All thing's Jagmeet Singh and his brand

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Jagmeet Singh is making rumbling noises. The NDP leader is beginning to sound like a person who has doubts about his closest political ally and his deal with him.


How shall we interpret this? For, there are two Jagmeets. Which Jagmeet is at play here?

Twitter Jagmeet is angry Jagmeet. Twitter Jagmeet is as a roaring lion, who rages daily about Liberal ineptitude, heartlessness towards Lunch Box Joe — an outdated NDP term, but let that pass — and scorns Justin Trudeau for his amity toward billionaires and his responsibility for such massive government flops as the infamous Pearson airport and overnight lineups of citizens outside passport offices. The former is a hill of luggage and the latter a national disgrace.

There is another Jagmeet, who may be described as the prime minister’s political fortress of solitude.

This is protector of the reign Jagmeet. Buttress, bulwark and personal breakwater Jagmeet, protecting Justin from what our friend Hamlet in a famous talk referred to as a “sea of troubles.”

For Trudeau surely has his troubles these days, and an ocean of them.

Now so familiar as to constitute a litany in the general mind: cosmetic racism in his younger days; those cringe-summoning days in India that mutated a state visit into a Bollywood comedy; photo-opping via the government jet; turbulence over government interference with prosecutions against a Quebec company, SNC-Lavalin, and with the RCMP’s investigation into Nova Scotia’s horrific mass murder; the close embrace of he and his near-whole family with the WE evangelists; and, of course, his wild and inexplicable fidelity to catastrophic environmental alarmism, on the altar of which he has offered up as expiatory sacrifices Canada’s oil industry, and latterly — this is or should by any measure be a deep national shame — its agricultural industry, its farmers, men and women who provide “the bread of life” not only to Canadians, but to the less happy and dependant hungry of this whole wide world.

Have I mentioned the calling down of the Emergencies Act, that great hammer on the civil rights of all Canadians?

No I have not. For which, much shame should fall upon me. The invocation of this invasion of every citizen’s right to protest, its dark reach into the bank accounts of Canadian citizens, and the unspeakable successive prosecutorial assaults on Freedom Convoy organizer Tamara Lich throw a grim, deep shadow on Canada’s democracy.

The inquiry into the Liberal government’s “justification” for invoking the Emergencies Act is in the usual sludge and mud and delay launched by this delinquent administration. Parliament is now conveniently in recess, due only to return in a hybrid version utilizing Zoom. The Emergencies Act inquiry, whatever its meagre chances for real revelation, is the most important ever to be instituted. Yet, the calling down of the full powers of the state, which showed the protections of the fabled Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be of tissue strength and useless in the very moment when they are and were most needed, barely stirs whispers in the popular press. New scandals eclipse the older ones.

So yes, Trudeau needs “I am Justin’s parliamentary bodyguard” Singh, but Singh is making rumbling noises. Because he has finally heard that his bonding with the Liberal government is hurting, if not nullifying, the NDP as an independent, critical and overseeing force in the House of Commons. Perhaps some in Singh’s own caucus, usually so vibrant on Twitter and in press releases, are viewing the “deal” — I prefer to call it “the coalition” — as stripping the entire NDP of its once so swaddled reputation as the “conscience of the House of Commons.”

Hence we are now hearing that Trudeau must “perform” on his promises of a dental-care program and whatever else Singh threw into the pot when he joined perfect hands with the government he was elected to oppose. Singh is one with the carbon tax. He is one with the torment just thrown at Canadian farmers. He does not push for answers from the inquiry into the Emergencies Act. He asks no questions that will really hurt.

Thus, Singh is eviscerating his own party as a respectable force in Canadian politics. The rumblings I referred to at the top of this piece are the result — I presume — of the few alert members of the NDP caucus who recognize that the leader of their party may also be its destroyer.

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Hey, but . . ..

"Liberals planning temporary solution to dental care promise: CP sources

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/liberal ... -1.6018730"
OTTAWA - Sources close to the government's proposed $5.3-billion dental-care program say the Liberals are planning a temporary solution that involves giving money directly to patients in order to keep their promise to the NDP while they work on a permanent answer.

