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Alien Head Dude wrote: May 5th, 2022, 6:06 am

An increase in perceived threat to privilege, in perceived threat to economic advantage, an unwillingness to share
All of which is pure speculation, with zero actual evidence. Conjecture. Purely to create a non-existent bogeyman. What else is new.
all fueled by right-wing disinformation
And here we have it. Disinformation being spread about sources of disinformation. You just can't make up this nonsense, it's too insane.
intended to increase division and hate.
Oh brother, more hyperbole.
Increased extremism on both sides but mostly far right extremist efforts to villianize any idea of coming together (the weaponization of "wokeism" for example).
Glad to see that there's finally SOME blame being meted out to the Leftist extremists here, but still way way off base. "Coming together" - sure saw a lot of that during the convoy protests. Don't see any of it from the Left, and definitely didn't see any of it from the twin spineless wonder Justin and Jagmeet.
The increased need to find scapegoats for global challenges (COVID-flu, Trudeau, etc.) instead of any willingness to accept any responsibility for being a part of positive change.
More Orwellian double-speak. "Positive change" - what does this term mean? I see it and I can feel the warmth of the glowing tummies of the virtue-signaling fools who post such terms coming through the computer screen. What is it? And also, what defines other Orwellian terms like "Pay your fair share"? No one ever defines these terms, they just want to bask in their own glow of awesomeness from their virtue-signaling.
Many possible factors contributing. Hobbyguy also had a good answer.
No, he really didn't have a good answer. At all.
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I_am_a_Liberal wrote: May 4th, 2022, 9:35 pm Why haven't we figured this out? I blame conservatives......
And I blame the Left and Liberals. Most definitely. Look at the low-brow behavior of those on the Left on these forums. Most topics are immediately hijacked with the same lies about "right-wing disinformation" and stupid nick-names. It makes sensible discussion almost impossible, but that's the point - keep us all divided. Keep the disinformation flowing about "hate" and blaming only one side - it's all politically motivated and so transparent. And just so sad.
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liisgo wrote: May 5th, 2022, 8:36 am
I_am_a_Liberal wrote: May 4th, 2022, 9:35 pm I wonder what it is in our makeup as people - that there is a penchant for focusing on the hate of others. After hundreds of thousands of years (not 6000) why has this been a constant? Why haven't we figured this out? I blame conservatives......
Its being used as nothing more than a weapon to demonize, divide the people in the quest for political party support.
The Liberals, under JT, has put our country into a theatre of social attacking against the other.
Listen to so many here who actually believe they have some new found moral stance based only on one thing. Claiming their political leader. As it is continued to be allowed, more civil unrest will form.
Most would clearly see that anyone being controlled to use such hate against other citizens is definitely an act of extremism.
Why does any political party need to image bash so bad the other. Nazi's, women haters, supremacy, racist, misogynistic, deniers, haters, violent, offenders, gun lovers, all are part of this current liberal party?
I blame the current government for not controlling, managing a country that never had this problem to this extent ever in the history of it. Seems the government of the day is living in the mess they created.
We once had a CEO that said the companies problems were always the other guy.
The new CEO formally apologized to the over 100,000 employee's via the national news media for this absurd behavior, and promised it would never be allowed to be part of the organization again.
We need someone to take a stand against this newly established hatred and the people using it for political and emotional power.
Thanks for screwing up a good thing.
Yet, here we are...............demonizing one side when the problem is on both sides.
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Everything's a crisis now.

I find it interesting that the same people who worked so hard to convince us to focus on everyone's victimhood are now fixated on what they're calling hate crimes.

Convince people we are victims by (race, gender, religion culture, sexual preference), and hey presto! Gloomily announce the the natural and inevitable consequences of having convinced people we are all victims of each other, while shirking any responsibility for those natural and inevitable consequences.

Convince people to report any negative interaction that could be considered a hate crime, and hey presto! Gloomily announce the results, using the most statistically titillating terms possible. A six-fold increase! Horrors! Few people will bother to look at the underlying stats, how they were collected, what they actually show.

Emotion trumps critical thought in this race to the mucky bottom, sponsored by people with a savior complex and the people who benefit from easily distracting people who mean well by allowing us to be convinced we must solve problems that have been blown out of proportion.
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rustled wrote: May 5th, 2022, 9:40 am Emotion trumps critical thought in this race to the mucky bottom, sponsored by people with a savior complex and the people who benefit from easily distracting people who mean well by allowing us to be convinced we must solve problems that have been blown out of proportion.
Yes, and the far right occupation of Ottawa is a prime example of what manipulating those unable to think critically can lead to.
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rustled wrote: May 5th, 2022, 9:40 am Everything's a crisis now.

I find it interesting that the same people who worked so hard to convince us to focus on everyone's victimhood are now fixated on what they're calling hate crimes.

Convince people we are victims by (race, gender, religion culture, sexual preference), and hey presto! Gloomily announce the the natural and inevitable consequences of having convinced people we are all victims of each other, while shirking any responsibility for those natural and inevitable consequences.

Convince people to report any negative interaction that could be considered a hate crime, and hey presto! Gloomily announce the results, using the most statistically titillating terms possible. A six-fold increase! Horrors! Few people will bother to look at the underlying stats, how they were collected, what they actually show.

Emotion trumps critical thought in this race to the mucky bottom, sponsored by people with a savior complex and the people who benefit from easily distracting people who mean well by allowing us to be convinced we must solve problems that have been blown out of proportion.
:up: :up:

But...but...how do I get my daily warm tummy fire so that I can bask in the glow of my own virtue-signaling, if there is no actual issue here that I can sanctimoniously blather on about to demonstrate my warm tummy bonafides to people I don't know but want to like me? I'm going to stick with making up nonsense and then virtue signaling about it, it makes me feel so much better inside.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: May 5th, 2022, 9:58 am
rustled wrote: May 5th, 2022, 9:40 am Everything's a crisis now.

