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hobbyguy wrote: Aug 27th, 2021, 11:52 am

Lack of political experience? You obviously have not read Tim Krupa's CV.

Tim has helped out at the highest levels of our Canadian government.
And if he had worked with an actual functioning government, I could see this being a real asset. However, given he apparently wasted three years of his life "working" with our current PM, he'd have more credibility if he had "helped out" at the highest levels of North Korea's government. Or Iran. Or with Putin.
That understanding/experience and the contacts made will help Tim Krupa to get things done for Kelowna/Lake Country.
I agree, I think Tim will really do well.
And as far as "smear", how is pointing out the awful and disgraceful voting record of the incumbent "smear"?
Easy - her voting record isn't awful or disgraceful.
Tim Krupa stands out as the best choice.
I agree that he's the second best choice, but unfortunately he is representing some serious losers in the Liberals.
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hobbyguy wrote: Aug 27th, 2021, 11:52 am
rustled wrote: Aug 27th, 2021, 10:38 am

Admiring Tim Krupa's achievements does not require blinding ourselves to his lack of political experience, or to his willingness to tow the line of a party that has proven itself to be highly dictatorial. What good is a fine mind capable of critical analysis when speaking up will only earn Krupa the censure of partisans, in the same way you've chosen to censure Gray, or the censure of his party leader, as Trudeau chose to censure Jane Philpott?

No, hobbyguy, this isn't envy, nor is it the partisan denigration you've used to smear those you don't want to see elected. This is realism. While Krupa may make indeed a fine parliamentarian at some point, it's unlikely he will find a way to shine as a member of the Trudeau Liberals - and more likely IMO he will tarnish himself through his association with them.
Lack of political experience? You obviously have not read Tim Krupa's CV.

Tim has helped out at the highest levels of our Canadian government. That understanding/experience and the contacts made will help Tim Krupa to get things done for Kelowna/Lake Country.
He "helped out" at the highest levels of the inept and amateur Trudeau Liberals' government. That certainly isn't to his advantage, nor to the advantage of his constituents.
hobbyguy wrote:And as far as "smear", how is pointing out the awful and disgraceful voting record of the incumbent "smear"? I am simply stating facts that anyone can look up at opencommons.ca.
You've done far, far more than simply state facts - you've twisted the facts and re-stated her reasons for voting the way she did, to suit your personal anti-Conservative agenda.
hobbyguy wrote:There is a huge difference between smear and pointing out a factual voting record and high expense account (the highest travel expenses of Okanagan regional MPs by far) of the current disgraced incumbent. There is "smear" and "innuendo" and then there are documented facts that are available to all.
Using the facts the way you have used them is smearing. Keep telling yourself it isn't - how dishonest you want to be with yourself is entirely your own business. Putting dishonesty out in the public realm, though, is putting it out to be refuted by those not blinded by partisan anti-Conservative loathing. (I rather doubt you could see what those of us not blinded by that bias can see: someone who has always been utterly desperate to smear the Conservatives, doing everything he can to smear the Conservatives regardless of the impact on his own credibility.)
hobbyguy wrote:The reality is that we here in Kelowna/Lake Country are in the process of hiring an MP to serve ALL of us. I have hired many, many people as long time (but retired) business manager, and Tim Krupa's CV tells me that he is the best candidate to serve us ALL (regardless of LGBTQ, male, female, young, old, religious or not, business owner or employee, etc. etc.).
Of course you would say that, given your anti-Conservative bias.
hobbyguy wrote:That's what we as voters are charged to do in our democracy, hire the best MP to serve us all right here in our Kelowna/Lake Country electoral district. Tim Krupa stands out as the best choice.
The mere fact he has been "helping out" at the highest levels of the Trudeau Liberal government tells many voters all they need to know - a vote for Tim Krupa is a vote for more of the elitism the Trudeau Liberals are now famous for.

Surely Tim Krupa could see that this was a terribly inappropriate time, for his constituents, for the Trudeau Liberals to call an election. Either he didn't get Trudeau's ear, or the contacts you think he has are not giving him the respect you think he's due.

You are basically confirming what I said before - regardless of the needs of his constituents, Krupa will only tow the party line because that's all he can do.
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https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/3 ... nes#344164

I didn't go all the way back to see who said he will gain experience and he worked for Trudeau.

I'm uncertain what he did for Trudeau as he worked for the highest level of government. The mail-boy also works for the highest level of government as does the house keepers.

In any event Krupa will have to learn. 1: Load the brain
2: Then speak out, ensure you know what you are stating or someone will shut it for you.

He reminds me of Justin, when he spoke of the switched to "water bottles out of plastic, away to drink box water bottles". Still very funny to watch !

