Deport Humboldt Driver

[the truth]

this has nothing to do with race, you people are making it racist, if the guy was white and from germany i would still want him deported , but keep pushing your fake woke pc hate

Why is nobody hating on the senior bus driver the way they did for the Humboldt driver? Both made a terrible mistake. Only one is the subject of nationwide outrage and hatred. I don’t buy your excuse Truth.

It's not an excuse it's just a fact

[the truth]

this has nothing to do with race, you people are making it racist, if the guy was white and from germany i would still want him deported , but keep pushing your fake woke pc hate

Well aren't you kinda making it racist too, by making a remark as though all Germans are white?

round round we go, you people need to try and keep things simple some time, you might not need to be all on anxiety meds

[the truth]

You've all forgotten one important factor...... this is Canada.

Yep, our justice system rarely gives a damn about the victims or their families.

sad but true

[CountryAtHeart]

*removed* I am calling people out for what I see as hypocrisy and for some, plain racism. I called out my friends and some family members for the same thing. They were outraged by the first accident but the second accident was just so sad. It’s not that one can be deported and one can’t. It’s the emotion behind it. The emotional response for Humboldt vs the emotional response to the Dauphin accident.

[my5cents]

The Humboldt driver is a permanent resident and can be deported.

The driver of the Dauphin bus, Doug Westhouse is, I'm 99% certain, a Canadian citizen.
The question here revolves around deportation. I'm certain Canadian citizens cannot be deported from Canada.

Got that you two?

First off, let's clear Doug Westhouse...

I saw (probably) the same story you did, and at first thought he was the driver of the Dauphin bus, but he was not.

• DAUPHIN, Man. — Doug Westhouse sits straight behind the wheel of a 12-passenger bus driving along a rural Manitoba highway waiting for the next call for a ride.
  
  The co-ordinator and driver for Grand Plains Handivan in Grandview, Man., slows the hefty vehicle down as an oncoming semi-trailer truck passes by on Highway 5.
  
  He says he’s been thinking a lot about another minibus, not much larger than the one he drives, that crashed with a semi last week on the same road. Sixteen seniors on the bus were killed.

As for deportation....

Countries have a desire and a right to protect themselves from outside threats, be that other countries, or visitors or those who desire to immigrate or who have immigrated and then commit serious crimes.

A country can't banish it's own legal citizen, like it or not they belong here. Where are you going to banish them to ?... the moon ? We can banish someone who has immigrated.

Even a person wishing to visit Canada for a short term may not be eligible to enter. The nature of Jaskirat Singh Sidhu's criminal record as a result of the Humboldt crash would have made him ineligible to enter Canada even for a holiday, without special dispensation. Had he been a Canadian citizen, it would have prevented him from visiting many other countries, including the US.

A thought on the question of why so much “backlash” against Sidhu and so little against Mr. X….. Like it or not the media drives what news items we see and what items we see over and over and over……

As I pointed out, I can’t even find the name of the Dauphin bus driver. Also we have to consider that although the results were both catastrophic, one involved a driver not seeing an oncoming truck (no evidence that there was any pre-collision horrific driving), and Sidhu that apparently drove past pre-stop warning signs and a stop sign at over 100 Kph, then lied and said the sun was in his eyes.

A question to CountryAtHeart.... Your post -

I am calling people out for what I see as hypocrisy and for some, plain racism. I called out my friends and some family members for the same thing. They were outraged by the first accident but the second accident was just so sad. It’s not that one can be deported and one can’t. It’s the emotion behind it. The emotional response for Humboldt vs the emotional response to the Dauphin accident.

Since nobody has reported the name of the Dauphin driver, how do you know there's a racial element ?

As for "the first" COLLISION, outrage and "the second" COLLISION, just sad. The public is required to feel equal sorrow for each, or they are hypocrites ????

A death is a death all deaths are sad, but I think the public has the right to feel more sadness when a person looses the potential of living another 50 +/- years, verses a person looses the potential of living another 5 - 10 years.

