Conservatives

[hobbyguy]

He's baaack: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politic ... -platform/

"Stephen Harper says Pierre Poilievre should save his policy platform for federal election"

Translation: the PPCPC policy/position platform is a stinker and therefore you should hide it and just continue to be a smear artist and negative Nellie.

You only need to conceal something if it is a bad stinker and can not withstand the cold light of day.

Andrew Scheer tried this disingenuous trick and when he finally released the platform late in the campaign, late on a Friday night before a long weekend in the western metropolis of Tswassen the odor from the stink pot of a platform wafted back across the country and Scheer and the CPC went down "missing a breakaway goal on an empty net".

The PPCPC is all about nonsense and garbage and that would be the platform, so of course Pierre the opportunist know nothing will have nothing to offer except the dark hidden agenda that panders to neo-fascists, religious kooks, and big oil.

Conceal something ?
Good lord, look at the current moronic PM

Look over here? Nope. That doesn't cut it. When there is a bad smell in elevator the guy that looks around at everyone else is the guilty party.

The PP CPC are hiding the big stinker that is their destructive agenda and trashing of ordinary Canadians.

[The Green Barbarian]

The PP CPC are hiding the big stinker

Great! Parties that don't exist are like that.

Meanwhile the Conservatives, a real party, are killing it right now. With the PM wasting $6k a day on hotel rooms and the opposition parties conspiring with Chinese commies to keep Canadian citizens in jail, Pierre is our only hope, and he is smoking those bums.

Go Pierre!!

[mikest2]

Conceal something ?
Good lord, look at the current moronic PM

Look over here? Nope. That doesn't cut it. When there is a bad smell in elevator the guy that looks around at everyone else is the guilty party.

The PP CPC are hiding the big stinker that is their destructive agenda and trashing of ordinary Canadians.

You assume that they are the farter, assumption is not fact, You assume far too much. Your opinion is not fact, your opinion is the same as anyone else's opinion, just an opinion. You constantly try to sell assumptions and opinions as fact. i don't buy it, and I think there are precious few who do. I do however, love pulp fiction.

[liisgo]

Conceal something ?
Good lord, look at the current moronic PM

Look over here? Nope. That doesn't cut it. When there is a bad smell in elevator the guy that looks around at everyone else is the guilty party.

The PP CPC are hiding the big stinker that is their destructive agenda and trashing of ordinary Canadians.

I hear ya, no time in history have we had such a loser as a PM. His new Liberalism introduced the most horrible tactic's of naming, shaming, creating ideas of "threats to democracy, woman haters, terrorists, extremists etc, etc. Why could he not have just relied on good old fashion hard work, morals and integrity.
But instead he let lose a pandemic of division and hatred upon ordinary Canadians. He is hated world wide and is considered the leader of the cancel culture, identity canceling, book burning, statue toppling mob's any have ever seen before.
Don't worry, it can only get better.
None of us need to look any further than the current government and PM to apply our demands of expectations and accountability. Unless one has none.

[blueliner]

Conceal something ?
Good lord, look at the current moronic PM

Look over here? Nope. That doesn't cut it. When there is a bad smell in elevator the guy that looks around at everyone else is the guilty party.

The PP CPC are hiding the big stinker that is their destructive agenda and trashing of ordinary Canadians.

So maybe hobbyguy you might want to jump over to the Liberal or Justin Trudeau threads and hold your GuyPal Justin to the same standards that you demand from PP and the CPC party , but we all know that will never happen .

[Babba_not_Gump]

Conceal something ?
Good lord, look at the current moronic PM

Look over here? Nope. That doesn't cut it. When there is a bad smell in elevator the guy that looks around at everyone else is the guilty party.

The PP CPC are hiding the big stinker that is their destructive agenda and trashing of ordinary Canadians.

Tell us about this destructive CPC agenda. I haven't heard about it. And tell us about how the CPC are trashing us ordinaries.

Bet you can't back up those accusations in 100 words or less.

[The Green Barbarian]

And tell us about how the CPC are trashing us ordinaries.

Why would he do that? The Conservatives are a party that actually exists.

[nucksRnum1]

So maybe hobbyguy you might want to jump over to the Liberal or Justin Trudeau threads and hold your GuyPal Justin to the same standards that you demand from PP and the CPC party , but we all know that will never happen .

Trudeau is only being consistent with the way things were done under Harper and Pe Pe Le Pew. Now all a sudden those standards are a problem? Wierd.....

