Liberal's Climate $cience = FAILURE

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But, but, but...
Mike Campbell wrote:"For all you fanatics who think the climate is getting “hotter”, consider this chart of temperature going back 65 million years. We are now in the Pleistocene Ice Age, the coldest it has been in 250 million years. There was no ice in the Arctic until about 3 million years ago."
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Gone_Fishin wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 9:39 am But, but, but...
But, but, but

The planet is going to be just fine without us.

The issue isn't whether there have been harsher environments in the past, the issue is how we will manage the immigration nightmare once the presently warming earth makes it unbearable to live in the lower latitudes considering 40% of the world's population lives between the tropics.

Further exacerbating the problem is the prospect of sea levels rising up to 30m, considering 1 billion people live within 10m of sea level now.

Anyone here going to welcome these climate refugees with open arms?

Canada has plenty of unused space, they're all welcome here
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Salistala wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 9:28 am
harblz wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 7:24 am

Yes "both sidesing" it is certainly the best way: if 1,000,000 are convinced and 1 is not, then you must choose one of each and conduct a poll that shows 50% are unconvinced.
You can lead a person to knowledge, but you cannot make them think
Key word being 'lead'.

Some people will guzzle down whatever they are lead to, others make sure the water hole hasn't been poisoned before drinking.

That's the difference between thinking and just following.
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Salistala wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 9:58 am
Gone_Fishin wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 9:39 am But, but, but...
But, but, but

The planet is going to be just fine without us.

The issue isn't whether there have been harsher environments in the past, the issue is how we will manage the immigration nightmare once the presently warming earth makes it unbearable to live in the lower latitudes considering 40% of the world's population lives between the tropics.

Further exacerbating the problem is the prospect of sea levels rising up to 30m, considering 1 billion people live within 10m of sea level now.

Anyone here going to welcome these climate refugees with open arms?

Canada has plenty of unused space, they're all welcome here
How much will a complete halt to all of Canada's CO2 emissions affect global temperatures? That includes all vehicles, all industry, all natural resource extraction (coal, O&G, etc), and cow farts.

How much?

Just the number, please.
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The Green Barbarian wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 7:10 am
Salistala wrote: Jul 27th, 2023, 10:37 pm

So.prove it then, quote the science that definitely says ACC is a 'total fraud'
Prove that it isn't, while reaching for everyone's wallet. You can't. I'm not reaching for people's wallets, only the gullible fools who want to "believe" in this garbage are reaching for wallets, and deliberately causing human suffering because of it. Man-made climate change is a total fraud.
Your refusal to see the petroleum industry for their hands in your wallet is telling. The price of a barrel of crude went up 400% from 2016 ($30/barrel) to June 2022 ($120/barrel), but then it decreased to $80/barrel which is still +266% from 2016.

And they'll tell you it's for 'market reasons' when they control the market by manipulating production.

And the evil carbon tax? It's almost net zero to the consumers as 90% of the tax is rebated to tax payers
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77TA wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 10:18 am
Some people will guzzle down whatever they are lead to, others make sure the water hole hasn't been poisoned before drinking.
Yup, that's a profound statement right there
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Salistala wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 10:48 am And the evil carbon tax? It's almost net zero to the consumers as 90% of the tax is rebated to tax payers
That's false.

https://www.taxpayer.com/newsroom/carbo ... et-officer

The PBO has confirmed that the average family will be paying far, far more than the pitance (if any) dribbled back via rebates.

And that's not including the cost of carbon tax layered in every item we buy, including our food. The Bank of Canada has also admitted that carbon tax is fueling inflation.
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Salistala wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 10:51 am
77TA wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 10:18 am
Some people will guzzle down whatever they are lead to, others make sure the water hole hasn't been poisoned before drinking.
Yup, that's a profound statement right there
Not profound at all, but something most loyal followers of climate alarm never consider, they just guzzle and parrot.
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Salistala wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 10:48 am

Your refusal to see the petroleum industry for their hands in your wallet is telling.
Not really dude. They hands aren't in my wallet. Their wallets are stretched paying for all of the massive social welfare programs this country provides, something the Left in their zeal to kill them all is too dense to understand.
And the evil carbon tax? It's almost net zero to the consumers as 90% of the tax is rebated to tax payers
The evil idiotic Carbon tax is causing massive increases in prices and mass inflation. For what benefit to anyone? The benefit is ZERO - we could carbon tax 6,000% and it would have NO effect on this fairy tale you keep pumping about man-made climate change. Stop carrying water for the scum pushing taxes and inflation on poor people, it's disgusting.
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77TA wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 11:59 am
Salistala wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 11:50 am
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Planet climate been changing for billions of years, it gets extremely hot then it gets extremely cold and planets has an Ice Age then it goes into opposite direction.
Etc…etc… etc
It’s been going to and fro ice age for billions of years.

Land masses are constantly moving as well.
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GordonH wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 12:06 pm

Planet climate been changing for billions of years, it gets extremely hot then it gets extremely cold and planets has an Iceage then it goes into opposite direction.
Etc…etc… etc
It’s been going to and from iceage for billions of years.

Land masses are constantly moving as well.
Pffffft, sure sure, what next, you're going to tell me it's ROUND?!?
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Veovis wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 12:20 pm
GordonH wrote: Jul 28th, 2023, 12:06 pm

Planet climate been changing for billions of years, it gets extremely hot then it gets extremely cold and planets has an Iceage then it goes into opposite direction.
Etc…etc… etc
It’s been going to and from iceage for billions of years.

Land masses are constantly moving as well.
Pffffft, sure sure, what next, you're going to tell me it's ROUND?!?
That’s your choice, flat or round.
Clearly people don’t have a clue about history of this planet.
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