. . .

The NDP have vowed to walk away from the deal if the deadline isn't met.
So it's all good. :biggrin:

Also, thanks for the thread because now there's a home for Professor Tom when he produces something he'd like us to read.
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blueliner wrote: Aug 11th, 2022, 1:53 pm Jagmeet Singh is making rumbling noises. The NDP leader is beginning to sound like a person who has doubts about his closest political ally and his deal with him.


How shall we interpret this? For, there are two Jagmeets. Which Jagmeet is at play here?

Twitter Jagmeet is angry Jagmeet. Twitter Jagmeet is as a roaring lion, who rages daily about Liberal ineptitude, heartlessness towards Lunch Box Joe — an outdated NDP term, but let that pass — and scorns Justin Trudeau for his amity toward billionaires and his responsibility for such massive government flops as the infamous Pearson airport and overnight lineups of citizens outside passport offices. The former is a hill of luggage and the latter a national disgrace.

There is another Jagmeet, who may be described as the prime minister’s political fortress of solitude.

This is protector of the reign Jagmeet. Buttress, bulwark and personal breakwater Jagmeet, protecting Justin from what our friend Hamlet in a famous talk referred to as a “sea of troubles.”

For Trudeau surely has his troubles these days, and an ocean of them.

Now so familiar as to constitute a litany in the general mind: cosmetic racism in his younger days; those cringe-summoning days in India that mutated a state visit into a Bollywood comedy; photo-opping via the government jet; turbulence over government interference with prosecutions against a Quebec company, SNC-Lavalin, and with the RCMP’s investigation into Nova Scotia’s horrific mass murder; the close embrace of he and his near-whole family with the WE evangelists; and, of course, his wild and inexplicable fidelity to catastrophic environmental alarmism, on the altar of which he has offered up as expiatory sacrifices Canada’s oil industry, and latterly — this is or should by any measure be a deep national shame — its agricultural industry, its farmers, men and women who provide “the bread of life” not only to Canadians, but to the less happy and dependant hungry of this whole wide world.

Have I mentioned the calling down of the Emergencies Act, that great hammer on the civil rights of all Canadians?

No I have not. For which, much shame should fall upon me. The invocation of this invasion of every citizen’s right to protest, its dark reach into the bank accounts of Canadian citizens, and the unspeakable successive prosecutorial assaults on Freedom Convoy organizer Tamara Lich throw a grim, deep shadow on Canada’s democracy.

The inquiry into the Liberal government’s “justification” for invoking the Emergencies Act is in the usual sludge and mud and delay launched by this delinquent administration. Parliament is now conveniently in recess, due only to return in a hybrid version utilizing Zoom. The Emergencies Act inquiry, whatever its meagre chances for real revelation, is the most important ever to be instituted. Yet, the calling down of the full powers of the state, which showed the protections of the fabled Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be of tissue strength and useless in the very moment when they are and were most needed, barely stirs whispers in the popular press. New scandals eclipse the older ones.

So yes, Trudeau needs “I am Justin’s parliamentary bodyguard” Singh, but Singh is making rumbling noises. Because he has finally heard that his bonding with the Liberal government is hurting, if not nullifying, the NDP as an independent, critical and overseeing force in the House of Commons. Perhaps some in Singh’s own caucus, usually so vibrant on Twitter and in press releases, are viewing the “deal” — I prefer to call it “the coalition” — as stripping the entire NDP of its once so swaddled reputation as the “conscience of the House of Commons.”

Hence we are now hearing that Trudeau must “perform” on his promises of a dental-care program and whatever else Singh threw into the pot when he joined perfect hands with the government he was elected to oppose. Singh is one with the carbon tax. He is one with the torment just thrown at Canadian farmers. He does not push for answers from the inquiry into the Emergencies Act. He asks no questions that will really hurt.

