Freeland

[JLives]

Don’t care what your politics are. This is not acceptable and any normal conservative should be embarrassed by what happened in Alberta. We’re a civil country that respects democracy. And if you post in response in any way shape or form defending the actions of these two, maybe either study a little history or check out how much fun it is to live in a fascist country.

how are we a civil country, politicians forced untested covid vaccine on people , take it or lose your job, you call that civil,
they got everything coming to them-karma- like someone already asked, how do you know the guy was a conservative, i think he was a liberal that finally saw the light

None of this matters. How we engage with others matters. I'm certainly reconsidering my role in it right now and trying to make positive changes. I mean really recent. You'll see the results soon I'm sure. But I do think it matters. The politicians aren't the problem, we are.

[rustled]

How we engage with others matters. I'm certainly reconsidering my role in it right now and trying to make positive changes. I mean really recent. You'll see the results soon I'm sure. But I do think it matters. The politicians aren't the problem, we are.

[Mark5]

Both Trudeau and Freeland are destroying our economy and our culture. Health care in shambles, homelessnes, high fuel and food prices and rent. All so she and Trudeau can promote their leftist ideology and pay off their friends in the media and academia. She deserves no respect at all. I hope she is booed and yelled at wherever she goes. She deserves it.

[I_am_a_Liberal]

Freeland stared down trump. this guy would have been a cakewalk

[fluffy]

Somewhere along the way this sort of behavior has gained a level of acceptability among some that defies all norms of respect and social courtesy. "In-your-face" politics is seen as a legitimate tool of debate and it's a real threat to a properly functioning democracy. It was mentioned above that sooner or later, one of these nutballs is going to let his/her angry get away from them and somebody will get hurt. Well it already has, and it will again.

The Age of Ignorance
Why We Live in a Time When Ignorance Proudly Parades Itself as Enlightenment

"But the really strange, bizarre, and weird thing isn’t all that — ignorance has always been around, hasn’t it? It’s that today, ignorance is willful.Deliberate. Proud. Boastful, cocky, and exultant. Pompous, high-sounding, and aggrandizing. It waves banners and sings chants and discusses philosophies. Ignorance today thinks of itself as Aristotle by way of Descartes and Kant. The really strange thing about now is that ignorance parades itself as enlightenment."

https://eand.co/the-age-of-ignorance-cc59e8d08521

[Ka-El]

*removed*

[normaM]

Big man with a big mouth and small dick
Freeland could have taken him down :/
Great, now we the taxpayers can pay for her bodyguard

[Bsuds]

Great, now we the taxpayers can pay for her bodyguard

I suspect we already are.

[motokelowna1]

If they know who the Sasquatch is that can speak, cut the freeloaders benefits that it is on. Just give him a real reason to go back to the woods.

[rustled]

Both Trudeau and Freeland are destroying our economy and our culture. Health care in shambles, homelessnes, high fuel and food prices and rent. All so she and Trudeau can promote their leftist ideology and pay off their friends in the media and academia. She deserves no respect at all. I hope she is booed and yelled at wherever she goes. She deserves it.

I agree. However, the right not to respect someone who has earned our disrespect doesn't seem to me to automatically confer the right to behave disrespectfully toward them.

The electorate does have the right to raise our voices against a political elite that's dismissive and disdainful of ordinary Canadians' concerns. The choice to go from political protest to targeting an individual or a group of individuals in a threatening manner is just that, a choice - just as Freeland (and Trudeau) routinely make the choice to be dismissive and denigrating toward Canadians and our concerns. While their ugly choice to treat Canadians with disdain does create the urge to push back, how we push back does matter.

It seems to me we can understand the urge to push back, and support Canadians' right to raise our voices in pushback against a political elite that's disdainful of their electorate, without condoning the way those two chose to push back. How should Canadians raise their voices to be heard by this political elite? We cannot go to Ottawa and have our concerns heard respectfully. We cannot put a parade in a float without the full machinery of those working to censure critique of the current government springing into action. We cannot vote them out.

Freeland does not deserve to be made to feel her personal safety is threatened. Those whose livelihoods are threatened by her government's policy are becoming increasingly desperate to find a way to overcome the clamoring voices of those defending her government's actions "no matter what", and be heard. Both are true simultaneously.

Any government too elite, too smug, too disdainful to hear the concerns of its citizens is not a properly functioning democracy. It seems to me those helping an elitist, smug, disdainful government avoid the censure of the citizens harmed by its policies are doing ordinary Canadians no favours.

[liisgo]

The Age of Ignorance
Why We Live in a Time When Ignorance Proudly Parades Itself as Enlightenment

"But the really strange, bizarre, and weird thing isn’t all that — ignorance has always been around, hasn’t it? It’s that today, ignorance is willful.Deliberate. Proud. Boastful, cocky, and exultant. Pompous, high-sounding, and aggrandizing. It waves banners and sings chants and discusses philosophies. Ignorance today thinks of itself as Aristotle by way of Descartes and Kant. The really strange thing about now is that ignorance parades itself as enlightenment."

So, where and how did this new enlightenment come from? How did it get so engrained with in our societies so fast and so recently?

Does it not all stem with in new styles of politics' of today? The politicians are the biggest examples of using it.
Its become the new way of gaining support, attacking others, power.
People feel entitled, with support from their political leaders, to constantly attack others for a different choice, different beliefs, spelling mistakes.
Sad part is this, giving credit that everyone knows full well it exists, but its ignored if it supports ones own need and beliefs.
Maybe its a good thing its brought up here. Ignorance is being used for some peoples personal need to be some thing they aren't. To support their situation.
Its going to lead to a whole lot of resentment and a division among society. And now we are witnessing it.
Sad part is, far too many are actually enjoying the use of it.

[Gone_Fishin]

Did we have this kind of crap in our country, to this extent, pre-2015?

Sure, we had protesters of Harper, we had mouthpieces that got the Shawinigan Handshake from Chretien, but in all my many, many years on this planet I've never seen stuff like this. Leaders like Harper and Chretien managed to keep the country quite peaceful and quite livable.

What happened to get us here? Why have we ended up with this garbage in our once respectful country in the last 7 years?

[the truth]

Both Trudeau and Freeland are destroying our economy and our culture. Health care in shambles, homelessnes, high fuel and food prices and rent. All so she and Trudeau can promote their leftist ideology and pay off their friends in the media and academia. She deserves no respect at all. I hope she is booed and yelled at wherever she goes. She deserves it.

x2

[bob vernon]

Freeland and other Liberal politicians will have to get used to being under armed guards at all times when out in public, which conservatives have had to do for decades to protect themselves from the evil leftist hatemongers.

[the truth]

how are we a civil country, politicians forced untested covid vaccine on people , take it or lose your job, you call that civil,
they got everything coming to them-karma- like someone already asked, how do you know the guy was a conservative, i think he was a liberal that finally saw the light

None of this matters. How we engage with others matters. I'm certainly reconsidering my role in it right now and trying to make positive changes. I mean really recent. You'll see the results soon I'm sure. But I do think it matters. The politicians aren't the problem, we are.

your words- the politicians aren't the problem we are- how so, many people got fired people who did not get a vaccine, safe bet hundreds of thousands got the vaccine because they did not want to lose there jobs, the politicians are 100% the problem, they got everything coming to them-karma- is a *bleep*