The future of Alberta oil

[77TA]

I'm not scared.

[George Orwell 1984]

The people that agree with me prefer to have a reliable heat source , transportation and food on the table .
Funny how that works

[George Orwell 1984]

Just think of all the well paid jobs and resultant taxes that will stimulate the economy and put food on the table of Canadian households. I LOVE ALBERTA OIL

https://www.castanet.net/news/Business/ ... all#447927

[Jlabute]

I listened to her on a CBC Radio talk show yesterday, and she makes mildly convincing arguments in favor of growth in Alberta's oil & gas sector, but only convincing if you're willing to ignore the environmental downside. My question remains, is the risk to our collective future worth the short term profit ?

Everything has an 'environmental impact'. Solar panels and turbines also have an enormous environmental impact. Canadian O&G has LESS of an impact than that sourced from elsewhere. Demand for oil is still increasing and will for decades to come. It makes sense for the most responsible countries, like Canada, to have a larger slice of the pie. Canada would be vastly more prosperous and clean without the Liberals/NDP at the helm.

[Spiff]

I listened to her on a CBC Radio talk show yesterday, and she makes mildly convincing arguments in favor of growth in Alberta's oil & gas sector, but only convincing if you're willing to ignore the environmental downside. My question remains, is the risk to our collective future worth the short term profit ?

No.

All along that's simply been the 'Alberta Advantage.'

[steven lloyd]

Yes

There's a lot of people who agree with you, and that's kind of scary.

History has shown us that all great civilizations eventually come to an end, and it is probably worth noting that the one thing they have all had in common is a head in the sand, business as usual and nothing to see here attitude right up to the time of their demise. The costs of climate change are already here and they will bring down the western nation economies long before the actual change in climate does. Sadly, this is not the only threat we are ignoring and the impending collapse is going to occur on a global scale. In the game of monopoly there is only one winner but in the game underway no one is going to win. May as well retire on a beach.

[Spiff]

There's a lot of people who agree with you, and that's kind of scary.

History has shown us that all great civilizations eventually come to an end, and it is probably worth noting that the one thing they have all had in common is a head in the sand, business as usual and nothing to see here attitude right up to the time of their demise. The costs of climate change are already here and they will bring down the western nation economies long before the actual change in climate does. Sadly, this is not the only threat we are ignoring and the impending collapse is going to occur on a global scale. In the game of monopoly there is only one winner but in the game underway no one is going to win. May as well retire on a beach.

And apparently there's a process to help us with that.

https://phys.org/news/2011-03-cleanly-o ... ouled.html

[George Orwell 1984]

There's a lot of people who agree with you, and that's kind of scary.

History has shown us that all great civilizations eventually come to an end, and it is probably worth noting that the one thing they have all had in common is a head in the sand, business as usual and nothing to see here attitude right up to the time of their demise. The costs of climate change are already here and they will bring down the western nation economies long before the actual change in climate does. Sadly, this is not the only threat we are ignoring and the impending collapse is going to occur on a global scale. In the game of monopoly there is only one winner but in the game underway no one is going to win. May as well retire on a beach.

So why are you ignoring the threat of jt and jagmeet working hard to destroy Canada . Why is the liberal party not working to develop viable solutions rather than pie in the sky fairy tales while shipping millions of
Tons of coal daily to their favourite partners- China , that opens new coal fired plants twice weekly . Virtue signalling saves the world ……… right ? Only in a liberal mind !

[Spiff]

History has shown us that all great civilizations eventually come to an end, and it is probably worth noting that the one thing they have all had in common is a head in the sand, business as usual and nothing to see here attitude right up to the time of their demise. The costs of climate change are already here and they will bring down the western nation economies long before the actual change in climate does. Sadly, this is not the only threat we are ignoring and the impending collapse is going to occur on a global scale. In the game of monopoly there is only one winner but in the game underway no one is going to win. May as well retire on a beach.

So why are you ignoring the threat of jt and jagmeet working hard to destroy Canada . Why is the liberal party not working to develop viable solutions rather than pie in the sky fairy tales while shipping millions of
Tons of coal daily to their favourite partners- China , that opens new coal fired plants twice weekly . Virtue signalling saves the world ……… right ? Only in a liberal mind !

'Cause we're busy trying to complete the TMX.

[steven lloyd]

History has shown us that all great civilizations eventually come to an end, and it is probably worth noting that the one thing they have all had in common is a head in the sand, business as usual and nothing to see here attitude right up to the time of their demise. The costs of climate change are already here and they will bring down the western nation economies long before the actual change in climate does. Sadly, this is not the only threat we are ignoring and the impending collapse is going to occur on a global scale. In the game of monopoly there is only one winner but in the game underway no one is going to win. May as well retire on a beach.

So why are you ignoring the threat of jt and jagmeet working hard to destroy Canada .

Why are you making that assumption? Is this another deflection? As stated, we are faced with many threats. Jagmeet and JT's days are numbered but there is nothing waiting in the wings that is going to change the path we are on.

[George Orwell 1984]

It’s not an assumption, we see it every day . We see every well that jt and Jimmy dhaliwall touch has been poisoned . The last two weeks being prime examples . Do you ever stop and wonder why jt is laughed at ? Do you stop and wonder why he doesn’t have sit down meetings with other world leaders ? Climate change ? The world leaders nod their heads and carry on laughing. Don’t drink the koolaid !

[steven lloyd]

It’s not an assumption, ...

Actually, presuming I'm ignoring the threat (your statement) is, in fact exactly an assumption.

Do you ever stop and wonder why jt is laughed at ?

Nope.

Do you stop and wonder why he doesn’t have sit down meetings with other world leaders ?

Nope.

[fluffy]

The economy is a legitimate concern, but to put the short term health of that economy at odds with the long terms sustainability of a viable environment is the mistake we are making right now. We can already see the effects of climate change right here at home with drought and water shortages, not to mention extreme weather events. To suggest that these issues are not a result of fifty years of head-in-the-sand environmental policy is so far past stupid that the light from stupid won't get there for ten million years.

[steven lloyd]

The economy is a legitimate concern, but to put the short term health of that economy at odds with the long terms sustainability of a viable environment is the mistake we are making right now.

And a mistake I don't see us rectifying in any meaningful way before it is far too late. The costs of extreme weather events are already beyond what western nations can continue to pay and conservative neoliberal thinking can be counted on to fail even when provided with hindsight. The impacts of climate change are already posed to bankrupt countries and already unimaginable debt levels are going to grow exponentially. However, with growing social division and polarized politics, a growing income gap and growing global instability I don't think it will be the change in climate that destroys our civilizations. I'm just going to watch from a beach ...

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[Spiff]

Ft. MacMurray's favorite beach so they can retire with you.

Also, the beach where the less fortunate downstream can retire and go fishing.

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