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erinmore3775 wrote: Nov 22nd, 2021, 2:13 pm For those who watched the CPAC Coverage of the election of the House of Commons Speaker. What was noticeable was the eight empty seats ( there could have been more but view was limited by camera angles) in the area occupied by the CPC Opposition members. It would appear that some CPC members could not enter the House for some reason or other.

Mr O'Toole during his welcoming message demonstrated leadership and a dedication to representing all Canadians. He was loudly supported by his members. Time will tell if that support lasts more than a day. Hopefully, the CPC can remain unified enough to provide a substantial and credible criticism.

Mr. Blanchet did insist that all members on the Parliament be fully vaccinated. This will be an interesting session since the battle lines seem to have been drawn. The Speech from themThrone tomorrow,
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Yup, just another example of O’Toole’s complete and total failure to lead. O’Toole has done a great job making the CPC the laughing stock of Canadian politics and is a true embarrassment to right wingers everywhere.
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I’m not sure what’s funnier about O’Toole’s crumbling CPC - the fact that he still calls himself a leader or that there are O’Toole supporters swooning over love letters from their disgraced and incompetent leader.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 22nd, 2021, 4:10 pm
Hello Reg,

Parliament has (finally) returned. It’s been months since elected Members have sat in the people’s House. And in that time, we’ve seen no shortage of crises and important work get ignored by the Trudeau Liberals.

From day one of my leadership, I committed to you, and all Canadians, that our team will be relentlessly focused on the job at hand – holding the Liberals accountable, getting our economy back on track, and healing the division in this country caused by the politics of Justin Trudeau.

Anything short of that focus is simply not acceptable to me.

We have a strong team of dedicated members of the Conservative caucus ready to take the fight to the Liberals on the issues that matter, and each one of us know our focus and attention needs to be on the everyday things that affect you and your family.

With the economy struggling, housing becoming more unaffordable, inflation at an 18 year high, supply chain disruptions, and a widespread natural disaster in British Columbia, I’m not going to be asking you for a donation today.

While the work we do as a party comes at significant financial cost, and as the year comes to a close after an expensive and unnecessary election called by Trudeau, you will hear from our team about what you can do to help us – today though, I just wanted to update you on the work our Conservative team is actually doing rather than the headlines you might read, pushed by those that would rather disrupt that work than let us focus on the work ahead.

What will you hear from us? You’ll hear Pierre Poilievre hold the Liberals accountable on the growing inflation leaving less money on your paycheque. You’ll hear Michelle Rempel outline the attacks on our natural resource jobs from an ideological Justin Trudeau. You’ll hear John Brassard staying busy just trying to keep up with the latest ethical failing from the Trudeau Liberals. And Raquel Dancho and Rob Moore will take charge on the growing crime problem under this government’s watch.

Plus so many other strong, passionate Conservative members holding the Liberals accountable whether it’s on censorship, national unity or the “Ottawa knows best approach” to everything they do.

And me? I’m not ever going to let Justin Trudeau off the hook for his disastrous economic management.

If he thinks he didn’t enjoy Question Period before, just wait until he has to face off against our team again.

That’s the important work we’re going to be doing. And while the Liberals and their friends will do everything they can to distract us from that, my message to them is simple – you won’t.

There is too much at stake. There are too many things going wrong in this country. Our entire Conservative team is focused on ensuring the Liberals no longer get a free ride.

The Liberals have divided this country. Conservatives will unite it.

Justin Trudeau has failed our economy. I will secure it again.

On behalf of our entire Conservative caucus, thank you for everything you do for our movement.

Sincerely,
Erin O’Toole
Leader of Canada’s Conservatives
What a great leader, doing such a fantastic job. Keep up the great work Erin!
What a load of malarkey from the Noriega wannabe wee Erin!

80% of Canadians support vaccine mandates - but not the cowardly O'Toole.

