The future of Alberta oil

[raft-cove]

The economy is a legitimate concern, but to put the short term health of that economy at odds with the long terms sustainability of a viable environment is the mistake we are making right now. We can already see the effects of climate change right here at home with drought and water shortages, not to mention extreme weather events. To suggest that these issues are not a result of fifty years of head-in-the-sand environmental policy is so far past stupid that the light from stupid won't get there for ten million years.

AGAIN

If Canada is 1.5% of Global Emissions, what difference can the country make ?


Let's do some math.

For fun because we are adults who can count and use a calculator.


Canada's Total Megatonnes of Carbon Dioxide Equivalent runs about 700 per year.

For arguments sake, Canada's entire Energy Sector was closed tomorrow.

Our energy sector accounts for approximately 200 Megatonnes of CO2eq per year.


By shuttering the entire Canadian Energy sector, Canada can reduce its emissions by 28.6%.

Sounds incredible.


Now, translate that back to a GLOBAL SCALE.

Knowing that Canada is responsible for 1.5% of GLOBAL emissions, by shuttering our Energy Sector we could reduce GLOBAL emissions by 0.4% to a total of 1.1%.


Say it with me: From 1.5% to 1.1%



Let me be clear, Mr Speaker.

The Liberal Klimate $cience Zealots wish to close down the energy sector in effort to reduce Global Emissions by 0.4%.

With that said, none of them have any idea what Canada would look like without its Energy Sector.


All the goods and services they have come to expect, make that demand, would suffer:
- Healthcare
- Education
- Pensions
- Govt

On top of that toxic cake, the country's trade balance would implode.

Canada's credit rating would be downgraded.

The $2.1 Trillion National Debt would become almost twice as expensive.

For those who don't care about Govt spending and the hole they've dug using Liberal $cience, the interest on debt is currently 10% of total tax collected.

Remove all Energy-associated tax payments and Canada suffers credit downgrade, you're then looking at 25-35% of all Canada's remaining tax going to the interest owed on National Debt.

Think about that for a moment. For every $3 of tax collected, $1 would be required to pay interest on National Debt. THINK about it.


Eventually Canada defaults on its payments to foreign bond owners.......

Canada becomes the next Venezuela.

We are on that path right now.


Liberal voters are no different than Will Ferrell playing with a tranq gun.

[ferri]

Western Canada seeks LNG, energy pledges in Liberals' Indo-Pacific strategy

The title says "Western Canada", but the rest of the article says "Alberta". For decades Alberta has placed all of its eggs in the energy basket despite steadily growing evidence in favour of backing down on fossil fuel production for energy. Will the ruling Liberals in Ottawa buckle under to efforts to increase oil output despite the need to reduce global emissions ? I fear this will be yet another instance of economic interests overruling environmental responsibility.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/41 ... c-strategy

[Spiff]

Western Canada seeks LNG, energy pledges in Liberals' Indo-Pacific strategy

The title says "Western Canada", but the rest of the article says "Alberta". For decades Alberta has placed all of its eggs in the energy basket despite steadily growing evidence in favour of backing down on fossil fuel production for energy. Will the ruling Liberals in Ottawa buckle under to efforts to increase oil output despite the need to reduce global emissions ? I fear this will be yet another instance of economic interests overruling environmental responsibility.

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada/41 ... c-strategy

Could this be a thwart Russia strategy?

[SAILINGONE]

Got it
The future of Alberta oil is fantastic, The Alberta Oil Industry has developed world recognised best practises in there oil development, production, refining & marketing all on its own and the cleanest fossil resource supplier

For shipment to markets however lpc/ndp governments in the past and now have put up massive roadblocks compliments of thousands of high paid progressive narrative scientists, climate warriors, bureaucrats from every conceivable department, armies of gatekeepers, the legal cronies, professional activist groups like antifa & greenpeace, but the biggest roadblock is the quebec laurentians, who want to have full control over all of Canada's energy, including the fossil resource. Something pet tried with the charter but was pushed back.