Thus, Singh is eviscerating his own party as a respectable force in Canadian politics. The rumblings I referred to at the top of this piece are the result — I presume — of the few alert members of the NDP caucus who recognize that the leader of their party may also be its destroyer.

Tommy Douglas is revolving in his grave.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-mu ... -destroyer

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blueliner wrote: Aug 11th, 2022, 1:53 pm Jagmeet Singh is making rumbling noises. The NDP leader is beginning to sound like a person who has doubts about his closest political ally and his deal with him.


How shall we interpret this? For, there are two Jagmeets. Which Jagmeet is at play here?

Twitter Jagmeet is angry Jagmeet. Twitter Jagmeet is as a roaring lion, who rages daily about Liberal ineptitude, heartlessness towards Lunch Box Joe — an outdated NDP term, but let that pass — and scorns Justin Trudeau for his amity toward billionaires and his responsibility for such massive government flops as the infamous Pearson airport and overnight lineups of citizens outside passport offices. The former is a hill of luggage and the latter a national disgrace.

There is another Jagmeet, who may be described as the prime minister’s political fortress of solitude.

This is protector of the reign Jagmeet. Buttress, bulwark and personal breakwater Jagmeet, protecting Justin from what our friend Hamlet in a famous talk referred to as a “sea of troubles.”

For Trudeau surely has his troubles these days, and an ocean of them.



Now so familiar as to constitute a litany in the general mind: cosmetic racism in his younger days; those cringe-summoning days in India that mutated a state visit into a Bollywood comedy; photo-opping via the government jet; turbulence over government interference with prosecutions against a Quebec company, SNC-Lavalin, and with the RCMP’s investigation into Nova Scotia’s horrific mass murder; the close embrace of he and his near-whole family with the WE evangelists; and, of course, his wild and inexplicable fidelity to catastrophic environmental alarmism, on the altar of which he has offered up as expiatory sacrifices Canada’s oil industry, and latterly — this is or should by any measure be a deep national shame — its agricultural industry, its farmers, men and women who provide “the bread of life” not only to Canadians, but to the less happy and dependant hungry of this whole wide world.

Have I mentioned the calling down of the Emergencies Act, that great hammer on the civil rights of all Canadians?

No I have not. For which, much shame should fall upon me. The invocation of this invasion of every citizen’s right to protest, its dark reach into the bank accounts of Canadian citizens, and the unspeakable successive prosecutorial assaults on Freedom Convoy organizer Tamara Lich throw a grim, deep shadow on Canada’s democracy.

The inquiry into the Liberal government’s “justification” for invoking the Emergencies Act is in the usual sludge and mud and delay launched by this delinquent administration. Parliament is now conveniently in recess, due only to return in a hybrid version utilizing Zoom. The Emergencies Act inquiry, whatever its meagre chances for real revelation, is the most important ever to be instituted. Yet, the calling down of the full powers of the state, which showed the protections of the fabled Charter of Rights and Freedoms to be of tissue strength and useless in the very moment when they are and were most needed, barely stirs whispers in the popular press. New scandals eclipse the older ones.

So yes, Trudeau needs “I am Justin’s parliamentary bodyguard” Singh, but Singh is making rumbling noises. Because he has finally heard that his bonding with the Liberal government is hurting, if not nullifying, the NDP as an independent, critical and overseeing force in the House of Commons. Perhaps some in Singh’s own caucus, usually so vibrant on Twitter and in press releases, are viewing the “deal” — I prefer to call it “the coalition” — as stripping the entire NDP of its once so swaddled reputation as the “conscience of the House of Commons.”

Hence we are now hearing that Trudeau must “perform” on his promises of a dental-care program and whatever else Singh threw into the pot when he joined perfect hands with the government he was elected to oppose. Singh is one with the carbon tax. He is one with the torment just thrown at Canadian farmers. He does not push for answers from the inquiry into the Emergencies Act. He asks no questions that will really hurt.

Thus, Singh is eviscerating his own party as a respectable force in Canadian politics. The rumblings I referred to at the top of this piece are the result — I presume — of the few alert members of the NDP caucus who recognize that the leader of their party may also be its destroyer.