80% of Canadians support stronger guns laws, but not the cowardly O'Toole.

75% of Canadians support LGBTQ rights, but not the regressive CPC under O'Toole the waffler

77% of Canadians support a woman's right to choose, but not the regressive CPC under O'Toole the waffler.

71% of Canadians want strong actions on man made climate change, but not the regressive CPC under O'Toole the waffler.

Who is the real divisive person and party - why O'Toole and the CPC who are constantly on the backward side of history, science and logic. The whole thing with the CPC is that it has become a collection of mixed nuts.
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hobbyguy wrote: Nov 22nd, 2021, 5:14 pm
The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 22nd, 2021, 4:10 pm

What a great leader, doing such a fantastic job. Keep up the great work Erin!
What a load of malarkey from the Noriega wannabe wee Erin!

80% of Canadians support vaccine mandates - but not the cowardly O'Toole.

80% of Canadians support stronger guns laws, but not the cowardly O'Toole.

75% of Canadians support LGBTQ rights, but not the regressive CPC under O'Toole the waffler

77% of Canadians support a woman's right to choose, but not the regressive CPC under O'Toole the waffler.

71% of Canadians want strong actions on man made climate change, but not the regressive CPC under O'Toole the waffler.

Who is real divisive person and party - why O'Toole and the CPC who are constantly on the backward side of history, science and logic. The whole thing with the CPC is that it has become a collection of mixed nuts.
Great points. I feel like right-wingers are taking crazy pills.
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hobbyguy wrote: Nov 22nd, 2021, 5:14 pm
What a load of malarkey from the Noriega wannabe wee Erin!
Actually, this was not a load of Malarkey, and not sure what the "Noriega" comment is all about, but I'm sure it's something childish and asinine so not going to bother caring too much.

Erin is doing a fantastic job - and he's not "wee" either. He's a great leader, and leading an amazing party. Go Erin!!
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Things just keep getting worse for the disgraced and defeated Erin O’Toole. Just one day back in parliament and the CPC is already showcasing how fractured and rudderless it’s become under O’Toole’s failed leadership.
Tory vaccination status in spotlight after MP tests positive on eve of new Parliament

Concern over the vaccination status of Conservative MPs was front and centre on the eve of a new session of Parliament after one of them tested positive for COVID-19.

Quebec MP Richard Lehoux's diagnosis added urgency to the push by Liberals and New Democrats to continue with a hybrid format in the House of Commons, which would give MPs the option of participating in proceedings virtually.

And it prompted government House leader Mark Holland to suggest Sunday that the Commons needs to adopt a system for verifying the validity of medical exemptions claimed by an unknown number of Conservative MPs.

Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole has said he and all his 118 MPs will be in the House when it returns Monday, either because they're fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or because they have a medical exemption. He has repeatedly refused to say how many are not fully immunized.
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Given the Conservatives' mixed views on vaccination, Holland suggested the party can't be trusted to police its MPs who claim a medical exemption.

"I'm deeply uncomfortable with their circumstance," Holland said in an interview Sunday.

He said public health experts estimate that one to five people out of 100,000 would have valid medical reasons not to get vaccinated. Thus, he said it's hard to believe there would be multiple Conservatives out of a group of just 119 MPs who would have legitimate exemptions.

That would be "the equivalent of winning the Lotto 6/49 six times. It just is statistically utterly improbable," he said.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/tory-v ... -1.5675274
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Nov 22nd, 2021, 5:33 pm
hobbyguy wrote: Nov 22nd, 2021, 5:14 pm
What a load of malarkey from the Noriega wannabe wee Erin!
Actually, this was not a load of Malarkey, and not sure what the "Noriega" comment is all about, but I'm sure it's something childish and asinine so not going to bother caring too much.