The new Alberta government is on track to upset that laurentian dream, just wishing that the spineless BC premier will do the same, but seeing he is another Klaus Schwab fan, that will likely not happen
Good on Saskatchewan and other provinces now following Alberta's lead and let Canada be the best source of ethical & cleanest fossil energy available that the world demands, except of course the quebec laurentian's

[Spiff]

Got it
The future of Alberta oil is fantastic, The Alberta Oil Industry has developed world recognised best practises in there oil development, production, refining & marketing all on its own and the cleanest fossil resource supplier

For shipment to markets however lpc/ndp governments in the past and now have put up massive roadblocks compliments of thousands of high paid progressive narrative scientists, climate warriors, bureaucrats from every conceivable department, armies of gatekeepers, the legal cronies, professional activist groups like antifa & greenpeace, but the biggest roadblock is the quebec laurentians, who want to have full control over all of Canada's energy, including the fossil resource. Something pet tried with the charter but was pushed back.

The new Alberta government is on track to upset that laurentian dream, just wishing that the spineless BC premier will do the same, but seeing he is another Klaus Schwab fan, that will likely not happen
Good on Saskatchewan and other provinces now following Alberta's lead and let Canada be the best source of ethical & cleanest fossil energy available that the world demands, except of course the quebec laurentian's

I see you might enjoy reading Ezra Levant's, Shakedown, Ethical Oil, The Case For Canada's Oilsands.

https://orl.bibliocommons.com/v2/record/S111C505441

Or maybe you've read it already.

I think it's his best work ever.

[SAILINGONE]

Got it
The future of Alberta oil is fantastic, The Alberta Oil Industry has developed world recognised best practises in there oil development, production, refining & marketing all on its own and the cleanest fossil resource supplier

For shipment to markets however lpc/ndp governments in the past and now have put up massive roadblocks compliments of thousands of high paid progressive narrative scientists, climate warriors, bureaucrats from every conceivable department, armies of gatekeepers, the legal cronies, professional activist groups like antifa & greenpeace, but the biggest roadblock is the quebec laurentians, who want to have full control over all of Canada's energy, including the fossil resource. Something pet tried with the charter but was pushed back.

The new Alberta government is on track to upset that laurentian dream, just wishing that the spineless BC premier will do the same, but seeing he is another Klaus Schwab fan, that will likely not happen
Good on Saskatchewan and other provinces now following Alberta's lead and let Canada be the best source of ethical & cleanest fossil energy available that the world demands, except of course the quebec laurentian's

I see you might enjoy reading Ezra Levant's, Shakedown, Ethical Oil, The Case For Canada's Oilsands.

https://orl.bibliocommons.com/v2/record/S111C505441

Or maybe you've read it already.

I think it's his best work ever.

Not much of a reader beyond a page, unless it's real or technical.
My technical ambitions resulted in visits to the "tar sand pits and dilbit" tanks and pipelines.
Knowing little about the process, other than sand and tar IN, bitum and clean sand OUT.
What came to mind in a few seconds, after witnessing the years it takes to clean up old gas station locations. these guys & gals up here in the oil sands, are doing the biggest environmental clean up job ever, removing the polluting tar and returning the once polluted soil, back to mother nature all cleaned up.
For that effort they get to process the polluting tar waste and due to continuous technology gains, they can recovery every last bit off it, for energy & industrial use.
That observation happened 20 years ago, they now call it ethical oil.
I hope my observation justifies ethical oil, until science, physics & engineering, with the help of a free market & investors money, can find a better way to dispose of that tar waste.
One of my visits to the tar sands, I witnessed a reclaimed area, seeing the new growth and wildlife flourishing on that clean new forest floor and no more tar leaching in to the Athabasca river, convinced me it was ethical.
There is a great future in Alberta oil and the always improving process of efficient waste recovery with new technological, will continuously improve, because the users demand supply security, a balanced environmentally, socially & economically responsible products that are very critical to an advancing world.

