Deport Humboldt Driver

[my5cents]

As tragic as this accident was deporting Sidhu won't change anything.
He was sentenced & served time & if our Government won't demand changes to obtaining a Class 1 DL it's only time until another tragedy occurs.

Putting him jail (for the few short years he served) didn't change anything either, should we stop putting people in jail ?

So, changes to driver's license regulations regarding Class 1 DLs, would teach truck drivers to stop at stop signs ???

He will wear the pain of it for the rest of his life. While it is certainly a tragedy it wasn't intentional. He cares. There's no reason to deport him. He needs to heal too.

No, he didn't intentionally kill. If he had, he would have been charged with murder and likely been sentence to at least a few more days.

and what would be the point of deporting him? Seems like vengeance not justice

What's the point of preventing tourists wanting to enter Canada because they have a record for Dangerous Driving ? "they didn't drive dangerously in Canada" (yet)

If we aren't going to uphold and enforce our laws, lets eliminate them. This person was not a Canadian citizen, he committed a serious crime and was convicted of same, our law says he should be deported. How many people does he have to kill and maim before we apply this law, 50, 100, ?

impo it's the victims families, if they were calling on deportation so be it, if not also so be it.

I admit I was PO (after this happened), I wasn't directly involved nor I’m I family. They are the ones who lost loved ones in this tragedy.

My concern is have their been changes made to try to avoid tragedies like this in future, I am not part of trucking industry. I have no idea if this has happened, if not then WTH not.

You are 100% correct. But this is Canada, our law is all about the criminal and their rights, it’s not about the victim or victim's family, unfortunately.

The way I see it, this is very simple. The law says he should be deported, he gets deported. The law doesn't say "he doesn't get deported if he's sorry". He was the person who lied and said the sun was in his eyes. If he was so sorry, why didn't he tell the truth and take full responsibility ?

Like I said, I'll drive him to the airport.

But this is Canada. I'm surprised we haven't held a parade for him to show him that we're sorry we had to convict him and then find him a good paying truck driving job.

[my5cents]

He won't make the same mistake.
And he would be a productive member of society perhaps more so than many - like a previous poster said.
I'm totally against immigration to canada equally, ( gee who knew) no matter where the immigrant is from, no matter what shade of color they are.
He paid his price. He owned up to it. He showed honor.
He had enough cowboy in him to come to Canada to drive a 62 ton rig in a wild redneck land called Saskatchewan. Most Canadians don't have enough cowboy in them to even attempt it.
I'd hire him.

"He owned up to it. He showed honor." ?????????????? He lied ! He said the sun was in his eyes and maintained that lie until the RCMP proved it was impossible. He plead guilty because they had him dead to rights. He went through a stop sign at over 100, hit a bus on the through highway and killed and maimed a hockey team. He showed honor ??????

[two_shoes1mit]

He won't make the same mistake.
And he would be a productive member of society perhaps more so than many - like a previous poster said.
I'm totally against immigration to canada equally, ( gee who knew) no matter where the immigrant is from, no matter what shade of color they are.
He paid his price. He owned up to it. He showed honor.
He had enough cowboy in him to come to Canada to drive a 62 ton rig in a wild redneck land called Saskatchewan. Most Canadians don't have enough cowboy in them to even attempt it.
I'd hire him.

"He owned up to it. He showed honor." ?????????????? He lied ! He said the sun was in his eyes and maintained that lie until the RCMP proved it was impossible. He plead guilty because they had him dead to rights. He went through a stop sign at over 100, hit a bus on the through highway and killed and maimed a hockey team. He showed honor ??????

[oldtrucker]

He won't make the same mistake.
And he would be a productive member of society perhaps more so than many - like a previous poster said.
I'm totally against immigration to canada equally, ( gee who knew) no matter where the immigrant is from, no matter what shade of color they are.
He paid his price. He owned up to it. He showed honor.
He had enough cowboy in him to come to Canada to drive a 62 ton rig in a wild redneck land called Saskatchewan. Most Canadians don't have enough cowboy in them to even attempt it.
I'd hire him.

"He owned up to it. He showed honor." ?????????????? He lied ! He said the sun was in his eyes and maintained that lie until the RCMP proved it was impossible. He plead guilty because they had him dead to rights. He went through a stop sign at over 100, hit a bus on the through highway and killed and maimed a hockey team. He showed honor ??????

Why did he blow thru at 100?
I've been in court with the cops saying the weather was something other than what it was until I proved them wrong with NAV canada data. Not anything nearly so serious tho( illegal lane change). And, I didn't have a language barrier that could be exploited.
Why would he intentionally blow a internationally recognized red stop sign?
Maybe the work hours are too long, he was beyond fatigued for a extended period and he was looking at the stop sign but didn't 'see' it.
Human factor.
Not minimizing the cost or severity of the situation. Could happen to anyone.
Fix the bleeping industry or more tragedy will happen. If you have 60 ton pieces of metal being piloted by humans than don't get sleep it isn't if it's when.
As I said, let the victims decide.
Does he even want to stay?

[my5cents]

Why did he blow thru at 100?
I've been in court with the cops saying the weather was something other than what it was until I proved them wrong with NAV canada data. Not anything nearly so serious tho( illegal lane change). And, I didn't have a language barrier that could be exploited.
Why would he intentionally blow a internationally recognized red stop sign?
Maybe the work hours are too long, he was beyond fatigued for a extended period and he was looking at the stop sign but didn't 'see' it.
Human factor.
Not minimizing the cost or severity of the situation. Could happen to anyone.
Fix the bleeping industry or more tragedy will happen. If you have 60 ton pieces of metal being piloted by humans than don't get sleep it isn't if it's when.
As I said, let the victims decide.
Does he even want to stay?