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Here's what Professor Tom thought about the NDP-Liberal deal.

"Tom Mulcair: Trudeau's deal with NDP is quite the coup

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/tom-mul ... -1.5829729"
Justin Trudeau has just pulled off the type of move that has kept his Liberals in power for most of confederation. After voters handed Trudeau his second minority, Jagmeet Singh’s NDP has offered to effectively give him a majority up until the next scheduled election, in 2025.

Quite a coup.

The average Canadian, who is not an ardent Conservative partisan, probably breathed a sigh of relief. We’ve had two federal general elections in two years and, let’s face it, minority governments are part of the new normal. In the past, minorities were the exception as Canadians swept alternate majority Conservative and (mostly) Liberal governments to power.

. . .

The important question is: who got what and in exchange for what?

On the Liberal side, the answer is easy. They get a full mandate and control 100% of government with less than ⅓ of Canadians’ votes.

For the NDP, they get a couple of concrete things they’ll be able to point to at the next election like dental care for kids (promised for this year) and anti-scab legislation in federally-regulated industries. That last one is huge from a labour point of view. Trudeau somehow forgot to mention it during his news conference. . . .
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Rat Fink 318 wrote: Aug 11th, 2022, 3:58 pm Here's what Professor Tom thought about the NDP-Liberal deal.

"Tom Mulcair: Trudeau's deal with NDP is quite the coup
Yes, good point Tom. It was quite a coup to keep a really really :cuss: government in power, but simply walking over and doing a deal with even more :cuss: people in the NDP. It definitely was the only way incredibly mediocre and stupid people were going to be able to cling to power.
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So, the unholy alliance betwixt Sell-out and JT is unravelling. Is this a surprise to anyone?

Strange, as both seem intent on destroying Canada, dividing us and putting us further into historically high indebtedness.

What we are seeing are mongrels fighting over which one plants the axe to Canada’s heart.

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Anyone who thinks for a second that the CPC wouldn't have swung the same deal if they were in a similar situation is living in a dream world. Lucky for Canada that the CPC doesn't have many friends.
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The ‘friendship’ you applaud between two rattlers is unravelling.

Seems neither can be trusted, and nor should they be.

I hope they fang each other unto death.
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They'll team up when they have common goals. Jagmeet will keep criticizing the Liberals to suck up to those in his party who feel betrayed. It's all politics, truth is elusive.
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Fluffy…Truth was a victim of this rotten government a long time ago.

It’s buried in the back 40.
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Catsumi wrote: Aug 11th, 2022, 8:06 pm Fluffy…Truth was a victim of this rotten government a long time ago.

It’s buried in the back 40.
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fluffy wrote: Aug 11th, 2022, 7:54 pm They'll team up when they have common goals. Jagmeet will keep criticizing the Liberals to suck up to those in his party who feel betrayed. It's all politics, truth is elusive.
Exactly... his criticizing is totally empty, since he is still protecting liberals from non-confidence vote in the House.
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Catsumi wrote: Aug 11th, 2022, 6:20 pm So, the unholy alliance betwixt Sell-out and JT is unravelling. Is this a surprise to anyone?
But we were all told that Singh was Trudeau's lapdog that did whatever he wanted and never goes against the Liberals. And now we're seeing that those were just more right wing lies. I guess die hard conservatives are just jealous that Singh and the NDP is proving to be such an effective opposition while the crumbling CPC eats itself.
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GordonH wrote: Aug 11th, 2022, 9:19 pmExactly... his criticizing is totally empty, since he is still protecting liberals from non-confidence vote in the House.
That protection will only last as long as there is some benefit to the NDP, like Liberal policies that fall in line with NDP goals. The dental plan is a good example. The Libs have been waffling on promises that have gone unfulfilled for years, like ending fossil fuel subsidies or a national child care program. If the Libs don't show some meaningful support on stuff like this the support of the NDP is at risk.
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