Liberal's Climate $cience = FAILURE

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Nedroj wrote: Sep 5th, 2023, 8:35 am
https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-s ... htm#444562

Gotta love the fear-mongering coming from this group.......
Recent Angus Reid polling (June 2023) indicates only 25% of Canadians see the environment and climate change as a top issue
That's because 75% of us see the real truth behind the false messages coming from the climate doom group.
:up: :up:

Top issue, like in the top 5 maybe. It is not THE top issue and like most countries, no citizen wants to be burdened by a Government solution to a fairy-tale problem.

The Kelowna Coalition IS partisan because only leftists believe in bad, bigger, dumber government and leftists are the majority of such movements. Severe effects of climate change? LOL. Don't know what the group is talking about. Heat domes? What is weather, sorry.

Their mission statement includes the following:
We wish to dispel the myth the nothing can be done about climate change and instead mobilize ordinary citizens so that they can have a measurable impact on climate change at the municipal level.
A measurable impact to global climate change affecting the municipal level??? LOL!!! There is no honest ability to measure or attribute this. It is no more than a feeling to these people. Weather has more an impact and no evidence suggest weather is affected by climate change. Certainly not as much impact as ocean currents and cloud cover.

The average US temperature anomaly shows no change. Once again, how is Kelowna weather obviously affected by climate change?
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There is NOTHING that Kelowna can do to make a measurable difference in the weather. If there is, tell me what change you'd make and the measurable difference you expect to see.

If you do not have a deterministic method with proven results, you are wasting public money.
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Another MEGA-Failure involving USA's Renewable Power ambitions:

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News ... Costs.html

You mean 30 GW of Wind Farming isn't profitable when interest rates normalize?

OOOOOOOOOOOPS!!

More Liberal $cience

Down the toilet.
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I pulled this story from the National post

A ship named the Climate Justice just loaded up with coal in Vancouver
The ship, flagged in Cyprus and owned by a Monaco-based firm, can carry between 30,000 and 40,000 tonnes of coal

Neptune terminals
The MV Climate Justice filled up at Neptune Terminals, pictured, a facility within sight of the Iron Workers Memorial Bridge that specializes in the export of coal from the B.C. Interior and potash from Saskatchewan.

A 200-metre-long bulk carrier just docked in Vancouver, filled up with coal, and is now headed back to Asia where the coal will be burned in steel plants.

That ship’s name? The MV Climate Justice.

Flagged in Cyprus and owned by the Monaco-based firm Safe Bulkers, the ship got its name because it’s reported to be cleaner-burning than its fellow bulk carriers.

But the MV Climate Justice does carry an awful lot of coal; between 30,000 and 40,000 tonnes. Once burned, that size of a load will produce between 60,000 and 80,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide — equivalent to about as much as the per-capita annual emissions of 5,000 Canadians.

The ship filled up at Neptune Terminals, a facility within sight of the Iron Workers Memorial Bridge that specializes in the export of coal from the B.C. Interior and potash from Saskatchewan. The presence of the oddly named coal carrier was noted by a fellow mariner and posted this week to the Facebook group BC Coastal Mariners.

Neptune shouldn’t be confused with Westshore Terminals, an even larger coal facility in Tsawwassen located within sight of the primary terminals for B.C. Ferries transiting the Strait of Georgia.

When the exports from both these facilities are added together, the Port of Vancouver ranks as the single largest coal port in North America. Although the exported coal is almost exclusively burned in Japan, Korea and China, its annual emissions easily dwarf the carbon footprint of the province that exported it.
*snip*

More here: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/sh ... %20Justice.
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In the name of all green gods , stop this insanity!! 30 miilion for four turbines . When it’s 40 below and zero wind what will these houses be heated with? Will the cost for the electricity be carried by the customers or will jt throw out “ free “ heat pumps to ease their pain. We all know they will have to go to use a heat source that is actually viable in the Arctic .

https://www.westernstandard.news/busine ... ines/50303
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CARBON EMISSIONS - Edmonton Sun - Mark Bonokoski

According to Canadian sources, Canada has 990 million acres of forests,

370 million acres of wetlands and

167 million acres of crop-yielding farmland.

These are known as "carbon sinks". I.e. :- they absorb carbon.

Biologists tell us that trees absorb about 2.6 tones of carbon per acre .

So if you do the math 990 million acres x 2.6 tones/acre=2.574 billion tones of carbon being absorbed every year here in Canada.

Now if you do more math: 36 trillion tones (amount of world emission x 0.0167 (1.67%)=601.2 million tones - this is the amount of carbon that Canada contributes to world emissions - in the forests alone, Canada absorbs almost 4 times the amount of carbon it emits.