[fluffy]

If Canada is 1.5% of Global Emissions, what difference can the country make ?

Is that domestic emissions or are you counting downstream emissions as well, emissions produced by oil we export ? We are not without responsibility there.

In any even, I don't hold with the thought that "We're only a little part of the problems so we don't have to make much of a contribution to any solution." It's a global problem in need of a global solution, we all need to do what we can.

[Spiff]

I see you might enjoy reading Ezra Levant's, Shakedown, Ethical Oil, The Case For Canada's Oilsands.

https://orl.bibliocommons.com/v2/record/S111C505441

Or maybe you've read it already.

I think it's his best work ever.

Not much of a reader beyond a page, unless it's real or technical.
My technical ambitions resulted in visits to the "tar sand pits and dilbit" tanks and pipelines.
Knowing little about the process, other than sand and tar IN, bitum and clean sand OUT.
What came to mind in a few seconds, after witnessing the years it takes to clean up old gas station locations. these guys & gals up here in the oil sands, are doing the biggest environmental clean up job ever, removing the polluting tar and returning the once polluted soil, back to mother nature all cleaned up.
For that effort they get to process the polluting tar waste and due to continuous technology gains, they can recovery every last bit off it, for energy & industrial use.
That observation happened 20 years ago, they now call it ethical oil.
I hope my observation justifies ethical oil, until science, physics & engineering, with the help of a free market & investors money, can find a better way to dispose of that tar waste.
One of my visits to the tar sands, I witnessed a reclaimed area, seeing the new growth and wildlife flourishing on that clean new forest floor and no more tar leaching in to the Athabasca river, convinced me it was ethical.
There is a great future in Alberta oil and the always improving process of efficient waste recovery with new technological, will continuously improve, because the users demand supply security, a balanced environmentally, socially & economically responsible products that are very critical to an advancing world.

Twenty yeas ago I heard from her own lips, the wife of one of the vice presidents of one of the projects, say she thought the 'reclaimed' land should be turned into golf courses and spa resorts and the mountains of sulphur waste sculpted into sphinxes and pyramids for the tourists to admire. Now that's forward thinking from an entrepreneur

Boosters and hucksters abound around 'the sands'.

Did you get to see the bison?

[fluffy]

What came to mind in a few seconds, after witnessing the years it takes to clean up old gas station locations. these guys & gals up here in the oil sands, are doing the biggest environmental clean up job ever, removing the polluting tar and returning the once polluted soil, back to mother nature all cleaned up.

Certified "reclaimed land" areas such as Syncrude's Gateway Hill, now a diverse and thriving ecological showpiece, are indeed a sight to behold. In truth as of 2017, actual reclaimed land measured only seven percent of disturbed lands, and of that small portion only one square kilometer has been certified and returned to the province.

https://www.pembina.org/blog/fifty-year ... -reclaimed

[rustled]

What came to mind in a few seconds, after witnessing the years it takes to clean up old gas station locations. these guys & gals up here in the oil sands, are doing the biggest environmental clean up job ever, removing the polluting tar and returning the once polluted soil, back to mother nature all cleaned up.

Certified "reclaimed land" areas such as Syncrude's Gateway Hill, now a diverse and thriving ecological showpiece, are indeed a sight to behold. In truth as of 2017, actual reclaimed land measured only seven percent of disturbed lands, and of that small portion only one square kilometer has been certified and returned to the province.

https://www.pembina.org/blog/fifty-year ... -reclaimed

And every little bit helps, right? After all,

we all need to do what we can.

[Spiff]

Certified "reclaimed land" areas such as Syncrude's Gateway Hill, now a diverse and thriving ecological showpiece, are indeed a sight to behold. In truth as of 2017, actual reclaimed land measured only seven percent of disturbed lands, and of that small portion only one square kilometer has been certified and returned to the province.

https://www.pembina.org/blog/fifty-year ... -reclaimed

And every little bit helps, right? After all,

we all need to do what we can.

