In a Quandry... Vote or Not

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Veovis wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 1:01 pm if the Bloq get enough and partner with the cons.
I doubt you will ever see that happening.
Mr. Blanchet has said that Mr. O’Toole's positions on climate change, health transfers and child care issues are not compatible with the interests of Quebec.
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PoplarSoul wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 1:14 pm
I doubt you will ever see that happening.
Mr. Blanchet has said that Mr. O’Toole's positions on climate change, health transfers and child care issues are not compatible with the interests of Quebec.
Man-made climate change? What's the position that Yves would prefer? Higher taxes on poor people?

Seriously though, speculating on who will partner with whom right now is a fool's game. No one knows how many seats the CPC are going to win, or if they'll even need the pipeline hating welfare-sucking Bloc-heads.
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PoplarSoul wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 1:14 pm
Veovis wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 1:01 pm if the Bloq get enough and partner with the cons.
I doubt you will ever see that happening.
Mr. Blanchet has said that Mr. O’Toole's positions on climate change, health transfers and child care issues are not compatible with the interests of Quebec.

Quite possible but we know the Liberals won't try to work with the Cons, the NDP certainly won't (even should they say they will we know better) so that leaves MAYBE the bloq.

Septuagenarian wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 2:04 pm
To prop up a 'Liberal' government over a Conservative minority? Is that what you're saying?
Jagmeet has been very obedient to Justin so far and I don't see that changing any time soon. I think he and Justin already see the outcome and how they can maintain power after, he's just currently likeable and Justin isn't but people forget he has been Justin's yes man for some time now.
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If in doubt, vote for the hottest candidate.

If there are no hot candidates, then they better have at least 379,000 followers on YouTube and they better be making videos in French and English.

Okay, here is a guy that deserves a vote, although, he's running against Marc Garneau in a Quebec riding, so probably wont win.



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Veovis wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 1:01 pmI disagree. I think we will see federally what occurred in BC, if the Conservatives win a minority you will instantly see Jagmeet go right back into lap dog mode and partner with Justin to prop up that government instead of trying to be their own party.
If the CPC wins a majority the NDP will be in a good position to force some concessions out of the Liberals, which could go a long way into integrating some NDP policy into the governing party. I think Mr. Singh is a lot smarter than Trudeau, he'll make sure he gets a decent chunk of cooperation.
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Septuagenarian wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 6:48 am
vegas1500 wrote: Aug 31st, 2021, 9:55 pm There is only one person to vote for if you want Trudeau gone……he may not be the best but he’s better, and has some good people around him.
Trudeau's the reason we're having this election, and if he wins a majority then 'better' won't count in any way shape or form.
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Glacier wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 3:52 pm If in doubt, vote for the hottest candidate.

If there are no hot candidates, then they better have at least 379,000 followers on YouTube and they better be making videos in French and English.

Okay, here is a guy that deserves a vote, although, he's running against Marc Garneau in a Quebec riding, so probably wont win.



I'd love to vote for this guy. I've been a subscriber to his youtube channel for a couple of years now. Always good content, he knows what he is talking about and is very likable. I dont think we have a PPC candidate here in the central Okanagan though?
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fluffy wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 3:54 pm I think Mr. Singh is a lot smarter than Trudeau,
Pretty bold statement, really going out on a limb there.
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fluffy wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 3:54 pm ............. I think Mr. Singh is a lot smarter than Trudeau, he'll make sure he gets a decent chunk of cooperation.
Pretty low bar.
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Septuagenarian wrote: Aug 31st, 2021, 7:49 pm Something worth examining that is actually in the works right now and could be enacted with the enough support.

Canada, federally since 1930: "Phony majorities -- 12; Legitimate majorities -- 4."

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Political party gets 40% of the voters.... they get 40% of seats in House of Commons (divided evenly across the country).

Not like some of those proportion representation ideas BC tried, those impo were a joke.
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Septuagenarian wrote: Sep 1st, 2021, 7:40 pm
Sorry, I assumed you were suggesting that Trudeau was the "he" who would win the majority
Why would you assume that? Justin is running a freaking awful campaign that is so bad, doesn't even make him at this point qualified to be the official opposition. It's pretty obvious at this point - a vote for the Liberals is a wasted vote.
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