanchet or the used car salesman O'Toole. You get to vote for the local MP.

Get over it, we are in an election. You can choose to vote for the disgraced joke of CPC MP in Tracy Gray, or a bright optimistic young man in Tim Krupa who really wants to serve ALL of Kelowna-Lake Country where he grew up.
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 4:45 pm Winning so much is hard work. But worth it. Trudeau should do a shout-out at his victory ceremony to Jason Kenny. Who was the ideal candidate showing how terrible conservatives are at everything. Especially elections.
Politicians are all BS’ing liars just to get gullible voters to choose them, right now all the leaders are giving out taxpayer money like it’s candy.

Once elected all those promises dry up and blow away.
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hobbyguy wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 5:04 pm
Smurf wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 3:49 pm

"it is serious business that requires people with serious intent that want to serve"

That definitely leaves Trudeau out. The only one he wants to serve is himself and he has proven it over and over. Good example is calling an election after the parties agreed in the house not to. He even made a statement that it was the last thing Canadians wanted. But he wanted it so the hell with Canadians. That is Trudeau in a nutshell.

That is why we have an election on Monday.
You don't get to vote for Trudeau, or Singh, or Blanchet or the used car salesman O'Toole. You get to vote for the local MP.

Get over it, we are in an election. You can choose to vote for the disgraced joke of CPC MP in Tracy Gray, or a bright optimistic young man in Tim Krupa who really wants to serve ALL of Kelowna-Lake Country where he grew up.
Even Hobbyguy is distancing himself from Justin Trudeau.
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hobbyguy wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 5:04 pm . You can choose to vote for the disgraced joke of CPC MP in Tracy Gray,
Except that she's not a "disgraced joke", and calling her that is just evil, dishonest and wrong. And the people of Kelowna know that. It's pretty sad to see people debasing themselves like this in the name of the Liberals, and their evil awful handlers.
or a bright optimistic young man in Tim Krupa
If he was really bright, he wouldn't associate with such evil scum as Justin Trudeau. I think he's a nice, extremely naive young man, who needs to sort out his priorities, and select better company to keep as he grows older.
who really wants to serve ALL of Kelowna-Lake Country where he grew up.
We already have that with Tracy, who is an awesome MP. Keep up the great work Tracy!
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The Left are just such horrible scum. They blather on about "democracy", then go out of their way to circumvent and interfere with it. Both Justin and Jagmeet should immediately disown these disgusting anti-democracy foreigners and their evil intent. Just so gross.
Some major endorsements from American politicians for Canadian party leaders ahead of the Sept. 20 vote have caught the eye of many — but do they violate election acts?

Liberal Party of Canada Leader Justin Trudeau received a strong endorsement from former U.S. President Barack Obama via Twitter yesterday (Sept. 16), where the 44th president said Trudeau "has been an effective leader and strong voice for democratic values."

Less than a day later, another ringing endorsement was given to Trudeau by former U.S. Secretary of State and 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, also on Twitter.

"I have seen my friend @JustinTrudeau show leadership in the fight for accessible child care, protected reproductive rights, and ambitious climate action. I'm wishing him and our progressive Canadian neighbors the best in Monday's election," she wrote.

This morning, Burnaby South candidate and NDP Party of Canada Leader Jagmeet Singh got a vote of confidence from American Senator Bernie Sanders, who said "there's one leader who has the courage to make the wealthy pay their fair share so everyone gets the medication they need. That's why I support the @NDP and @theJagmeetSingh."

Obama and Clinton no longer hold positions in any government office, while Sanders is the U.S. Senator for Vermont.

Many on social media have asked if the comments from the trio are foreign election interference or if it's appropriate for American politicians to be endorsing candidates in Canada's election.

Elections Canada told the NOW all individuals, whether Canadian or non-Canadian, are free to express their views on any topic during an election. Comments don't necessarily mean interference, the organization said.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 5:40 pm They blather on about "democracy", then go out of their way to circumvent and interfere with it.
Some major endorsements from American politicians for Canadian party leaders ahead of the Sept. 20 vote have caught the eye of many — but do they violate election acts?
I agree that Erin O’Toole getting an endorsement from disgraced American politician Andrew Scheer was completely disgusting, and fortunately with O’Toole’s recent embarrassing blunders and failure to acknowledge the crisis in Alberta he will soon be booted from Canadian politics just like his endorser.
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Just for a refresher here is JT 2019 election platform/promises, just scroll down and see if anything stands out for yourselves.
https://spon.ca/here-are-all-of-justin- ... 019/11/03/
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 4:45 pm Winning so much is hard work. But worth it. Trudeau should do a shout-out at his victory ceremony to Jason Kenny. Who was the ideal candidate showing how terrible conservatives are at everything. Especially elections.
Winning is not hard work for Trudeau - he is the illegitimate prime minister installed by the cabal. https://www.bitchute.com/video/qvfUkQTG5QHP/
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 5:32 pm
hobbyguy wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 5:04 pm

You don't get to vote for Trudeau, or Singh, or Blanchet or the used car salesman O'Toole. You get to vote for the local MP.

