Moe is another conservative that doesn't get it

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Trudeau wins an election and the Saskatchewan Premier blames Trudeau for his own health crisis.
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What do Larry and Curly say? :biggrin:
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Scott Moe is leader of the Saskatchewan Party, not the Conservatives.

But let's not let those facts get in the way of a deluded, Liberal, BS-filled rant.
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The Saskatchewan Party is the latest name of the conservative movement in Saskatchewan. They are not liberal in any way anymore. Their necks are red, they are very right wing.

The right wingers in Saskatchewan wore out the Ross Thatcher Liberal name, became Progressive Conservative under Grant Devine and wore out that name as well when one-quarter of their cabinet wound up doing jail time. They re-surfaced as the Saskatchewan Party. They are definitely not "small l" liberal.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Sep 25th, 2021, 8:32 am Scott Moe is leader of the Saskatchewan Party, not the Conservatives.

But let's not let those facts get in the way of a deluded, Liberal, BS-filled rant.
AlSask is the base of the CPC and its ideological fundamentals. If you watch what Kenney and Moe do, it is very much the same as the CPC outside of O'Toole's failed attempt at a phony "leftward ho" election campaign.

Remember the infamous "resistance" picture?? They are peas in pod, the three stooges Moe is Moe, Kenney is Larry, and O'Toole is temporarily Curly - with Scheer playing the departed Shemp. https://www.npr.org/2012/04/14/15059558 ... ncle-shemp

Right now, Curly O'Toole is ailing - and has passed his illness on to Larry Kenney. In real life when Curly was ailing, Shemp returned.

Is that an omen for the return of Scheer to prominence in the group of bumblers?

And yes, the bumbling "Canadian stooges" have totally fluffed the pandemic situation, and it shows their true level of competence - which is near zero. The Conservative stooges have shown they are unable to deal with major challenges because their ideological dogma locks them into poor ability to respond to anything.

Moe never "got it" any more than Mr. "Missed the open net breakaway" Scheer, or "I'll say anything but do nothing" O'Toole or "I'm the loudest guy on a bar stool" Kenney. did. All of them are rooted in the old worn out dogma of the Reform party and the Harper ideological dogma - which is the CPC dogma.

Ralph Klein had it right when he basically told Harper to stuff his "firewall" dogma in a dark place. Ralph Klein was a "character", but he understood a simple reality - "no man is an island" even if it was from a bar stool perspective.

All of the current crop of the "resistance" believe that there is simple playbook to governance that never changes - the Harper book that came out of prairie island mentality. It is easy to think that events around the world, events across the country, events across a province (most Canadian provinces are geologically bigger than the bulk of countries in the world) can be dealt with in a simplistic playbook way - in a rapidly changing world you stick to the same old and build firewalls. Yup, that may seem to work in a island of a small town/village in the vastness of the prairie where the pace of life is steady and slower and driven by routines (till and plant in spring, harvest in fall etc.) - but it really doesn't.

That simplistic viewpoint tends to blame the outside world, dismiss it as crazy, prescribe a simple fix and retreat from it reflexively. That retreat from from a changing world makes for an entirely fundamental inability to adapt and respond to the future. It is reactive and backward looking. The past is gone - never to return. You can't go back there. Trusting that luck will return you to a past prosperity is not a strategy - but I suppose is a necessary part of farming (this year was bad because a blight came up out of the south - but next year it will go away and things will be better) stoicism. The world just doesn't work that way.

And so we see Kenney floundering, and Moe floundering precisely because they stuck without the ability to adapt. Moe has only one advantage over Larry (Kenney) and Curly (O'Toole) - he has a untied caucus that almost never, ever disputes anything - and so is able to maintain the pretense that it "it ain't my fault" and "blame Trudeau", blame Ottawa, blame "lefties", blame the outside world - and carry on with the same failed ideological dogma that is unable to adapt to a world full of surprises and changes.

It is a future ghost town mentality writ large.
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The Saskatchewan Party is just like the UCP. Deadly drunk drivers, grifters and used car salesmen.


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nucksRnum1 wrote: Sep 24th, 2021, 11:51 pm Trudeau wins an election and the Saskatchewan Premier blames Trudeau for his own health crisis.

Let's remember Scott Moe also never took responsibility for killing a young mother in one of his several drunk driving incidents.


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Just another loser

I saw his little rant trying to pass the buck for his failures

At least Quebec just wants the money and for the feds to stay the hell out of their biz
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Terrible.

Remember when Justin Trudeau appointed a woman to be Governor General, the highest ranking leader in Canada, after she killed a pedestrian and was arrested for assault?

That's the thing about slinging *bleep*. Ultimately, it blows right back in your dirty face.

Scott Moe has done a lot for the people of his province. The drippy-nosed Trudeau fan club have never been out of their moms' basements.
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 8:58 am Terrible.