AGAIN :-- In the forests alone, Canada absorbs 4 times the carbon it emits.

This means that the other three quarters of our forests are being sustained by carbon being emitted by the rest of the world.

This calculation does not take into account the wetland or farmland that also absorbs carbon.

Canada really couldn't get any greener, so why are our politicians hell bent on punishing us with these ridiculous carbon taxes?

If the media were honest, this information would be made public. SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC !

Considering the fact that Canada is given no credit for absorbing much more carbon than it emits I think there is a good case for some lawyer to charge governments with a "class action suit "

SEND THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW OR THINK YOU KNOW. THIS GOVERNMENT MONEY GRAB HAS TO STOP !!
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KenL wrote: Nov 24th, 2023, 8:13 am CARBON EMISSIONS - Edmonton Sun - Mark Bonokoski

According to Canadian sources, Canada has 990 million acres of forests,

370 million acres of wetlands and

167 million acres of crop-yielding farmland.

These are known as "carbon sinks". I.e. :- they absorb carbon.

Biologists tell us that trees absorb about 2.6 tones of carbon per acre .

So if you do the math 990 million acres x 2.6 tones/acre=2.574 billion tones of carbon being absorbed every year here in Canada.

Now if you do more math: 36 trillion tones (amount of world emission x 0.0167 (1.67%)=601.2 million tones - this is the amount of carbon that Canada contributes to world emissions - in the forests alone, Canada absorbs almost 4 times the amount of carbon it emits.

AGAIN :-- In the forests alone, Canada absorbs 4 times the carbon it emits.

This means that the other three quarters of our forests are being sustained by carbon being emitted by the rest of the world.

This calculation does not take into account the wetland or farmland that also absorbs carbon.

Canada really couldn't get any greener, so why are our politicians hell bent on punishing us with these ridiculous carbon taxes?

If the media were honest, this information would be made public. SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC !

Considering the fact that Canada is given no credit for absorbing much more carbon than it emits I think there is a good case for some lawyer to charge governments with a "class action suit "

SEND THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW OR THINK YOU KNOW. THIS GOVERNMENT MONEY GRAB HAS TO STOP !!
Thank you for sharing these hard facts and I agree, the lpc/ndp (tru-dough & singh) agenda has nothing to do with the environment and all to do with wanting power like his chinese dictator hero, to turn Canada into a marxist/postmodern obedient to the fourth reich wef regime where you own nothing and be happy.
The other character wants a free khalistan halfway around the world and he couldn't care less about Canadians, affordability, the environment or our wellbeing, he wants his own state.
Both are destroying Canada & Canadians for their own personal power trip of control, using a cult methods of fear, propaganda, brainwashing, identity politics, equality of outcome and multicultural/cancel culture (dei).
To bad the dumb, deaf & blind followers, warriors & activists don't see it or for those profiteering off this gig, want to understand or acknowledge the real facts and fearful of losing funding for the fake and narrative science & expertize by "intellectuals", loosing their 6 figure payroll position.
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Jlabute wrote: Aug 29th, 2023, 2:15 pm Appears as though forest fires for Canada from 2000 to now are on a downward trend.



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https://notrickszone.com/2023/08/27/can ... st-claims/
I think that the thing with 2023 is that it wasn't the number of fires, but the amount of land burned that was the story.

But agree that there's no reason to think the NUMBER of fires increases with climate change. The causes of fires are lightning and human activity. People smoke less, and there's no evidence of more lightning happening over time.
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fluffy wrote: Jul 15th, 2023, 7:14 am It's encouraging, in a twisted sort of way, that the man-made climate change deniers have shifted away from outright denial to pointing at countries that are worse offenders than Canada.
Thank for that great comment, I will inform the deniers that they are cornered and have no way out denying it any longer, so the eco crowd is happy that they can finally not only stop evolution, but reverse evolution.
That will make the deniers happy too, as the need for carbon tax no longer exists and with all that money saved can go to energise their ice's, just a win situation.
Yes the power is in the science and who pays for it, ops that 1/2 trillion green science investment in the last 8 years made it worse, what a waste, what a pity.
Bye bye lpc, ndp, Queb. & Gr. = failure
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Veovis wrote: Sep 5th, 2023, 10:16 am When I see these idiots, the only awareness I receive is the awareness they should be beaten until walking isn't an option anymore so others can be "aware" that this is the dumbest route they have followed yet.
It's a :cuss: painting.
You're saying beat someone until they can't walk to protect a :cuss: painting.

Because that's what's important
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