I find it interesting that the same people who worked so hard to convince us to focus on everyone's victimhood are now fixated on what they're calling hate crimes.

Convince people we are victims by (race, gender, religion culture, sexual preference), and hey presto! Gloomily announce the the natural and inevitable consequences of having convinced people we are all victims of each other, while shirking any responsibility for those natural and inevitable consequences.

Convince people to report any negative interaction that could be considered a hate crime, and hey presto! Gloomily announce the results, using the most statistically titillating terms possible. A six-fold increase! Horrors! Few people will bother to look at the underlying stats, how they were collected, what they actually show.

Emotion trumps critical thought in this race to the mucky bottom, sponsored by people with a savior complex and the people who benefit from easily distracting people who mean well by allowing us to be convinced we must solve problems that have been blown out of proportion.
:up: :up:

But...but...how do I get my daily warm tummy fire so that I can bask in the glow of my own virtue-signaling, if there is no actual issue here that I can sanctimoniously blather on about to demonstrate my warm tummy bonafides to people I don't know but want to like me? I'm going to stick with making up nonsense and then virtue signaling about it, it makes me feel so much better inside.

Awesome.
There is a whole mob made in our country that is using their new found wokeness to virtue signal around. One would think anyone would be happy with themselves just in keeping it to themselves. But, as we see, its not about a personal recognition or bettering oneself, its a methood to behold to have some merit they never had before. Something to stand on for once.
Only problem, its dividing the people and ruining our once great peaceful nation.
The rest of society doesn't need to have a reconning with being racist, hate driven, extremme etc, etc.
Don't get me wrong, its great for people to see themselves as sooomething, but the need to bestow it upon others is a very questionable concern for all of us.
For those seeking even more moral high ethics, spelling mistakes have been placed for your need, I mean enjoyment.
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liisgo wrote: May 5th, 2022, 11:20 am
Awesome.
There is a whole mob made in our country that is using their new found wokeness to virtue signal around. One would think anyone would be happy with themselves just in keeping it to themselves. But, as we see, its not about a personal recognition or bettering oneself, its a methood to behold to have some merit they never had before. Something to stand on for once.
Only problem, its dividing the people and ruining our once great peaceful nation.
The rest of society doesn't need to have a reconning with being racist, hate driven, extremme etc, etc.
Don't get me wrong, its great for people to see themselves as sooomething, but the need to bestow it upon others is a very questionable concern for all of us.
For those seeking even more moral high ethics, spelling mistakes have been placed for your need, I mean enjoyment.
Thank you for that speech on wokeness and the moral high ground but I'm reminded of someone that said something like, "let him cast the first stone who is without sin"........that wouldn't be the case here, hey?
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foenix wrote: May 5th, 2022, 11:28 am ........that wouldn't be the case here, hey?
No. It's not the case.
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foenix wrote: May 5th, 2022, 11:28 am Thank you for that speech on wokeness and the moral high ground but I'm reminded of someone that said something like, "let him cast the first stone who is without sin"........that wouldn't be the case here, hey?
Yup. It's 100% absolutely is the case.
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rustled wrote: May 5th, 2022, 9:40 am Everything's a crisis now.

[...]

Emotion trumps critical thought in this race to the mucky bottom, sponsored by people with a savior complex and the people who benefit from easily distracting people who mean well by allowing us to be convinced we must solve problems that have been blown out of proportion.
James Lindsay has some really great podcasts discussing the reasons why, and it all comes down to Marxism. Douglas Murray discusses this in his latest book about how Enlightenment thinkers are getting torn down and removed from history for the slightest slip-up, but the one guy who is never cancelled is Karl Marx (even though he was anti-Semitic and racist to quite an appalling degree). The reason for this is obvious: Cancel culture is Marxist.

here is a short James Lindsay excerpt...


And a Douglas Murray excerpt...


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This sounds like more of the scenario where the right accuses the left of "grooming" but in reality, it's the right that's caught doing the "grooming" or when the right accuses the left of voter fraud and it's the right that's actually caught committing voter fraud.......is the video kinda like that? [icon_lol2.gif]
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foenix wrote: May 5th, 2022, 12:00 pm This sounds like more of the scenario where the right accuses the left of "grooming" but in reality, it's the right that's caught doing the "grooming"
Nope. 100% incorrect.
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foenix wrote: May 5th, 2022, 12:00 pm This sounds like more of the scenario where the right accuses the left of "grooming" but in reality, it's the right that's caught doing the "grooming" or when the right accuses the left of voter fraud and it's the right that's actually caught committing voter fraud.......is the video kinda like that? [icon_lol2.gif]
Yup. 100% correct.
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Glacier wrote: May 5th, 2022, 11:54 am
rustled wrote: May 5th, 2022, 9:40 am Everything's a crisis now.

[...]

Emotion trumps critical thought in this race to the mucky bottom, sponsored by people with a savior complex and the people who benefit from easily distracting people who mean well by allowing us to be convinced we must solve problems that have been blown out of proportion.
James Lindsay has some really great podcasts discussing the reasons why, and it all comes down to Marxism. Douglas Murray discusses this in his latest book about how Enlightenment thinkers are getting torn down and removed from history for the slightest slip-up, but the one guy who is never cancelled is Karl Marx (even though he was anti-Semitic and racist to quite an appalling degree). The reason for this is obvious: Cancel culture is Marxist.

here is a short James Lindsay excerpt...


And a Douglas Murray excerpt...


Full interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlPhAFixBL4
Interesting and insightful. (I'll watch the full interview when I have more time.) Thanks for posting them.
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