Last question first. Well they are not conducting all these expensive hearings because he said "OK I'll leave".

There wasn't a cop there at the scene to lie, as you've intimated. Science and mathematics proved his speed.

Yes, perhaps there's blame all over, but he was in the driver's seat, he killed and maimed dozens of people. He can drive a truck in India, have at her.

The time for arguing that it wasn't his fault, it was this, it was that, is over. He has plead guilty to 16 counts of Dangerous Driving Causing Death and 13 counts of Dangerous Driving Causing Bodily Injury. In the world of traffic collisions, that's right up there.

The question now is, should this person who plead guilty to all these counts of dangerous driving be sent packing ? We have a law that says a person guilty of serious criminal offenses and is not a Canadian citizen gets punted, If this incident doesn't qualify to kick him, what the heck does ?

[Bsuds]

He can drive a truck in India, have at her.

The time for arguing that it wasn't his fault, it was this, it was that, is over. He has plead guilty to 16 counts of Dangerous Driving Causing Death and 13 counts of Dangerous Driving Causing Bodily Injury. In the world of traffic collisions, that's right up there.

The question now is, should this person who plead guilty to all these counts of dangerous driving be sent packing ? We have a law that says a person guilty of serious criminal offenses and is not a Canadian citizen gets punted, If this incident doesn't qualify to kick him, what the heck does ?

[Y-Wine]

I would rather have the Semi driver in this country than this POS

https://vancouversun.com/news/ex-hells- ... 9-concerns
Remember this crowd. They do a TOY Run. Oh so nice. More deaths in 1 month in Kelowna, than a Legally obtained immigrated person, trying to make his way in Canukastan

The question now is, should this person who plead guilty to all these counts of dangerous driving be sent packing ? We have a law that says a person guilty of serious criminal offenses and is not a Canadian citizen gets punted, If this incident doesn't qualify to kick him, what the heck does ?

[two_shoes1mit]

He can drive a truck in India, have at her.

The time for arguing that it wasn't his fault, it was this, it was that, is over. He has plead guilty to 16 counts of Dangerous Driving Causing Death and 13 counts of Dangerous Driving Causing Bodily Injury. In the world of traffic collisions, that's right up there.

The question now is, should this person who plead guilty to all these counts of dangerous driving be sent packing ? We have a law that says a person guilty of serious criminal offenses and is not a Canadian citizen gets punted, If this incident doesn't qualify to kick him, what the heck does ?

[normaM]

His wife is a Canadian citizen. I wonder if that will play a part in the decision

[Bsuds]

His wife is a Canadian citizen. I wonder if that will play a part in the decision

It could unless they think he got married to avoid deportation.

[oldtrucker]

I know you guys are probably right.
Maybe I'm able to put myself in that situation more readily than others cuz I've been nearly asleep myself driving a rig full of grain at that very intersection.
I could see it happening to me I guess.

[normaM]

They wed in India then moved to Calgary according to her video.
However, given what has happened he just just go instead of fighting the deportation.

[normaM]

OldTrucker - the Life of a Trucker not an easy one and I appreciate your candor

[Bsuds]

I know you guys are probably right.
Maybe I'm able to put myself in that situation more readily than others cuz I've been nearly asleep myself driving a rig full of grain at that very intersection.
I could see it happening to me I guess.

No matter what happens it's a sad situation all around.

There are probably some families that would be happier if he left and some who have forgiven him and don't care either way.

[the truth]

As tragic as this accident was deporting Sidhu won't change anything.
He was sentenced & served time & if our Government won't demand changes to obtaining a Class 1 DL it's only time until another tragedy occurs.

Putting him jail (for the few short years he served) didn't change anything either, should we stop putting people in jail ?

So, changes to driver's license regulations regarding Class 1 DLs, would teach truck drivers to stop at stop signs ???

He will wear the pain of it for the rest of his life. While it is certainly a tragedy it wasn't intentional. He cares. There's no reason to deport him. He needs to heal too.

No, he didn't intentionally kill. If he had, he would have been charged with murder and likely been sentence to at least a few more days.

and what would be the point of deporting him? Seems like vengeance not justice

What's the point of preventing tourists wanting to enter Canada because they have a record for Dangerous Driving ? "they didn't drive dangerously in Canada" (yet)

If we aren't going to uphold and enforce our laws, lets eliminate them. This person was not a Canadian citizen, he committed a serious crime and was convicted of same, our law says he should be deported. How many people does he have to kill and maim before we apply this law, 50, 100, ?

impo it's the victims families, if they were calling on deportation so be it, if not also so be it.

I admit I was PO (after this happened), I wasn't directly involved nor I’m I family. They are the ones who lost loved ones in this tragedy.

My concern is have their been changes made to try to avoid tragedies like this in future, I am not part of trucking industry. I have no idea if this has happened, if not then WTH not.

You are 100% correct. But this is Canada, our law is all about the criminal and their rights, it’s not about the victim or victim's family, unfortunately.

The way I see it, this is very simple. The law says he should be deported, he gets deported. The law doesn't say "he doesn't get deported if he's sorry". He was the person who lied and said the sun was in his eyes. If he was so sorry, why didn't he tell the truth and take full responsibility ?

Like I said, I'll drive him to the airport.

But this is Canada. I'm surprised we haven't held a parade for him to show him that we're sorry we had to convict him and then find him a good paying truck driving job.

great points,