Pessimistic about climate

[The Green Barbarian]

Climate change has always been low on most peoples priority list, even lower outside of the west.

But if you parrot a lie enough times, people start to believe it. I like how instead of "climate change" now the verbiage has become "climate crisis". Even though there is no proof that man is affecting the climate in any way. But because not enough people were scared and living in fear, let's change the wording to make it even scarier. As soon as I hear a politician using the terms "fair share" or "climate crisis", I know that they are a lying bonehead, to be completely dismissed as a charlatan and loser.

[fluffy]

Glacier is correct.

Yes he is, according to the source he quoted, which does have a decent record for truth.

But that doesn't say that the threat of man-made climate change isn't worthy of attention. What downplaying the threat does however, is delay significant action to deal with the threat, which will only make it that much more painful when it does come. I respect everyone's right to an opinion, but a moral line gets crossed when that opinion is knowingly based on bad information.

[The Green Barbarian]

But that doesn't say that the threat of man-made climate change isn't worthy of attention.

I'd say that's exactly what it means.

[Jlabute]

But that doesn't say that the threat of man-made climate change isn't worthy of attention. What downplaying the threat does however, is delay significant action to deal with the threat, which will only make it that much more painful when it does come. I respect everyone's right to an opinion, but a moral line gets crossed when that opinion is knowingly based on bad information.

When what comes? So far, there is no indication anything is coming except for background noise and errors in models. Therefore there is no significant threat or change. Are you expecting that on the last day of the predicted tenth year (again) a Kaiju will pop out of the ocean and eat everyone? This is more believable than humans using erroneous models to foretell the future. The moral line has already been crossed using bad policies based on bad models to lie to mankind… just like the Trump Russia collusion lie.

[fluffy]

Sorry, not getting drawn into yet another argument with zombies. You guys really need to turn off your internet and pick up a book.

[The Green Barbarian]

Sorry, not getting drawn into yet another argument with zombies. You guys really need to turn off your internet and pick up a book.

So once again, a quick insult and off you go when confronted with actual facts about the man-made climate change myth. I've seen zombies in action, and their name is Thunberg.

[ferri]

[d0nb]

Thankfully, Canadians again elected a government that understands things like science and math,

We wish. Trudeau and his nonsensical policies were rightly rejected by a large majority of voters.

so the fringe beliefs of a few far right crazies about climate change being a fairy tale aren't really relevant at all.

No one has said that climate change is a fairy tale; that is reserved for the fantastical notion that “taking action” (imposing energy poverty, shortages and inflation on the most vulnerable) is anything less than a monumentally foolish and arrogant charade that will precipitate death and misery on a global scale.

It’s all good though, as long as the elites continue to profit from government “green” handouts.

[crookedmember]

The fact is CPC delegates recently voted down a resolution declaring climate change as real, before grabbing their clubs and returning to their caves.

Despite the Neanderthals of the foundering CPC, things are changing. Tesla's market capitalization is now more than the entire S&P energy index.

All car manufacturers are committed to transitioning to electric over the next few years. Sure, flushing the fleet will take years, but it is happening.

And my God, have you seen the number of Teslas in Kelowna? Everybody wants one. It's not exactly a hard sell.

[hozzle]

Wooohoo!!!!
COP26 has 11,000 observers and that doesn't include the delegate's entourage. It's safe to assume that not all of the attendees are from Scotland. So if we conservatively figure 5000 people flew to the event, and 10 individuals on avg. were on the same flight, that still adds 500 x 20 tonnes of CO2 to the environment!!!

Blatant hypocrisy at its finest because most of the "observers" are so-called climate activists, lol

... and as for the carbon tax, well, give me my credits!
Canada produces over 700,000,000 tonnes if CO2 a yr, while our trees scrub 3,500,000,000 tonnes a yr.

Carbon Tax is a scam!!!!

[The Green Barbarian]

The fact is CPC delegates recently voted down a resolution declaring climate change as real,

It was "man made climate change", not climate change. The climate is always changing. Amazing to me how the enviro-nuts always seem to get this wrong.

[The Green Barbarian]

And it's deja vu all over again - the goal posts just keep getting moved, but it's the same fear-mongering nonsense. These islands were all supposed to be under water 10 years ago. What's going on?? What aren't the models coming true???

As countries and the private sector make climate pledges, this island nation fears for its future

The president of Seychelles says his country remains in "grave danger" because of climate change and that developed countries must step up, as states continue to negotiate potentially more ambitious climate commitments at COP26 and the private sector pledges its own dollars to the global effort.

Wavel Ramkalawan says much of his country, which comprises more than 100 small islands in the Indian Ocean, could be erased by rising sea levels and erosion.

"We are being destroyed. But the sad thing is, it's not really the Seychelles that will be destroyed. It's the planet, it's the one planet that we have," Ramkalawan said in an interview on Sunday on Rosemary Barton Live.

He told CBC chief political correspondent Rosemary Barton that the failure of developed nations to reach a goal this year of committing $100 billion US to help the developing world fight climate change is a "disappointment."

Developed countries talked about providing billions of dollars when it comes to helping the climate, but trillions were already spent on priorities such as the military, Ramkalawan said.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/a ... d=msedgntp

I like this disclaimer that the CBC puts on every man-made climate change propaganda story now:

Our planet is changing. So is our journalism. This story is part of a CBC News initiative entitled to show and explain the effects of climate change and what is being done about it.

Yes CBC, our planet is changing. It always has, it always will. But what isn't changing is CBC's "journalism". That isn't changing at all - still reporting fear mongering nonsense and total BS. It's what the CBC does best.

[foenix]

Glacier is correct.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/117 ... canadians/

Leftists also call COVID an existential crisis. If 1% of the population dies, there wont be any humans left at all. Makes one wonder what a leftist means by existential crisis. Probably has something to do with the personal existence of the brain cells that hold on to the lie. Climate change has always been low on most peoples priority list, even lower outside of the west.

It's good thing there was something that came out so that Covid didn't become an existential crisis.....peeps forget about things like that when a solution comes by in the neck of time. It's good thing climate change is a high priority in most people's priority list or it also morph into an existential crisis in the future.

https://theconversation.com/climate-act ... ans-156739

[Jlabute]

COVID would never have been an 'existential crisis', with or without a vaccine or treatments. Climate is not an existential crisis either. Over the last 100 years, fewer and fewer people are dying from weather related events. No evidence exists it will ever be an existential crisis. This is more a political priority than public priority. This is why the Biden admin is failing. Too stupid too fast, destroying the economy, creating division, buying oil from Saudi instead of America which is worse.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... -for-2021/



Climate related deaths approaching zero.

[The Green Barbarian]

COVID would never have been an 'existential crisis', with or without a vaccine or treatments. Climate is not an existential crisis either. Over the last 100 years, fewer and fewer people are dying from weather related events. No evidence exists it will ever be an existential crisis. This is more a political priority than public priority. This is why the Biden admin is failing. Too stupid too fast, destroying the economy, creating division, buying oil from Saudi instead of America which is worse.


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https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... -for-2021/



Climate related deaths approaching zero.

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where are the tens of millions of "climate refugees" that the "models" all predicted would be fleeing their "climate ravaged" homes due to the "climate crisis"? The UN keeps moving the goal posts and then having to re-introduce this fear-mongering nonsense, always with zero accountability or anyone saying "Hang on, you can't just keep making the same prediction and being wrong every single time, at some point this fairy tale has to end".