Remember when Justin Trudeau appointed a woman to be Governor General, the highest ranking leader in Canada, after she killed a pedestrian and was arrested for assault?

That's the thing about slinging *bleep*. Ultimately, it blows right back in your dirty face.

Scott Moe has done a lot for the people of his province. The drippy-nosed Trudeau fan club have never been out of their moms' basements.
Lol. Pretty lame. The usual CON retorts of nonsense - "but what about". Whataboutism is not a response, it is just deflection and pretense.

Wall and Moe have done some super shady sat5uff that has hurt a lot of folks in Saskatchewan. One that I am aware of is the ongoing degradation and rorting of public funds to pad the profits of private LTC home operators, sweeping abuses and neglects under the rug.

What Moe and Sask party did was take federal home care money, hire "home" care workers, and then second them to private LTC facilities to provide the services that employees of private LTC were supposed to provide - while at the same time short staffing public LTC homes and deliberately not doing required maintenance on those publicly owned LTC facilities.

Moe isn't helping Sask residents by closing out the public facilities, Moe is skimming public $$$ into private hands.
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It's not Moe's fault. Because he's a small "c" conservative in Saskatchewan, he worships all things Albertan and will do anything to reach the perceived levels of wealth in Alberta. Most Saskatchewanians have relatives in Alberta who make far more money than the folks back home in Saskatchewan. They want the same, but can't quite figger out that Alberta had a lot more oil under the ground. And so they are willing to do anything that Albertans do.

Moe always waits for the Alberta premier to make a move, and then Saskatchewan follows a day or so later. It's in Moe's DNA to follow Kenney's lead. It's almost like Kenney is a ventriloquist and Moe is his dummy. Yeah, yeah, that's it.
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If you want to see "two peas in a pod" results, this is grim: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatch ... -1.6191446

Have a look at the death rate chart. It is grim and tragic. Everybody is struggling with the delta variant, but only Moe and Kenney followed the idiotic "DeSantis" far right approach.

BC is also struggling with the delta variant, but look at the difference! And BC has a relatively incompetent NDP government!

Manitoba was on the same sort of path until Pallister was forced to resign. Then Pallister no longer had "political ideology" to worry about (gone anyway) so he started making sensible decisions. What a difference! Same sort of rural population etc. but Manitoba is doing much, much better!

We know that AlSask is the heartland of CPC ideology, and compare that AlSask ideological approach to a real world problem to the rest of the provinces that generally don't subscribe to it. The AlSask ideology dogma is a disaster when a real world problem strikes!
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crookedmember wrote: Sep 25th, 2021, 10:30 am

Let's remember Scott Moe also never took responsibility for killing a young mother in one of his several drunk driving incidents.


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hobbyguy wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 11:56 am
Gone_Fishin wrote: Sep 26th, 2021, 8:58 am Terrible.

Remember when Justin Trudeau appointed a woman to be Governor General, the highest ranking leader in Canada, after she killed a pedestrian and was arrested for assault?

That's the thing about slinging *bleep*. Ultimately, it blows right back in your dirty face.

Scott Moe has done a lot for the people of his province. The drippy-nosed Trudeau fan club have never been out of their moms' basements.
Lol. Pretty lame. The usual CON retorts of nonsense - "but what about". Whataboutism is not a response, it is just deflection and pretense.

Wall and Moe have done some super shady sat5uff that has hurt a lot of folks in Saskatchewan. One that I am aware of is the ongoing degradation and rorting of public funds to pad the profits of private LTC home operators, sweeping abuses and neglects under the rug.

What Moe and Sask party did was take federal home care money, hire "home" care workers, and then second them to private LTC facilities to provide the services that employees of private LTC were supposed to provide - while at the same time short staffing public LTC homes and deliberately not doing required maintenance on those publicly owned LTC facilities.

Moe isn't helping Sask residents by closing out the public facilities, Moe is skimming public $$$ into private hands.
I find it interesting that you claim his response was a deflection and classic whataboutism response. Did you read your own response? Did you deflect the comment about JT's shady move and resort to your own whataboutisms?

The fact remains that many politicians are not doing what is best for the people of this country. If this was the case all of us law-abiding, tax-paying citizens would not feel as though it was the other way around. Many laws and policies need to change to prevent corruption and protect the innocent, funny how the CPC was the only one to make any promises to that effect.

Now had JT been innocent in all of the accusations he had been accused of we would have heard the truth and not had it hidden behind redacted documents and the proroguing of parliament when he was in the hot seat. Or maybe he would have promised a change to the process to increase clarity and remove ways of hiding the truth. It's shocking to see how many people in this country still voted for him knowing all of this.

So my question to you Liberal members is, do you not want the truth? Or do you think he was 100% innocent?
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