Should we chastise a first responder who suffers PTSD after attending a fatal incident involving children ? After all every death should be accompanied with the same emotion, right ?

[Catsumi]

Good post, 5cents

You ask pertinent questions. Hope you get truthful answers.

[oldtrucker]

If you make a mistake at your work, say a brief human eff up moment at whatever that job is, what is the absolute worst outcome?
You were tired during your 7 hour ultra safe sterile work day and filed some paperwork for a client in the wrong spot, it got lost and cost a bunch of time and money for the company etc.
Did you get severely punished for your momentary lapse of attention during your extreme fatigue?
This guy like other truck drivers worked 70 hours week wirh some 13-18 hour days and got no sleep, didn't eat properly etc etc and he had a momentary lapse of attention.
Same mistake same crime very different price for the crime and very different outcomes.

[one wheel]

As tragic as this accident was deporting Sidhu won't change anything.
He was sentenced & served time & if our Government won't demand changes to obtaining a Class 1 DL it's only time until another tragedy occurs.

[JLives]

If you make a mistake at your work, say a brief human eff up moment at whatever that job is, what is the absolute worst outcome?
You were tired during your 7 hour ultra safe sterile work day and filed some paperwork for a client in the wrong spot, it got lost and cost a bunch of time and money for the company etc.
Did you get severely punished for your momentary lapse of attention during your extreme fatigue?
This guy like other truck drivers worked 70 hours week wirh some 13-18 hour days and got no sleep, didn't eat properly etc etc and he had a momentary lapse of attention.
Same mistake same crime very different price for the crime and very different outcomes.

He will wear the pain of it for the rest of his life. While it is certainly a tragedy it wasn't intentional. He cares. There's no reason to deport him. He needs to heal too.

[GordonH]

If you make a mistake at your work, say a brief human eff up moment at whatever that job is, what is the absolute worst outcome?
You were tired during your 7 hour ultra safe sterile work day and filed some paperwork for a client in the wrong spot, it got lost and cost a bunch of time and money for the company etc.
Did you get severely punished for your momentary lapse of attention during your extreme fatigue?
This guy like other truck drivers worked 70 hours week wirh some 13-18 hour days and got no sleep, didn't eat properly etc etc and he had a momentary lapse of attention.
Same mistake same crime very different price for the crime and very different outcomes.

He will wear the pain of it for the rest of his life. While it is certainly a tragedy it wasn't intentional. He cares. There's no reason to deport him. He needs to heal too.

He is the driver who blew through a Stop sign at high speed with a flashing Red light above it, his claims of the Sun was proven BS.

[normaM]

and what would be the point of deporting him? Seems like vengeance not justice

[fluffy]

and what would be the point of deporting him? Seems like vengeance not justice

Excellent point, but emotions are running high around this accident, even to the point of clouding any sense of reason for many.

[steven lloyd]

and what would be the point of deporting him? Seems like vengeance not justice

Excellent point, but emotions are running high around this accident, even to the point of clouding any sense of reason for many.

Add a bit of racist hate and it gets ugly fast.

[GordonH]

impo it's the victims families, if they were calling on deportation so be it, if not also so be it.

I admit I was PO (after this happened), I wasn't directly involved nor I’m I family. They are the ones who lost loved ones in this tragedy.

My concern is have their been changes made to try to avoid tragedies like this in future, I am not part of trucking industry. I have no idea if this has happened, if not then WTH not.

[oldtrucker]

He won't make the same mistake.
And he would be a productive member of society perhaps more so than many - like a previous poster said.
I'm totally against immigration to canada equally, ( gee who knew) no matter where the immigrant is from, no matter what shade of color they are.
He paid his price. He owned up to it. He showed honor.
He had enough cowboy in him to come to Canada to drive a 62 ton rig in a wild redneck land called Saskatchewan. Most Canadians don't have enough cowboy in them to even attempt it.
I'd hire him.