Erin is doing a fantastic job - and he's not "wee" either. He's a great leader, and leading an amazing party. Go Erin!!
Here's answer to your question regarding the Noriega reference: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion ... he-leader/

There’s a word for a system that demands unanimous support for the leader, and it isn’t democracy

The dilemma facing the Conservative leader – the dilemma facing any Conservative leader – is familiar. To win the party leadership, you have to have one set of policies. To win the country you have to have another.

Erin O’Toole’s solution to this dilemma was equally familiar. To bridge the gap between party and public, he simply promised them each different things, hoping the first would not mind and the second would not notice. And indeed, had the public not noticed, and Mr. O’Toole been elected, the party would probably not have minded, much. Power is the ultimate sedative.

Alas, you can only push this so far. The contradictions – between pricing carbon and not pricing it, banning automatic weapons and not banning them, and so on – were too glaring. Eventually the country got wise; then the party got mad. A leader who sacrificed principle for power might be forgiven, as might a leader who sacrificed power for principle. But a leader who sacrificed both, for nothing – who sold them out and still lost? That’s a hard thing to survive.

Hence Mr. O’Toole’s latest persona: neither the angry ideologue of the leadership race nor the smiling pragmatist of the election, but the hardened autocrat, practised dealer in the harsher sort of power politics, willing to do whatever it takes to hold onto his office.

SNIP

"Conservatives are united only by the belief that someone else should not be in power. It should not be entirely surprising to find that principle applied within their own ranks.

A strong leader, or at least a realistic one, does not insist on unanimous shows of support. Unanimity is not found in democracies (although it is found in the Liberal caucus, which last week voted unanimously not to arm itself with any of the Reform Act’s four powers), and in any case support is usually best offered rather than demanded.

If Mr. O’Toole feels he has the support of the party, he has no need to hide from its judgment. He should welcome a review of his leadership, and the sooner the better. Or if he does not have the support of the party, why is he still leader?"

That's Andrew Coyne's take.

And yup, "wee Erin" is indeed apropos, the guy is hopelessly lost among the CPC party of mixed nuts.
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Things just keep getting worse for the disastrously crumbling CPC under O'Toole. Whenever it seems that the CPC couldn't possibly embarrass itself any more, O'Toole finds another carton of eggs to throw all over his already stinking party.

What an embarrassing time to be conservative.
Erin O’Toole’s Tories make Justin Trudeau’s life easy

At a news conference on Monday as Parliament resumed, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh complained that in a time of pandemic, floods in B.C. and high costs of living, all Canadians hear from the Conservatives are the party’s demands for “special treatment” to avoid vaccination.

“They should be embarrassed,”
Mr. Singh said.

But the thing is, the Conservatives already are embarrassed.
At least, many Conservatives are. This “are-you-vaccinated” stuff has made some believe the party sympathizes with vaccine hesitancy. Erin O’Toole, the party’s leader, has been embarrassed over and over.

And certainly, Mr. O’Toole and most of his caucus of MPs would very much like the Canadian public to hear other things about the Conservative Party besides speculation about MPs’ vaccination status. But the party just can’t seem to let go. It just can’t seem to tell the world that all its MPs are vaccinated – or conversely, that X number remain unvaccinated, with an explanation.

So it was no surprise that Mr. Singh and the Liberal ministers came back to Parliament hoping to stir up that pot. Yet Mr. O’Toole’s party still didn’t have a simple answer.
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conservatives are naturally more highly evolved than leftist Liberals and NDPers. God bestowed a more resistant immune system on conservatives and they don't require the vaccines that the weak Liberal and NDP immune systems require. Therefore, there are some Conservatives in the House this week without vaccinations. It's because they don't need them and thankfully there are doctors who will give them an exemption from vaccines.
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bob vernon wrote: Nov 23rd, 2021, 11:24 am conservatives are naturally more highly evolved than leftist Liberals and NDPers.
And far more intelligent too!

Erin is by far the best leader of any party in our government, and he's doing a fantastic job. So much smarter than his opponents. Great job Erin! :up:
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