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Tiny Tim making unfounded claims about his opponents.

Looks like the nice boy has been told to be more like Justin - make up stuff, repeat it loudly, virtue signal, be a dismissive jackass. Repeat.

How's that working out for Justin, Tiny Tim?

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Gone_Fishin wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 8:34 am Tiny Tim making unfounded claims about his opponents.
Still, he is making the claims and it is election time. It will be interesting to see how MS. Gray responds, if she responds at all. She has a growing reputation of sitting pretty far to the right on the political spectrum, and that might not play too well with a lot of voters. This was the way it worked for Scheer last time out, he was mum on everything but Trudeau-hate and voters decided that wasn't enough. Will they now decide that Ms. Gray is the greater of two evils if she won't take a stand on one of the most divisive issues of the day ?
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 8:34 am Tiny Tim making unfounded claims about his opponents.

Looks like the nice boy has been told to be more like Justin - make up stuff, repeat it loudly, virtue signal, be a dismissive jackass. Repeat.

How's that working out for Justin, Tiny Tim?

People are tired of your divisive politics, boys. You'll never learn, though. Liberal Elitists refuse to listen and learn.
Actually, repeating rhetoric from the do nothing and disgraced big expense account incumbent just highlights the shallowness of the incumbent. The incumbent has been nowhere in the vaccine promotion campaigns. The incumbent has done zero to support public health officials and has been part of a group of CPC MPs that have attacked public health officials.

The incumbent was entirely silent on on the growth of conspiracy theory nonsense about vaccines in Kelowna/Lake Country. The incumbent was entirely silent on the issue as the group of CPC she associates with was involved in trying to introduce vaccine conspiracy nonsense to parliamentary discussion.

That same group has voted against women's rights, LGBTQ rights, seniors rights and gone even further opposing fair taxation on corporations and voting NOT to proceed with efforts to get to net zero. And yes, the incumbent's lockstep actions with that hard right group of CPC MPs are documented and publicly available at ourcommons.ca.

Pointing out an incumbent's voting record and lack of action is not divisive, nor is it "attack" politics. It is a statement of facts that all voters can easily verify at ourcommons.ca. Example: https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/votes/43/2/175 there is the incumbent voting against LGBTQ rights. Example: https://www.ourcommons.ca/members/en/votes/43/2/72 Each voter can decide for themselves on those issues and vote accordingly as they choose, but they do need to know who it actually is they voting for, and whether that candidate represents them and ALL of Kelowna/Lake Country.

And yes, the Kelowna/Lake country incumbent has even voted against her own party leader on key issues to ensure an ongoing attack on women, seniors, and LGBTQ folks within Kelowna/Lake Country.

The incumbent voting against efforts to get to net zero is a vote against the future prosperity and well being of ALL of us in Kelowna/Kelowna Lake Country - and a vote against the future prosperity and well being of of our children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren.

The contrast with Tim Krupa is obvious. Tim Krupa wants to serve ALL constituents within Kelowna/Lake Country and encourage those who have been misled by social media conspiracy theories to do what is in their own best interests.

Tim Krupa wants to serve us all by encouraging a transition to a net zero low carbon (not no carbon) economy and way of life. That matters to businesses - almost all large businesses are working hard to ensure their business gets to net zero, many tourists are shifting toward lower carbon choices, farmers and ranchers are struggling with GHG induced climate change effects. The effects of GHG induced climate change are driving up food prices, lumber prices - which drives up housing costs, etc.

Tim Krupa wants seniors to have choices in their sunset life season, to have freedom of choice, independence options and a robust set of available social supports to ensure their independence and ability to stay happily in their own homes.

Tim Krupa wants our LGBTQ community to be safe and welcome in our community and not subject to barbaric harassment like the outrageous and barbaric "conversion therapy" quackery, along with all other minority groups being free from harassment. That is fundamental to the freedom of choice that is a key Canadian value.

Tim Krupa wants women, who are not a minority, to have full access to that Canadian fundamental value of freedom of choice.