[The Green Barbarian]

Trudeau is only being consistent

Yup, he's being very consistent - with scandal after scandal.

FIRST READING: The NDP and the Conservatives are at each other’s throats like never before

t’s typical for Ottawa’s political rhetoric to get heated in the midst of a scandal that could wind up signalling the beginning of the end for the current government.

Just this week, Conservative MP Michael Cooper delivered a lengthy diatribe to the House of Commons denouncing the “corrupt Liberal government,” the “corrupt Prime Minister” and accusing the entire Trudeau government of being “engaged in a cover-up.”

But if the Chinese electoral interference scandal is different, it’s that the verbal abuse is also ramping up between the two main opposition parties.

In between slamming the Liberals, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh has been diligent about sticking to a daily regimen of throwing insults at the Conservatives.

On Tuesday, after the Conservatives broke with NDP plans on how to investigate electoral interference, Singh said the Tories’ own strategy was “useless” and “on brand for a party that is pretty useless.”

On Monday, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre was accusing Singh of “shielding his Liberal coalition partners” at the expense of Canadian democracy.

“Is this a secret part of (Singh’s) backroom deal with Trudeau?” wrote Poilievre in a tweet.

Cooper, the aforementioned Conservative MP, has also frequently turned his sights on the NDP during his House of Commons rants. “This is an NDP opposition party that might as well be called the NDP government, as it is joined at the hip with the Liberal government,” he said Monday.

While the NDP and Conservatives obviously don’t agree on much, the parties have typically stayed relatively cordial when sharing the opposition benches against a Liberal government.

In 2004, Conservative Leader Stephen Harper seriously considered forming a coalition with the NDP and the Bloc Québécois in order to bring down the minority government of Paul Martin.

Four years later, even amidst a Conservative minority, there are reports that Harper was secretly offering advice to NDP Leader Jack Layton – including flattering him to the prospect that the NDP could take the Liberals’ place as the Official Opposition.

In 2011, there was even a brief period of time when Layton and Harper flirted with the idea of a de facto coalition to stave off the possibility of a federal election. “Our talks were cordial and respectful. The Prime Minister offered no assurances, but I am confident that my proposals were received and well understood,” read a statement by Layton after a closed-door meeting in which the NDP leader offered his conditions for supporting a Conservative budget.

By contrast, when the Conservatives picked Pierre Poilievre as their leader last September, Singh’s immediate reaction was that he saw absolutely no room for compromise between his party and the Tories. “I don’t see a way to work together with someone who is so fundamentally opposed to making life better for people,” said the NDP leader.

Also fueling the bad blood between the two might be the fact that, for the first time in recent memory, the NDP and the Conservatives are suddenly competing en masse for the same voters.

There’s always been a handful of Western Canadian ridings that flip rather seamlessly between Conservative and NDP MPs, with Liberal candidates in an irrelevant third place. But both parties are now looking at internal polls showing an ever-growing demographic of Canadians who are determined not to vote Liberal — but aren’t yet sure if they’re going to go blue or orange.

Most notably, pro-Conservative sentiment has begun to seep into demographics that were once safe harbours for the NDP. This includes surging Tory support among under-35 voters. And given that Conservative sentiment is rising in these categories almost in tandem with falling NDP support, it seems that Canadian voters are skipping from left to right without even considering a stopover in the Liberal camp.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/f ... eb28&ei=10

[The Green Barbarian]

Conrad Black: In Canada and U.S., conservatism is poised to make a comeback

Trump or Ron DeSantis will win, and as of now, Trump has the advantage. Most people finally see the proportions of the perversion of the intelligence agencies, the FBI, the Justice Department and the prosecution service in the psychopathic frenzy to destroy Trump. DeSantis — unlike former vice-president Mike Pence, Nikki Haley and others — flunked the litmus test in condemning this latest assault on Trump. In order to sell Trumpism without Trump, DeSantis had to oppose the indictment of Trump unconditionally. If he can’t do damage control or produce a rival issue to the persecution of Trump, he will have to wait until 2028.