Mini golf based on a mine, sep plant, and pipeline! Yes! (fist pump)

[SAILINGONE]

Not much of a reader beyond a page, unless it's real or technical.
My technical ambitions resulted in visits to the "tar sand pits and dilbit" tanks and pipelines.
Knowing little about the process, other than sand and tar IN, bitum and clean sand OUT.
What came to mind in a few seconds, after witnessing the years it takes to clean up old gas station locations. these guys & gals up here in the oil sands, are doing the biggest environmental clean up job ever, removing the polluting tar and returning the once polluted soil, back to mother nature all cleaned up.
For that effort they get to process the polluting tar waste and due to continuous technology gains, they can recovery every last bit off it, for energy & industrial use.
That observation happened 20 years ago, they now call it ethical oil.
I hope my observation justifies ethical oil, until science, physics & engineering, with the help of a free market & investors money, can find a better way to dispose of that tar waste.
One of my visits to the tar sands, I witnessed a reclaimed area, seeing the new growth and wildlife flourishing on that clean new forest floor and no more tar leaching in to the Athabasca river, convinced me it was ethical.
There is a great future in Alberta oil and the always improving process of efficient waste recovery with new technological, will continuously improve, because the users demand supply security, a balanced environmentally, socially & economically responsible products that are very critical to an advancing world.

Twenty yeas ago I heard from her own lips, the wife of one of the vice presidents of one of the projects, say she thought the 'reclaimed' land should be turned into golf courses and spa resorts and the mountains of sulphur waste sculpted into sphinxes and pyramids for the tourists to admire. Now that's forward thinking from an entrepreneur

Boosters and hucksters abound around 'the sands'.

Did you get to see the bison?

Yes, still have some bison meat left in the freezer, the bison burgers made with ground beef, pork & bacon fat are awesome, all from Alberta, the other important industry in Alberta, along with agriculture & forestry
Your illustration, briefed to you by a friend of a friend, of golf courses, resorts, golden yellow pyramids & sphinxes on the reclaimed land being a draw for tourists, indicates to me that those visions are fictional from a person who's never been there. The tourist industry isn't expanding there beyond the odd radicalized entertainer trying to make headlines, seasonal hunters, ATVers, sledders or participants for the traditional northern games by the earlier settlers, however Alberta has world famous tourist attractions in Banff National park and you can visit Sulphur mountain their, but that one isn't yellow. The yellow mountains you speak about are used in fertilizer and have many industrial uses and even used in food as a preservative.
As demonstrated with my notes, Alberta has a great future again and not just oil, now that it is under leadership that Albertans & Canada deserve.
Not only "the four strong winds in Alberta" there are "The four strong industries in Alberta"
But It's not all rosy in Alberta, especially in their two biggest cities, run by woke mayors & council, who forgot where all their spending wealth comes from and who think to far outside the human box concerning bolt & nut issues and how they work, but disturbing too is the imported tribal conflicts playing out on the streets.
Just like justy says, we can do better and so can Alberta, once they take back all of the provincial controls from the feds, equal to quebec.

[fluffy]

And every little bit helps, right? After all,

Lame. The oilsands has been in production for over fifty years, and "leaving no tracks" was part of the original agreement that granted access to the resource. After more than ten billion barrels of oil have been extracted and profits now up in the tens of billions of dollars per year their track record on reclamation is miserable. Just miserable.

[rustled]

And every little bit helps, right? After all,

Lame. The oilsands has been in production for over fifty years, and "leaving no tracks" was part of the original agreement that granted access to the resource. After more than ten billion barrels of oil have been extracted and profits now up in the tens of billions of dollars per year their track record on reclamation is miserable. Just miserable.

Seeking out the miserable elements of Alberta's oil industry to fixate on can only lead to more agenda-driven misery for everyone.

[fluffy]

Seeking out the miserable elements of Alberta's oil industry to fixate on can only lead to more agenda-driven misery for everyone.

As does continuous deflection from fact.