Deport Humboldt Driver

[oldtrucker]

Yup. Agree. That could have happened to anyone. The federal govt is to blame for this not just him. Ridiculous working hours.
He's a criminal but not. He didn't set out that day to do harm. He came here for the punishment of being a truck driver in Canada not to harm.
If a immigrant steals something in Walmart do they get sent home? I dunno, but they intended to commit a crime. Sidhu didn't.

We hear this all the time "they didn't mean to....."

Someone drives twice the speed limit and looses control and kills someone. "They didn't mean to loose control."

It's not just the final action that dictates intent.

The speeding driver did intend on driving fast, he/she intended to speed, the result of the speed caused them to loose control and that caused the death. Chain of events.

I think we've got more than our quota of bad drivers. Bye bye.

Oh and if you say, he wasn't a bad driver. When you kill 16 and injure 13, by definition that's a bad driver.

There is no right answer with this. This is such a brutal thing to happen to everyone.
The right answer was decades before when companies and the industry were properly regulated. But that didn't happen decades before did it.

[CountryAtHeart]

Out of curiosity, why am I not hearing any backlash about the driver of the bus that killed 16 seniors from Dauphin? They were on there way to the casino and the driver hit a semi. No screaming and hollering for him to be locked up. No rants about him. Hmmm what is different about this driver?

[JLives]

Out of curiosity, why am I not hearing any backlash about the driver of the bus that killed 16 seniors from Dauphin? They were on there way to the casino and the driver hit a semi. No screaming and hollering for him to be locked up. No rants about him. Hmmm what is different about this driver?

Whatever could it be?

[my5cents]

Out of curiosity, why am I not hearing any backlash about the driver of the bus that killed 16 seniors from Dauphin? They were on there way to the casino and the driver hit a semi. No screaming and hollering for him to be locked up. No rants about him. Hmmm what is different about this driver?

Backlash ! Try to find out the name of the driver of the mini bus, that seems impossible. The bus a 24 seater, was owned by "Quality Care Transit". The company's co-owner was the driver of the bus.

The facts of the collision are that the bus apparently was crossing the Trans Canada Highway at a level crossing with Highway 5. At this location there is a median between east bound Hwy 1 and west bound Hwy 1. The bus was travelling south bound and had successfully crossed the west bound portion of Hwy 1. The bus pulled out to cross the east bound portion of Hwy 1 right into the path of a semi.

Grand total 17 killed. Both drivers survived. From news reports the collision happen in June of 2023.

Funny the media are always cramming cameras in peoples faces with the common question "How did it feel when..... ?", but just getting bare facts like "On <date> at <time> a bus was hit by a semi..." Nope, I guess not glamorous enough.

Anyway with so many killed, it's not unusual for the RCMP investigation to take a long time, especially as you say there is no "backlash".

So far what we know :
Humbolt - Semi driver said the sun was in his eyes, he didn't see the signs. When police investigated his contention they proved the sun could not have been in his eyes at the time of the collision. After that revelation, the semi driver plead guilty.

Dauphin - The driver never saw the semi, he has no explanation why.

[steven lloyd]

Out of curiosity, why am I not hearing any backlash about the driver of the bus that killed 16 seniors from Dauphin? They were on there way to the casino and the driver hit a semi. No screaming and hollering for him to be locked up. No rants about him. Hmmm what is different about this driver?

Whatever could it be?

Racism always seems to find its way to rear it's ugly face.

[my5cents]

Racism always seems to find its way to rear it's ugly face

Yes it does, maybe it was "ageism" ? Humbolt was young people, Dauphin was old people.

[Babba_not_Gump]

Whatever could it be?

Racism always seems to find its way to rear it's
ugly face .

The Humboldt driver is a permanent resident and can be deported.

The driver of the Dauphin bus, Doug Westhouse is, I'm 99% certain, a Canadian citizen.
The question here revolves around deportation. I'm certain Canadian citizens cannot be deported from Canada.

Got that you two?

[the truth]

Out of curiosity, why am I not hearing any backlash about the driver of the bus that killed 16 seniors from Dauphin? They were on there way to the casino and the driver hit a semi. No screaming and hollering for him to be locked up. No rants about him. Hmmm what is different about this driver?

Whatever could it be?

this has nothing to do with race, you people are making it racist, if the guy was white and from germany i would still want him deported , but keep pushing your fake woke pc hate

[the truth]

Racism always seems to find its way to rear it's
ugly face on these boards - and that's the truth.

The Humboldt driver is a permanent resident and can be deported.

The driver of the Dauphin bus, Doug Westhouse is, I'm 99% certain, a Canadian citizen.
The question here revolves around deportation. I'm certain Canadian citizens cannot be deported from Canada.

Got that you two?

exactly, they are just pushing their fake hate bs,

[steven lloyd]

I say he should stay.
He will work harder than any of you to make Canada a better place. He knows he pugged up. IMO, the owner of the trucking company should be the one that is drawn and quartered. He is the one who put him in that position. Oh I forgot. Most of you have never made a mistake because the boss didn't give you the proper training? Example Stemmer crane incident. May as well send Wolfrem back to where he came from.
He made a mistake and yes people died.

Yup. Agree. That could have happened to anyone. The federal govt is to blame for this not just him. Ridiculous working hours.
He's a criminal but not. He didn't set out that day to do harm. He came here for the punishment of being a truck driver in Canada not to harm.
If a immigrant steals something in Walmart do they get sent home? I dunno, but they intended to commit a crime. Sidhu didn't.

Two very good posts. Despite the deflections, excuse making and rationalization we know what the call to have this man deported is really about.

[the truth]

Out of curiosity, why am I not hearing any backlash about the driver of the bus that killed 16 seniors from Dauphin? They were on there way to the casino and the driver hit a semi. No screaming and hollering for him to be locked up. No rants about him. Hmmm what is different about this driver?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba ... -1.6883530, more on the driver
and what happened

[CountryAtHeart]

Whatever could it be?

this has nothing to do with race, you people are making it racist, if the guy was white and from germany i would still want him deported , but keep pushing your fake woke pc hate

Why is nobody hating on the senior bus driver the way they did for the Humboldt driver? Both made a terrible mistake. Only one is the subject of nationwide outrage and hatred. I don’t buy your excuse Truth.

[oldtrucker]

In a fair and just world...
The family members of the dead and the survivors should decide if he stays or goes.
'Don't come to Canada and make a mistake like that and expect to be able to stay' message also needs to be conveyed to a effective degree also. There is no right answer

[GordonH]

You've all forgotten one important factor...... this is Canada.

Yep, our justice system rarely gives a damn about the victims or their families.

[Urban Cowboy]

Whatever could it be?

this has nothing to do with race, you people are making it racist, if the guy was white and from germany i would still want him deported , but keep pushing your fake woke pc hate

Well aren't you kinda making it racist too, by making a remark as though all Germans are white?