As for Canada, Quebec has effectively begun the formal extirpation of the English language and the prime minister has taken it upon himself to make to the world on behalf of all of us the confession that our forbears attempted some form of genocide on Indigenous people. No government that has acquiesced in the first and proclaimed the second is fit to be re-elected. Apart from those problems, we are suffering from a severe annual deficit in investment capital flows, our health care is inadequate, almost insolvent, and reduced to advocating the merits of suicide to reduce its deficit. Our education system is a colossal unemployment deferral scheme that at immense public expense graduates huge numbers in fields from which they could not possibly make a living. We are freeloading allies. Our strength is natural resources and instead of making the most of them, we regard them with shame and neglect, and have declared war on our greatest industry, oil and gas. No one has won four consecutive full-term federal elections in Canada except John A. Macdonald and Wilfrid Laurier, and the amiable incumbent is not in their category.

I believe that Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre will be elected, that he will effectively defend conservatism from the inevitable barrage of partisan and media obloquy as harsh and primitive by explaining it, accurately, as greater freedom for individual Canadians, with no diminution of benefit for the disadvantaged. In doing so, I think we will graduate back to having a functioning two-party system for the first time since before the First World War, apart from the Mulroney-Turner years. The world is rubbing its eyes in astonishment at the woke self-mutilation of America and the sophomoric morality play of government in Canada. I believe that in the one country, as in the other, we will not continue to disappoint a world that has come to expect, and desperately needs us, to do better.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/other/co ... 8fdb&ei=31

[liisgo]

So maybe hobbyguy you might want to jump over to the Liberal or Justin Trudeau threads and hold your GuyPal Justin to the same standards that you demand from PP and the CPC party , but we all know that will never happen .

Trudeau is only being consistent with the way things were done under Harper and Pe Pe Le Pew. Now all a sudden those standards are a problem? Wierd.....

sorry to crush you here with the reality that no time in the history of our country have we been so introduced to a PM of such carnage, failure, hypocrisy, bigotry, mis management, double standards.
The judgement he is having placed against him today is of his own hypocritical ways.
He should have tried to survive on merit of accomplishment, which he would have failed at as well, but now he is being labeled the biggest hypocrite in all Canadian political history.
No one but losers need to blame their own actions on another in history.

[fluffy]

sorry to crush you here with the reality that no time in the history of our country have we been so introduced to a PM of such carnage, failure, hypocrisy, bigotry, mis management, double standards.
The judgement he is having placed against him today is of his own hypocritical ways.
He should have tried to survive on merit of accomplishment, which he would have failed at as well, but now he is being labeled the biggest hypocrite in all Canadian political history.
No one but losers need to blame their own actions on another in history.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that criticism of the Trudeau Liberals comes exclusively from the right, and gets louder and louder the farther to the right the source is. Why is this ? Simple really, it's all they have. Conservatives have no policies that would improve the quality of life for everyday Canadians. That's not to say they don't have policies, it's just that those policies are same-old Conservative philosophy that has failed us miserably since the 70's, so they do their best to keep those policies out of the public eye by continuously deferring to the slagging of JT and the Liberals and left leaning politics in general.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Liberals are a whole bunch better than the Conservatives when it comes to kowtowing to the ruling class, but they are better. If you care about the average Canadian, if you care about the environment, if you care about things like social and economic equality then a Conservatives government would be a giant step in the wrong direction.

[steven lloyd]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the Liberals are a whole bunch better than the Conservatives when it comes to kowtowing to the ruling class, but they are better. If you care about the average Canadian, if you care about the environment, if you care about things like social and economic equality then a Conservatives government would be a giant step in the wrong direction.

It seems to me that both parties are trying to appeal to the extremes (the Conservatives obviously more so) and I really do wish Canadian voters had another, more centrist option. Those who think the Conservatives hold some kind of moral highground in Canadian politics have allowed themselves to be completely deluded by partisanship.

[Hurtlander]

Let's not lose sight of the fact that criticism of the Trudeau Liberals comes exclusively from the right, and gets louder and louder the farther to the right the source is. Why is this ? Simple really, it's all they have.

Once again you’re posting absolute bull .. Go back and read political posts from a couple years ago all the way back to the Harper years in power, you’ll quickly find there’s a good many non-Conservative traditional Liberal supporters posting on these forums that have become completely disillusioned with Trudeau and now justifiably criticize Trudeau and his government because of chronic incompetence, scandals, coverups etc…. Stop with the ignorant comments that only the far right are criticizing Trudeau because that’s all they’ve got, there’s very clearly moderate centrist Canadians criticizing Trudeau. And at this point in time there’s absolutely no other viable option to the morally bankrupt incompetent Trudeau government than the Conservatives.

[69cutlass]

Conservative have always helped and been beneficial to the middle class. Under the Liberals the middle class is dieing.