Get over it, we are in an election. You can choose to vote for the disgraced joke of CPC MP in Tracy Gray, or a bright optimistic young man in Tim Krupa who really wants to serve ALL of Kelowna-Lake Country where he grew up.
Even Hobbyguy is distancing himself from Justin Trudeau.
Unless you live in the right Quebec riding you don't get to vote for JT. That's a simple fact.

In a sense, you are correct, as I care less about the leader of a party than I do about who the local MP is, what the party policy is, how they actually vote, and the nature of the party base - which is what drives actual governance.

All the party "leaders" wind up being carnival barkers. Even Singh is in full carnie barker mode at the moment. It winds up[ looking like a bunch of Ron Popeil apprentices trying out their pitches on the suckers at the PNE. (I know, the Ron Popeil reference dates me).

Policy and positions plus the realities of party bases are what drive actual governance. Things like party resolutions eventually rise to the top. So when the CPC party says it doesn't believe climate change is real, and O'Toole says he has a climate change "plan" - I just laugh, because in the end O'Toole has to keep the base onside or he will get tossed.

Singh saying he is running to be PM has about as much credibility as me saying I'm gonna win the Lotto Max 3 times in a row starting next week. Nice guy, but wakey wakey, the NDP ain't gonna form a federal government any more than the Greens will. The NDP only ever once formed the official opposition, and that was only because of a unique circumstance where both the Bloc and the Liberals had imploded.

But then we have seen similar but different tack carnival barker stuff from Trudeau, Paul and Blanchet.

So the real action behind the parties is their platforms, and how they are arrived at, and whether or not the party base supports the platform and policy positions. The rest is just "noise' as far as I am concerned.

And the real election is about who the local MP is. Because in the end, "all politics is local". (Just as an example, I abandoned a provincial party because of the MLA next riding over and stupid statements made by that MLA.) Derek Sloan is finding that out: https://338canada.com/48001e.htm
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Another Win!

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Merry wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 3:09 pm
liisgo wrote: Sep 17th, 2021, 2:36 pm Merry, I am vaccinated, keep it to myself and do not demand anyone follow's my decision to do it. I ask the very same question as you are pointing out above, but in a way that show's me that this issue has got a very double side to it. As clearly shown by so many. The most vulnerable to this flu is weak, pre-condition's and people with un healthy life styles.
The MOST vulnerable are the old and frail. And becoming old and frail cannot be avoided by simply eating well and living a healthy lifestyle. I know folks who ended up that way DESPITE eating well and living a healthy lifestyle. If we live long enough, it can happen to any of us.

Ditto for younger folk with preconditions. Not all preconditions are the result of an unhealthy lifestyle. Some folks are born with chronic diseases, some develop them later in life. But many are just the result of inherited genes, or pure bad luck.

Which is why we should never judge others, until we've "walked a mile in their moccasins".

Yes, it's true that there are some folks clogging up our doctors' offices and hospital emergency rooms who wouldn't be there if they lived a healthier lifestyle. But we should never assume that applies to everyone who isn't the "picture of health". It would be nice though if more doctors were willing to tell those who ARE authors of their own misfortune to shape up before it's too late. But, regrettably, many doctors seem unwilling to do that.

I've always been an advocate for healthy living, and recognize how poor life choices negatively impact the healthcare system. But Covid is not the result of poor lifestyles; it's a contagious disease that ANYONE can catch. And, although many of those who succumb to the more severe form of it MAY have followed an unhealthy lifestyle, that's not true of all of Covid's victims. So we shouldn't react as though they are.

All that said, if too many people require hospitalization all at the same time, regardless of the cause, our healthcare system will collapse under the strain. Which means that if you fall down your stairs and break your neck, you may be unable to get the health care you deserve because there are no hospital beds available for you. So, regardless of what we may think of Covid patients, it's in our own selfish interest to make sure they don't plug up our hospitals. And the only way to do that is to stop Covid from spreading.

Public health measures, such as social distancing, and wearing masks in indoor public spaces, are designed to do just that. But, unless we want to keep doing that forever, we need another "tool in our toolbox". And that's where vaccines come into play.

You say you've had the vaccine, and live a healthy lifestyle. But that won't protect you if you can't access healthcare following an accident, or a sudden unexpected illness.
Merry, you missed the point. But this is about the Election so I'll leave it at that.
All we should be concerned about is getting rid of JT at this time.
What election,,,,JT said he would never call one during a pandemic,,, lets get rid of this "woke" idiot.
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Ladies, take note. Don't vote for the faux feminist.

Anyone notice that the Trudeau pumpers on here are all men, and white as Rice?

No coincidence. There's no room for women in the Trudeau Liberals.


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