In short, Tim Krupa wants ALL of us to enjoy the freedom of choice that is fundamental to Canadian values and to protect our Canadian future prosperity with robust actions to get to a net zero low carbon economy and be world leaders in that, thus providing future opportunities and well being for all - while leaving none behind.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 8:34 am People are tired of your divisive politics, boys. You'll never learn, though. Liberal Elitists refuse to listen and learn.
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hobbyguy wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 10:08 amIn short, Tim Krupa wants ALL of us to enjoy the freedom of choice that is fundamental to Canadian values and to protect our Canadian future prosperity with robust actions to get to a net zero low carbon economy and be world leaders in that, thus providing future opportunities and well being for all - while leaving none behind.
If that's what Krupa wants, he is running for the wrong party - he has committed himself to the party that uses dishonest tactics to divide us against each other, wastes our natural resources, uses our money to feather their nests at our expense, and doesn't give a fig for the consequences.
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rustled wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 10:17 am
hobbyguy wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 10:08 amIn short, Tim Krupa wants ALL of us to enjoy the freedom of choice that is fundamental to Canadian values and to protect our Canadian future prosperity with robust actions to get to a net zero low carbon economy and be world leaders in that, thus providing future opportunities and well being for all - while leaving none behind.
If that's what Krupa wants, he is running for the wrong party.
If Liberals truly believe in freedom of choice, sometimes called pro-choice, they wouldn’t be threatening to force mandatory vaccines on all federal employees. You can’t pick and choose pro-choice to fit your narrative, that’s why O’Toole is only recommending people get vaccinated, but isn’t willing to make vaccines mandatory.
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rustled wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 10:17 am

If that's what Krupa wants, he is running for the wrong party - he has committed himself to the party that uses dishonest tactics to divide us against each other, wastes our natural resources, uses our money to feather their nests at our expense, and doesn't give a fig for the consequences.
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hobbyguy wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 10:08 am
Actually, repeating rhetoric from the do nothing and disgraced big expense account incumbent
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And yes, the Kelowna/Lake country incumbent has even voted against her own party leader on key issues to ensure an ongoing attack on women, seniors, and LGBTQ folks within Kelowna/Lake Country.
It's this kind of divisiveness, fraught with dishonesty, spin and pure vitriol, that Canadians are tired of. Tim has a bright future, but not with the band of Liberal lunkheads he's currently tied his wagon to. Get this election over with as fast as possible Tim, lose horribly as you should given the party that you are representing deserves not one vote in this country, and go find yourself some people with some integrity to work for and with, to do some good in this world. People like you are Canada's future, and you deserve better than being thrown into this hole full of Liberal pit vipers, and stained with their stench. You must have more integrity than these Liberal people, you couldn't have less.
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Hurtlander wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 10:24 am
rustled wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 10:17 am

If that's what Krupa wants, he is running for the wrong party.
If Liberals truly believe in freedom of choice, sometimes called pro-choice, they wouldn’t be threatening to force mandatory vaccines on all federal employees. You can’t pick and choose pro-choice to fit your narrative, that’s why O’Toole is only recommending people get vaccinated, but isn’t willing to make vaccines mandatory.
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Hurtlander wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 10:24 am
If Liberals truly believe in freedom of choice, sometimes called pro-choice, they wouldn’t be threatening to force mandatory vaccines on all federal employees. You can’t pick and choose pro-choice to fit your narrative, that’s why O’Toole is only recommending people get vaccinated, but isn’t willing to make vaccines mandatory.
and yet the Liberals looked the fool on the whole mandatory vaccine thing when their own HR officer said that they couldn't legally force vaccines on federal workers, and they had to retreat to copying O'Toole's platform. It was a giant cluster. Poor old Tim, you really have no where to go but down with the Liberals. Your leader has gone from rock star to boat anchor.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 10:38 am
Hurtlander wrote: Aug 28th, 2021, 10:24 am
If Liberals truly believe in freedom of choice, sometimes called pro-choice, they wouldn’t be threatening to force mandatory vaccines on all federal employees. You can’t pick and choose pro-choice to fit your narrative, that’s why O’Toole is only recommending people get vaccinated, but isn’t willing to make vaccines mandatory.
and yet the Liberals looked the fool on the whole mandatory vaccine thing when their own HR officer said that they couldn't legally force vaccines on federal workers, and they had to retreat to copying O'Toole's platform. It was a giant cluster. Poor old Tim, you really have no where to go but down with the Liberals. Your leader has gone from rock star to boat anchor.
Do you guys understand the legal requirement for employers to take all necessary steps to protect workplace health and safety? As an employer, the federal government has no choice but to enforce vaccine mandates just as Google et al, the BC Lions sports team, and all five of Canada's largest banks are doing.

If employers do NOT go the vaccine mandate route they open themselves up to negligence lawsuits if an employee is disabled by COVID or heaven forbid pass away from COVID. They would also be in contravention of things like WorkSafe regulations and subject to other legal actions.

Vaccination for COVID in the workplace is no different than non smoking rules, hardhat rules, steel toe boot regulations and host of others that employers and employees alike follow.

As a responsible candidate, Tim Krupa will do his part to ensure that employees in all workplaces have proper health and safety regimes to protect them.
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