Chinese commies hand Liberals 12 seats

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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 25th, 2021, 2:27 pm
bob vernon wrote: Sep 24th, 2021, 8:30 pm
There was an election. We voted. The Conservatives came second. Grow up and accept it. What a buncha whiners.
"We" didn't vote, that's the point. Our election was rigged by Chinese communists.
Straight from Trump’s playbook. What an evil disgusting statement. So unCanadian. Just yuck.
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LANDM wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 5:58 am
The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 25th, 2021, 2:27 pm

"We" didn't vote, that's the point. Our election was rigged by Chinese communists.
Straight from Trump’s playbook. What an evil disgusting statement. So unCanadian. Just yuck.
It's the losers' technique now, if you lose, it's not about you, it's someone else's fault you lost. If we're going by the States, next up will be all those provinces controlled by the CPC demanding recounts and "forensic" audits of election votes followed by gerrymandering and voter suppression legislation. [icon_lol2.gif]
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nucksRnum1 wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 3:04 am I get a chuckle out of how easy Castapundits on China make everything. Especially the conservative woke ones. China isn't an open country. You go there and you stick out like a sore thumb. Even more, if you send a tall NBA black player. That gets the children and villages talking!

I find it extremely hypocritical to say that China is terrible because of their so-called detention camps - while our closest ally has been holding prisoners in Guantanamo without due process or rights for 20 years. There are still 39 prisoners there to this day in Cuba. No lawyers - no courts - no justice. A conservative republican legacy to this very day. But of course, we have no problem excusing this reality and virtue signalling about China. We have mass graves of starved and neglected indigenous children who for lack of a better term were in "camps" up until the 60's - but that wasn't anyone's fault because it was so many years ago.

The fact is - that as long as we in the "west" continue to give China the ability to point a finger back at us - then we don't have the moral high ground at all. Quite the opposite. We have all seen and heard about the apple devices we crave in the west are made by Chinese who jump off the tops of buildings because they are so miserable. Our consumerism drives that. As such we bear some responsibility. There have been power shifts and rising powers for eons. Right now we have Europe and America in decline while China is on the rise. China has fed our consumerism and materialism. And that gave them the cold hard cash to build a modern military right under our noses.

Back in the early 1800's no one was going to be able to tell America and their naval and trade expansionism to stop. Or tell the Prussians, to go easy in western Africa. Or in the 1600's no one was going to tell France, England, Portugal, the Dutch and Spain not to cavort around the globe and pitch a flag for royalty and country. No one was able to tell the US, UK, Russia and the allies not to carve up Germany or end up in a cold war. Or fight in proxy wars in Asia for material greed and control. And yet here we are - trying to tell a country 5 plus thousand years old - that has 18 percent of the global population alone - that they must capitulate to our economic and material interests - and also give in to our own expansionism in the seas surrounding Asia.

Last I checked - no one was able to make demands of America to end the 20-year war that eventually lead to another war based on lies. And yet here we are thinking we can preach to China? Are people crazy? That is pretty egomaniacal if you ask me. I think people need to wake up and realize that China won't back down. They won't play fair. And they will easily win another protracted war with the same tech or better than we have. And it's because we in the west have become soft. We left Vietnam with a bloody nose despite better tech. We used puppets to fight for us around the globe as a hands-off instigator. We told the Russians to hold my beer in Afghanistan - and finally conceded with a mass exodus just like they did. And as a parting gift, we in the west looked like idiots when we drone struck a family that had nothing to do with the attacks on the airport.

No one cares about Boomer delusions in regards to our ability to be the tough guy around the globe anymore. It's a new century - and we are all along for the ride. Maybe we will all be speaking mandarin soon. You never know. Especially after China buries all of us economically. This may happen soon with the evergreen property holding Ponzi scheme out of China. It's gonna rock the whole globe with our interconnected markets and investments and banks. And then the only thing to be able to print money carte blanche will be another war. Maybe with China. That should be fun to watch.......
I am not a Boomer... but it's weird that you would compare Gitmo to an estimated 3 million Uyghur Muslims in almost 400 internment camps. I do note that you completely avoided the CCP propping up North Korea's concentration camp country.
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I thought this thread was about election interference by the Chinese. Isnt there another thread for US and Chinese atrocities?
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foenix wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 7:20 am I thought this thread was about election interference by the Chinese. Isnt there another thread for US and Chinese atrocities?
One poster asked why we should be interfering in how China runs its government, so past and current atrocities were brought up to show why Canada (and other western governments) should stand up to the CCP. Additionally, these atrocties show why we should be concerned about any potential interference in our elections and governance.
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daria wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 7:25 am
foenix wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 7:20 am I thought this thread was about election interference by the Chinese. Isnt there another thread for US and Chinese atrocities?
One poster asked why we should be interfering in how China runs its government, so past and current atrocities were brought up to show why Canada (and other western governments) should stand up to the CCP. Additionally, these atrocties show why we should be concerned about any potential interference in our elections and governance.
We should be concerned about election interference in our elections, period.......Regardless of the atrocities committed by those countries as that's irrelevant and usually most countries have blood in their past or the present.
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so if they handed 12 seats why did they fail to hand JT a Majority Govt? Or are we now saying the " commies" are both horrid and lazy?
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normaM wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 7:39 am so if they handed 12 seats why did they fail to hand JT a Majority Govt? Or are we now saying the " commies" are both horrid and lazy?
:biggrin: it’s only possible to warp reality so much. Horrid, lazy, but also they must be incompetent and evil. Just yuck. [icon_lol2.gif]
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daria wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 7:02 am
nucksRnum1 wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 3:04 am ...Castapundits on China...
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No one cares about Boomer...
I am not a Boomer... but it's weird that you would compare Gitmo to an estimated 3 million Uyghur Muslims in almost 400 internment camps. I do note that you completely avoided the CCP propping up North Korea's concentration camp country.
Want a history lesson? You've come to the right place. :biggrin:

I'm sure if our canuck boy were running Canada, he would throw every Boomer in a re-education camp.
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Adam Zivo: Canada needs to talk about China's apparent election interference

Though the recent election was mostly an expensive waste of time, it highlighted an emerging problem that all Canadians should be worrying about: China’s interference into Canada’s domestic politics.

For months, disinformation experts have been sounding the alarm about influence campaigns organized by the People’s Republic of China. In February, CSIS noted that China is aggressively targeting Canadians — a sentiment which was echoed by the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians , as well as civil society actors such as the Macdonald-Laurier Institute.

The autocratic regime has been eager to punish international critics of its human rights abuses, as well as others it considers a threat. In Canada, this means undermining Conservative politicians who have been advocating that the federal government do more to stand up to China’s economic imperialism and increasingly coercive foreign policy.

China’s state-backed media insinuated that Canada would experience “counterstrikes” if it elected a Conservative government.

When Conservative MP Kenny Chiu introduced a private member’s bill to set up a registry for foreign government agents (mirroring legislation that already exists in Australia and the United States), Canada’s Chinese communities were flooded with disinformation that vilified him — much of which appears to have originated from the Chinese government.

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The Liberals, on their end, seem unconcerned about this foreign interference into Canada’s politics. This is unsurprising as the Trudeau government has been remarkably soft on China — as exemplified by its complacency with the Uighur genocide.

China is currently detaining approximately one million Muslim Uighurs in re-education camps designed to destroy their cultural identity. Repressive measures inflicted upon the Uighur people, including forced sterilization , has caused their birth rate to plummet by 50 per cent .

In February, the Conservatives forwarded a motion to officially recognize China’s treatment of Uighur Muslims as genocide. The motion was overwhelmingly supported by every party except for the Liberals . No Liberal MP was shameless enough to vote against recognizing an obvious genocide, so, instead, almost half of them simply abstained from voting, including every member of cabinet.

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It is imperative that Canada protect its sovereignty from China, and it is possible (and essential) to do this in a manner that respects Chinese-Canadians. We do not need to compromise, especially when compromise has only left us with a false peace.
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normaM wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 7:39 am so if they handed 12 seats why did they fail to hand JT a Majority Govt?
I think this falls solely on Justin's shoulders for not taking full advantage of his new-found Communist allies.
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daria wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 7:02 am

I am not a Boomer... but it's weird that you would compare Gitmo to an estimated 3 million Uyghur Muslims in almost 400 internment camps. I do note that you completely avoided the CCP propping up North Korea's concentration camp country.
It says a lot though that the Liberals were hesitant and barely willing to vote in favor of the motion to recognize the Uyghur Muslim treatment as genocide. It's obvious now why. They knew they would fall in disfavor with their masters in Beijing, and would lose the communist support in the next election. They need the communists, even though they still couldn't get a majority, even with their help. So therefore, the Liberals say nothing and do nothing, no matter what, to protect their communist partners/masters.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 11:59 am
daria wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 7:02 am

I am not a Boomer... but it's weird that you would compare Gitmo to an estimated 3 million Uyghur Muslims in almost 400 internment camps. I do note that you completely avoided the CCP propping up North Korea's concentration camp country.
It says a lot though that the Liberals were hesitant and barely willing to vote in favor of the motion to recognize the Uyghur Muslim treatment as genocide. It's obvious now why. They knew they would fall in disfavor with their masters in Beijing, and would lose the communist support in the next election. They need the communists, even though they still couldn't get a majority, even with their help. So therefore, the Liberals say nothing and do nothing, no matter what, to protect their communist partners/masters.

Precisely.

The Chinese Communists turning off the cash taps that refill JT’s spending habit might lead to saner spending….and we just cannot have that, can we? Better to suck up to a filthy regime to fuel another in it’s infancy.
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You win the forum today, Cats. :heart: :sunshine: :kiss:
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