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Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 1:29 pm
foenix wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 12:46 pm With Perre, he's got his own issues, like keeping the trap shut.
he's going to make Canada "the freest country in the world"
I wonder what he meant by that?
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oldtrucker wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 1:55 pm
Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 1:29 pm he's going to make Canada "the freest country in the world"
I wonder what he meant by that?
It's populist rhetoric. Canada is already one of the freest countries in the world.
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Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:01 pm
oldtrucker wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 1:55 pm
I wonder what he meant by that?
It's populist rhetoric. Canada is already one of the freest countries in the world.
Is it?
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oldtrucker wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:08 pm
Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:01 pm Canada is already one of the freest countries in the world.
Is it?
Top 10 Freest Countries in the World - 2020 Human Freedom Index

1. New Zealand - 8.87
2. Switzerland - 8.82
3. Hong Kong (China) - 8.74
4. Denmark - 8.73
5. Australia - 8.68
6. Canada - 8.64
7. Ireland - 8.62
8. Estonia - 8.54
9. Germany - 8.52 (tie)
10. Sweden - 8.52 (tie)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... -countries
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Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:14 pm
oldtrucker wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:08 pm
Is it?
Top 10 Freest Countries in the World - 2020 Human Freedom Index

1. New Zealand - 8.87
2. Switzerland - 8.82
3. Hong Kong (China) - 8.74
4. Denmark - 8.73
5. Australia - 8.68
6. Canada - 8.64
7. Ireland - 8.62
8. Estonia - 8.54
9. Germany - 8.52 (tie)
10. Sweden - 8.52 (tie)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... -countries
One wonders how they calculated that #6 ranking for Canada, given our almost-dead-last "personal freedom" ranking of #163:
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https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... by-country

Poilievre may be onto something here. Or, the website needs work. Maybe both.
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Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:14 pm
oldtrucker wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:08 pm
Is it?
Top 10 Freest Countries in the World - 2020 Human Freedom Index

1. New Zealand - 8.87
2. Switzerland - 8.82
3. Hong Kong (China) - 8.74
4. Denmark - 8.73
5. Australia - 8.68
6. Canada - 8.64
7. Ireland - 8.62
8. Estonia - 8.54
9. Germany - 8.52 (tie)
10. Sweden - 8.52 (tie)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/count ... -countries
Please explain how Hong Kong China is freer than Canada........

If that is actually true then we have a problem here.
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Nedroj wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:50 pm Please explain how Hong Kong China is freer than Canada........

If that is actually true then we have a problem here.
That's a good question. It does say 2020 Human Freedom Index. Still.

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Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 3:01 pm

Skippy P to save us :D
Who?
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Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 3:01 pm That's a good question. It does say 2020 Human Freedom Index. Still.

Maybe we do need Skippy P to save us :D
LOL Skippy P! Hilarious! :up:
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Pappywinkle wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 5:06 pm
Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 3:01 pm That's a good question. It does say 2020 Human Freedom Index. Still.

Maybe we do need Skippy P to save us :D
LOL Skippy P! Hilarious! :up:
Sounds like a nervous laughter.
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Nedroj wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:50 pm
Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:14 pm

Please explain how Hong Kong China is freer than Canada........

If that is actually true then we have a problem here.
Why not read the report?
The HFI also finds a strong relationship between
human freedom and democracy. Hong Kong is
an outlier in this regard. Although Hong Kong’s
ratings and rankings have decreased since 2008,
the impact of the Chinese Communist Party’s
unprecedented interventions in the territory in
2019 and 2020 are not reflected in this year’s
report (which, as noted, is based on 2018 data).
Those recent events will likely decrease Hong
Kong’s score noticeably in the future
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rustled wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:27 pm
Ka-El wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:14 pm

One wonders how they calculated that #6 ranking for Canada, given our almost-dead-last "personal freedom" ranking of #163:
I don't see "personal freedom" in this list.....
he 12 Categories of the Human Freedom Index:

Rule of Law
Security and Safety
Movement
Religion
Association, Assembly, and Civil Society
Expression and Information
Identity and Relationships
Size of Government
Legal System and Property Rights
Access to Sound Money
Freedom to Trade Internationally
Regulation
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foenix wrote: Feb 9th, 2022, 6:33 am
Nedroj wrote: Feb 7th, 2022, 2:50 pm

Please explain how Hong Kong China is freer than Canada........

If that is actually true then we have a problem here.
Why not read the report?
The HFI also finds a strong relationship between
human freedom and democracy. Hong Kong is
an outlier in this regard. Although Hong Kong’s
ratings and rankings have decreased since 2008,
the impact of the Chinese Communist Party’s
unprecedented interventions in the territory in
2019 and 2020 are not reflected in this year’s
report (which, as noted, is based on 2018 data).
Those recent events will likely decrease Hong
Kong’s score noticeably in the future
I and all the Chinese Canadians I know and am friends with would ALL kindly disagree that Canada is less free than Hong Kong even back 10 years ago. This report has no merit and is probably more Communists propaganda.
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Nedroj wrote: Feb 9th, 2022, 7:25 am
foenix wrote: Feb 9th, 2022, 6:33 am

Why not read the report?

I and all the Chinese Canadians I know and am friends with would ALL kindly disagree that Canada is less free than Hong Kong even back 10 years ago. This report has no merit and is probably more Communists propaganda.
Is that right?......, then I guess the ultra right wing Fraser Institute is guilty of "Communist propaganda"? Although, I agree with you that they usually have no merit.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies ... index-2021
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foenix wrote: Feb 9th, 2022, 7:44 am
Nedroj wrote: Feb 9th, 2022, 7:25 am

I and all the Chinese Canadians I know and am friends with would ALL kindly disagree that Canada is less free than Hong Kong even back 10 years ago. This report has no merit and is probably more Communists propaganda.
Is that right?......, then I guess the ultra right wing Fraser Institute is guilty of "Communist propaganda"? Although, I agree with you that they usually have no merit.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies ... index-2021
Ok after reading the report its not clear where or how Hong Kong ranks higher than Canada.
The countries that took the top 10 places, in order, were Switzerland, New Zealand, Denmark, Estonia, Ireland, Canada and Finland (tied at 6), Australia, Sweden, and Luxembourg. Selected jurisdictions rank as follows: United Kingdom (14), Germany, Japan, and the United States (tied at 15), Taiwan (19), Chile (28), Hong Kong (30), South Korea (31), France (34), Argentina (74), South Africa (77), Brazil (78), Mexico (93), India (119), Nigeria (123), Russia (126), Turkey (139), China (150), Saudi Arabia (155), Iran (160), Venezuela (164), and Syria (165).
So how does Hong Kong rank 30th in the jurisdiction rank and China rank 150th but yet Hong Kong is freer than Canada which holds the 6th position for the freest country tied with Finland?

Also you made a point that the Data used is based on 2018 data. This is incorrect as per the report itself.
The HFI covers 165 jurisdictions for 2019, the most recent year for which sufficient data are available.
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